ALL methods to eliminate acne scarring and hyperpigmentation

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Today we will talk about all the methods to eliminate acne scarring, this shit is what is holding past acne-cels from the effects of either steroids or chad androgens in puberty with poor skin. Most of them are well tested, and i am personally planning at least 12 of the ones in here. with only a few making life changing results (procedures) when combined, over a long(er) period of time.

Introduction

What Are Acne Scars?


Acne scars are permanent changes in the skin that occur after severe acne lesions heal. They form when the skin’s natural healing process is disrupted, leading to excess or insufficient collagen formation.

Why Are Acne Scars Generated?

Acne scars develop due to damage in the deeper layers of the skin (dermis) during acne inflammation. Key factors include:
  1. Severe inflammation: Cystic or nodular acne is more likely to damage collagen.
  2. Delayed healing: Slow or impaired skin repair can lead to abnormal collagen formation
  3. Genetics: Some people are predisposed to keloid or hypertrophic scars because of subhuman genes, specifically:

    Collagen / Extracellular Matrix (delayed healing)

    • COL1A1
    • COL1A2
    • COL3A1
    • MMP1
    • MMP2
    • MMP3
    • MMP9
    • TIMP1 (Tissue inhibitor of metalloproteinases)
    • Immune Response genes
    • TNF-α (TNF gene)
    • IL1A
    • IL1B
    • IL6
    • TGF-β1 (TGFB1)
    • Hormonal / Androgen Pathway (jfl at dhtmaxxers) (me :feelswhy:)
    • AR
    • CYP17A1
    • SRD5A1 (5-alpha reductase type 1)
    • SRD5A2 (5-alpha reductase type 2)
    • Other
    • FGF2 (Fibroblast Growth Factor 2)
    • EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)
    • VEGF (Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor)
  4. Skin picking or squeezing: Its over for you, damages your skin barrier intensely (guilty of this)
  5. Infection or poor wound care: Can worsen the inflammatory response.


What Type of Acne Scars Do You Have?

Check with a mirror:
Iknowuwannagetout

(The hypertrophic ones are usually a bit less severe with less redness and seen more in the body/neck area where androgen sensitivity is a bit different than in the face)​

1. Depressed (Atrophic) Scars

  • Rolling scars: Wavy, shallow indentations caused by fibrous tissue pulling skin down.
  • Boxcar scars: Broad, sharply defined depressions with steep edges.
  • Icepick scars: Narrow, deep, pitted scars that extend into the dermis.

2. Raised Scars (Hypertrophic / Keloid)

  • Thickened or elevated scars caused by excess collagen formation.
  • Often occur on the chest, back, or jawline.

3. Post-Inflammatory Pigmentation (Fake scarring)

  • Dark red, brown, or purple marks left after acne heals.
  • Not true scars, but may persist for months and affect appearance.
Tip:
  • Depressed scars → indentations or pits.
  • Raised scars → thick bumps.
  • Pigmented scars →discolored patches.

Remember you need to first eliminate acne to start these procedures
Dogshit methods
- At home methods
- OTC masks
- DIY chemical peels at high concentrations
Water methods
Shouldn't even be mentioned if you're serious about having clear skin
TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotes
Retinoids (Tretinoin, Adapalene, Tazarotene, Trifarotene)Increase cell turnover, promote collagen★★☆☆☆Best for mild scars, long-term use required, if short term, dont cope about it and start the procedures in the lifefuel section)
Silicone gels/sheetsHydrate and flatten scars★★☆☆☆Works better for raised scars (hypertrophic/keloid (won't do much for keloids lol)
Vitamin C (topical)Brightens scars, promotes collagen★★☆☆☆Good for hyperpigmentation, not deep scars
Alpha Hydroxy Acids (AHAs)Exfoliate skin surface★★☆☆☆Improves texture slightly; best with other treatments, mandelic, lactic, or glycolic acid depending on skin type.
Chemical peels (mild at-home peels)Remove dead skin layers★★☆☆☆Over-the-counter peels have limited effect on deep scars
Not having any acneWater★★★★★Scarring WILL get worse if you haven't done a round of retinoids/accutane and eliminated acne entirely, and is a prerequirement to most treatments that are highly effective. Just for that reason 5/5
GHK-Cu (Copper Peptide) Injections Collagen stimulation by up to 25+%★★☆☆☆Just use with microneedling nigga, there is a possibility topical ghk-cu does work well in microneedling (mesotherapy) but just to be sure pin it.


Depressed (Atrophic) Scars


TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
SubcisionBreaks fibrotic bands under scar★★★★☆Excellent for rolling scars; often combined with fillers; procedure looks absolutely fucking atrocious and medieval torture-esque. (i wouldn't recommend fillers personally)Bruising, swelling, temporary soreness; rare hematoma or infection
Microneedling Alone (Water)Stimulates collagen production★★★★½Best for rolling and shallow boxcar scars, best done with PRP. DO NOT do standard microneedling with those shitty rollers, use medical grade stamps like they're like 50$ USD, cmon.Redness, mild swelling, PIH (post-inflammatory-hyperpigmentation) in darker skin; infection risk if not sterile
Microneedling + PRPEnhanced collagen stimulation and healing★★★★★Another holy grail. 4.8/10 but for some people its 5/5Mild redness/swelling, bruising, infection risk from blood prep
Dermal FillersFills depressed scars★★★★☆Immediate effect; temporary (6–18 months), will never recommend but its up to you.Lumpiness, Tyndall effect, rare infection or vascular occlusion
Punch Excision / Punch GraftSurgically removes icepick scars★★★★☆Best for deep, isolated icepick scarsScar at donor site, infection, downtime, potential PIH
Fractional CO2 LaserResurfaces skin, stimulates collagen★★★★★Very effective for rolling/boxcar scars; downtime 7–10 days, holy grail.Redness, swelling, crusting; PIH risk in darker skin; prolonged downtime
Erbium:YAG LaserMild resurfacing★★★☆☆Less downtime; less effective for deep scarsMild redness, swelling; lower PIH risk than CO2
Non-ablative Fractional Laser (Fraxel)Collagen remodeling without ablation★★★★☆Multiple sessions requiredMild redness, swelling; rare PIH; multiple sessions needed
Chemical Peels (TCA medium-depth, Jessner, Phenol)Remove epidermis & stimulate collagen★★★☆☆Effective for shallow/moderate scarsRedness, peeling, PIH, infection if post-care neglected
Fractional Pico (Picosecond Laser)Ultra-short pulses delivered fractionally → shatter pigment and stimulate collagen★★★★☆Minimal thermal damage; lower downtime; multiple sessions; good for rolling/boxcar scarsMild redness, swelling, bruising; rare PIH; multiple sessions required



Raised (Hypertrophic / Keloid) Scars


TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
Steroid Injections (Triamcinolone)Reduce collagen, flatten scars★★★★☆Mainstay for raised scars; may require multiple sessionsSkin atrophy, hypopigmentation, telangiectasia, pain at injection site
Silicone Sheets / GelsHydrate and flatten scars★★☆☆☆Useful for prevention and mild hypertrophic scarsMinimal; skin irritation rare; compliance needed
CryotherapyFreezes and flattens raised scars★★★☆☆Often combined with steroid injectionsPain, blistering, hypopigmentation, recurrence possible
Pulsed Dye Laser (PDL)Reduces redness, some remodeling★★★☆☆Works well for inflamed scarsMild redness/bruising, PIH rare, multiple sessions needed
Surgery / ExcisionDirect removal of keloid★★★★☆Reserved for severe or persistent casesRecurrence possible, infection, significant downtime, PIH
TGF-β1 / other fibrosis-modifying approachesExperimental / emerging★★★☆☆Not standard yetUnknown long-term risks; limited clinical data



Hyperpigmentation


TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
Topical Vitamin CAntioxidant, inhibits melanin formation★★☆☆☆Good for red/brown discoloration; mild effect; not structuralMild irritation, stinging, possible allergic reaction
Hydroquinone (2–4%)Inhibits melanin production★★★★☆Gold standard for PIH; use short-term (max 12 weeks) to avoid ochronosisIrritation, redness, ochronosis if prolonged use, sun sensitivity
Azelaic AcidInhibits tyrosinase, reduces inflammation★★★★☆Effective for darker skin; also helps mild acneMild irritation, dryness, rare redness
Niacinamide (Vitamin B3)Reduces melanin transfer to epidermis★★★☆☆Safe, mild lightening; often combined with other topicalsMinimal; well tolerated
Chemical Peels (superficial to medium)Exfoliate pigmented layers★★★★☆Multiple sessions improve color; works best on epidermal pigmentationRedness, peeling, PIH especially in darker skin; infection if post-care neglected
Laser (PDL, Q-switched Nd:YAG)Targets melanin or vascular components★★★★☆Effective for stubborn discoloration; multiple sessions; risk of rebound hyperpigmentation in darker skinRedness, swelling, PIH, rare blistering; multiple sessions required
MicrodermabrasionSurface exfoliation★★☆☆☆Superficial exfoliation; temporary effectMild redness, temporary dryness; very low risk
Combination Therapy (topical + peel/laser)Synergistic effect★★★★★Often most effective for persistent or mixed hyperpigmentationRisks combine based on components used; follow post-care strictly
Fractional Pico (Picosecond Laser)Targets pigment via ultra-short pulses, stimulates collagen★★★★☆Effective for red/brown PIH, melasma, and sun spots; low downtime; multiple sessions neededMild redness, swelling, bruising; rare PIH; multiple sessions needed

Others
TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
Triamcinolone Acetonide InjectionReduces collagen synthesis; flattens hypertrophic/keloid scars★★★★☆Most commonly used steroid; effective for large or thick scars; repeat every 4–6 weeksSkin atrophy, hypopigmentation, telangiectasia, pain/bruising; avoid injecting normal skin
Methylprednisolone Acetate InjectionReduces collagen synthesis; flattens hypertrophic/keloid scars★★★☆☆Slightly less potent than triamcinolone; sometimes used for smaller or facial scarsSkin thinning, hypopigmentation, pain; multiple sessions may be needed
Hydrocortisone InjectionReduces collagen synthesis; flattens mild hypertrophic scars★★☆☆☆Weakest intralesional steroid; mainly used for sensitive areasMinimal flattening; risk of atrophy is lower; repeat sessions may be needed
CryotherapyFreezes and flattens raised scars★★★☆☆Often combined with steroid injections; effective for small keloidsPain, blistering, hypopigmentation, recurrence possible
PRP AloneGrowth factors promote healing and collagen remodeling★★★★☆Can improve scar texture and pliability; often combined with microneedling or lasersMild redness, swelling, bruising; infection risk if blood handling is improper, though unlikely.

WARNING

Depressed Scar Treatments That Could Worsen Raised Scars


TreatmentHow It Can Worsen Raised ScarsRisk Level / Notes
SubcisionTrauma from breaking fibrotic bands can stimulate excess collagen, potentially triggering hypertrophic/keloid scars in predisposed skinModerate risk; avoid in areas prone to keloids without prophylactic measures (steroids, silicone)
Microneedling / Microneedling + PRPCreates controlled injury → collagen stimulation; in keloid-prone patients this can lead to scar thickeningLow–moderate risk; safer on normal skin; avoid deep microneedling over existing raised scars
Fractional CO2 / Erbium / Pico LasersThermal injury stimulates collagen remodeling; in hypertrophic-prone skin, can cause scar hypertrophy or PIHModerate risk in darker skin / keloid-prone individuals; start with lower settings or test patch
Punch Excision / Grafting (if done near hypertrophic areas)Surgical trauma can induce keloid formation at donor or adjacent sitesModerate; prophylactic steroid injection recommended
Deep Chemical Peels / Medium TCAInflammatory response can trigger keloid formation in predisposed skinLow–moderate; avoid aggressive peeling on keloid-prone areas

Raised Scar Treatments That Could Worsen Depressed Scars


TreatmentHow It Can Worsen Depressed ScarsRisk Level / Notes
Steroid Injections (Triamcinolone, Methylprednisolone, Hydrocortisone)Over-flattening or atrophy if injected too close to depressed scars can exacerbate contour irregularities, making adjacent depressed scars look deeperModerate risk; avoid injecting too close to areas with rolling or boxcar scars
CryotherapyFreezing adjacent skin can damage normal tissue, potentially creating new shallow depressions around the treated raised scarLow–moderate risk; careful shielding needed
Pulsed Dye Laser (PDL)Aggressive laser treatment to flatten red/keloid scars may cause localized tissue contraction, highlighting nearby depressed scarsLow risk; usually mild effect, more cosmetic than structural
Surgical Excision of Keloids / Hypertrophic ScarsRemoving a raised scar creates a tissue defect; tension or healing may cause adjacent depressed contour irregularitiesModerate risk; sometimes requires grafts or careful flap planning
Silicone Sheets / GelsRarely, over-compression on uneven skin may accentuate very shallow depressionsVery veery low risk; mostly cosmetic effect

An example of a protocol above for reducing scars with those considerations in mind


PhaseTargetTreatmentsInterval / DowntimeCombination Notes
Phase 1 – Raised Scar Control (Prevent worsening)Hypertrophic/Keloid scarsSteroid injections (Triamcinolone), Silicone sheets, Cryotherapy if you have moderate hypertrophicSteroids: every 4–6 weeks; silicone: daily, always.Avoid trauma-based depressed scar treatments directly over active raised scars until reduced
Phase 2 – Collagen Remodeling for Depressed ScarsRolling/Boxcar/IcepickSubcision, Microneedling + PRP, Fractional CO2 / Pico / Erbium laserSubcision: 1 session per scar or area; Microneedling: 4–6 weeks between sessions; Fractional lasers: 6–8 weeksDo not combine deep lasers and subcision on same day; microneedling has to combined with PRP in same session for max effect
Phase 3 – Volume Correction / Deep Depressed ScarsDeep boxcar or icepick scarsPunch excision / graftWait 1–2 weeks after Phase 2 for skin healingConsider fillers for areas where subcision + collagen remodeling is insufficient
Phase 4 – HyperpigmentationPIH, sun damage, red/brown marksHydroquinone, Azelaic acid, Niacinamide, Chemical peels (superficial/medium), Fractional Pico / Q-switched / PDL lasersChemical peels: 3–6 weeks apart; laser: every 4–6 weeks; topical: dailyAvoid combining medium-depth peels with lasers same week; stagger by 2–3 weeks; start topicals first if severe PIH
Phase 5 – Maintenance & PreventionAll scar typesSilicone sheets, Sun protection SPF 30+, Mild topicalsDailyMaintain improvements and prevent recurrence of raised scars or PIH

The most effective thing to do is obviously to COMBINE and tailor them with a licensed dermatologist, however if that is not the option, here's how to tailor your acne scar procedures and plan them accordingly

What Not to Combine

  • Aggressive lasers + deep subcision → high risk of bleeding, delayed healing. Just wait a bit brocel.
  • Multiple deep chemical peels + lasers same week → high PIH risk.
  • Steroid injections + laser on same scar same day → may impair healing or increase atrophy risk.
  • Microneedling + aggressive peels → irritation and PIH in darker skin types
  • If you're on roids depending on your skin thickness you may wanna avoid if too thick;
    • Microneedling or superficial lasers may be less effective; energy may not penetrate deep enough.
    • Aggressive subcision can be difficult because fibrotic bands are denser.
    • High-dose fractional CO2 or Erbium lasers may be needed, but risk of overheating tissue, prolonged swelling, or delayed healing is higher
  • If too thin:

    • Characteristics: Fragile dermis, less collagen, more prone to tearing, bruising, and atrophy.
    • Risks / Considerations:
      • Deep lasers, aggressive subcision, or strong chemical peels can tear or scar the skin, cause prolonged redness, or trigger atrophic areas.
      • Fillers or deep injections may be more likely to cause irregularities or Tyndall effect because skin doesn’t cushion them well.
      • Microneedling with long needles or repeated aggressive sessions may increase PIH risk or damage thin dermis.
    • Recommendation:
      • Use milder microneedling, superficial peels, and low-energy lasers.
      • Stagger sessions with longer healing intervals (6–8 weeks) to allow thin skin to recover.
      • Avoid combining multiple high-trauma procedures in a single session.

Spacing Guidelines

  • Microneedling / PRP: every 4–6 weeks.
  • Fractional CO2 laser: 6–8 weeks between sessions.
  • Steroid injections: 4–6 weeks apart.
  • Chemical peels: 3–6 weeks depending on depth.
  • Fillers: wait at least 1–2 weeks after resurfacing procedure
  • Wait at LEAST 3 months before starting procedures after accutane.

Conclusion:
If you're serious about deleting this subhuman trait from your skin you will need a lotta $$$ and planning along with some consultations with dermatologists to plan out your timelines to completely eliminate scarring. And ill be honest, you can only get 90% of the look your skin had before acne, unfortunately. There might always be a tiny bit of scarring there, but it is infinitely better than having 80% worse skin.

I am not a medical professional and all my postings, including comments or conversations are purely comedic and satire.
 
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Today we will talk about all the methods to eliminate acne scarring, this shit is what is holding past acne-cels from the effects of either steroids or chad androgens in puberty with poor skin. Most of them are well tested, and i am personally planning at least 12 of the ones in here. with only a few making life changing results (procedures) when combined, over a long(er) period of time.

Introduction

What Are Acne Scars?


Acne scars are permanent changes in the skin that occur after severe acne lesions heal. They form when the skin’s natural healing process is disrupted, leading to excess or insufficient collagen formation.

Why Are Acne Scars Generated?

Acne scars develop due to damage in the deeper layers of the skin (dermis) during acne inflammation. Key factors include:
  1. Severe inflammation: Cystic or nodular acne is more likely to damage collagen.
  2. Delayed healing: Slow or impaired skin repair can lead to abnormal collagen formation
  3. Genetics: Some people are predisposed to keloid or hypertrophic scars because of subhuman genes, specifically:

    Collagen / Extracellular Matrix (delayed healing)

    • COL1A1
    • COL1A2
    • COL3A1
    • MMP1
    • MMP2
    • MMP3
    • MMP9
    • TIMP1 (Tissue inhibitor of metalloproteinases)
    • Immune Response genes
    • TNF-α (TNF gene)
    • IL1A
    • IL1B
    • IL6
    • TGF-β1 (TGFB1)
    • Hormonal / Androgen Pathway (jfl at dhtmaxxers) (me :feelswhy:)
    • AR
    • CYP17A1
    • SRD5A1 (5-alpha reductase type 1)
    • SRD5A2 (5-alpha reductase type 2)
    • Other
    • FGF2 (Fibroblast Growth Factor 2)
    • EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)
    • VEGF (Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor)
  4. Skin picking or squeezing: Its over for you, damages your skin barrier intensely (guilty of this)
  5. Infection or poor wound care: Can worsen the inflammatory response.


What Type of Acne Scars Do You Have?

Check with a mirror:
View attachment 4134811

(The hypertrophic ones are usually a bit less severe with less redness and seen more in the body/neck area where androgen sensitivity is a bit different than in the face)​

1. Depressed (Atrophic) Scars

  • Rolling scars: Wavy, shallow indentations caused by fibrous tissue pulling skin down.
  • Boxcar scars: Broad, sharply defined depressions with steep edges.
  • Icepick scars: Narrow, deep, pitted scars that extend into the dermis.

2. Raised Scars (Hypertrophic / Keloid)

  • Thickened or elevated scars caused by excess collagen formation.
  • Often occur on the chest, back, or jawline.

3. Post-Inflammatory Pigmentation (Fake scarring)

  • Dark red, brown, or purple marks left after acne heals.
  • Not true scars, but may persist for months and affect appearance.
Tip:
  • Depressed scars → indentations or pits.
  • Raised scars → thick bumps.
  • Pigmented scars →discolored patches.

Remember you need to first eliminate acne to start these procedures
Dogshit methods
- At home methods
- OTC masks
- DIY chemical peels at high concentrations
Water methods
Shouldn't even be mentioned if you're serious about having clear skin
TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotes
Retinoids (Tretinoin, Adapalene, Tazarotene, Trifarotene)Increase cell turnover, promote collagen★★☆☆☆Best for mild scars, long-term use required, if short term, dont cope about it and start the procedures in the lifefuel section)
Silicone gels/sheetsHydrate and flatten scars★★☆☆☆Works better for raised scars (hypertrophic/keloid (won't do much for keloid's lol)
Vitamin C (topical)Brightens scars, promotes collagen★★☆☆☆Good for hyperpigmentation, not deep scars
Alpha Hydroxy Acids (AHAs)Exfoliate skin surface★★☆☆☆Improves texture slightly; best with other treatments, mandelic, lactic, or glycolic acid depending on skin type.
Chemical peels (mild at-home peels)Remove dead skin layers★★☆☆☆Over-the-counter peels have limited effect on deep scars
Not having any acneWater★★★★★Scarring WILL get worse if you haven't done a round of retinoids/accutane and eliminated acne entirely, and is a prerequirement to most treatments that are highly effective. Just for that reason 5/5
GHK-Cu (Copper Peptide) Injections Collagen stimulation by up to 25+%★★☆☆☆Just use with microneedling nigga, there is a possibility topical ghk-cu does work well in microneedling (mesotherapy) but just to be sure pin it.


Depressed (Atrophic) Scars


TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
SubcisionBreaks fibrotic bands under scar★★★★☆Excellent for rolling scars; often combined with fillers; procedure looks absolutely fucking atrocious and medieval torture-esque. (i wouldn't recommend fillers personally)Bruising, swelling, temporary soreness; rare hematoma or infection
Microneedling Alone (Water)Stimulates collagen production★★★★½Best for rolling and shallow boxcar scars, best done with PRP. DO NOT do standard microneedling with those shitty rollers, use medical grade stamps like they're like 50$ USD, cmon.Redness, mild swelling, PIH (post-inflammatory-hyperpigmentation) in darker skin; infection risk if not sterile
Microneedling + PRPEnhanced collagen stimulation and healing★★★★★Another holy grail. 4.8/10 but for some people its 5/5Mild redness/swelling, bruising, infection risk from blood prep
Dermal FillersFills depressed scars★★★★☆Immediate effect; temporary (6–18 months), will never recommend but its up to you.Lumpiness, Tyndall effect, rare infection or vascular occlusion
Punch Excision / Punch GraftSurgically removes icepick scars★★★★☆Best for deep, isolated icepick scarsScar at donor site, infection, downtime, potential PIH
Fractional CO2 LaserResurfaces skin, stimulates collagen★★★★★Very effective for rolling/boxcar scars; downtime 7–10 days, holy grail.Redness, swelling, crusting; PIH risk in darker skin; prolonged downtime
Erbium:YAG LaserMild resurfacing★★★☆☆Less downtime; less effective for deep scarsMild redness, swelling; lower PIH risk than CO2
Non-ablative Fractional Laser (Fraxel)Collagen remodeling without ablation★★★★☆Multiple sessions requiredMild redness, swelling; rare PIH; multiple sessions needed
Chemical Peels (TCA medium-depth, Jessner, Phenol)Remove epidermis & stimulate collagen★★★☆☆Effective for shallow/moderate scarsRedness, peeling, PIH, infection if post-care neglected
Fractional Pico (Picosecond Laser)Ultra-short pulses delivered fractionally → shatter pigment and stimulate collagen★★★★☆Minimal thermal damage; lower downtime; multiple sessions; good for rolling/boxcar scarsMild redness, swelling, bruising; rare PIH; multiple sessions required



Raised (Hypertrophic / Keloid) Scars


TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
Steroid Injections (Triamcinolone)Reduce collagen, flatten scars★★★★☆Mainstay for raised scars; may require multiple sessionsSkin atrophy, hypopigmentation, telangiectasia, pain at injection site
Silicone Sheets / GelsHydrate and flatten scars★★☆☆☆Useful for prevention and mild hypertrophic scarsMinimal; skin irritation rare; compliance needed
CryotherapyFreezes and flattens raised scars★★★☆☆Often combined with steroid injectionsPain, blistering, hypopigmentation, recurrence possible
Pulsed Dye Laser (PDL)Reduces redness, some remodeling★★★☆☆Works well for inflamed scarsMild redness/bruising, PIH rare, multiple sessions needed
Surgery / ExcisionDirect removal of keloid★★★★☆Reserved for severe or persistent casesRecurrence possible, infection, significant downtime, PIH
TGF-β1 / other fibrosis-modifying approachesExperimental / emerging★★★☆☆Not standard yetUnknown long-term risks; limited clinical data



Hyperpigmentation


TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
Topical Vitamin CAntioxidant, inhibits melanin formation★★☆☆☆Good for red/brown discoloration; mild effect; not structuralMild irritation, stinging, possible allergic reaction
Hydroquinone (2–4%)Inhibits melanin production★★★★☆Gold standard for PIH; use short-term (max 12 weeks) to avoid ochronosisIrritation, redness, ochronosis if prolonged use, sun sensitivity
Azelaic AcidInhibits tyrosinase, reduces inflammation★★★★☆Effective for darker skin; also helps mild acneMild irritation, dryness, rare redness
Niacinamide (Vitamin B3)Reduces melanin transfer to epidermis★★★☆☆Safe, mild lightening; often combined with other topicalsMinimal; well tolerated
Chemical Peels (superficial to medium)Exfoliate pigmented layers★★★★☆Multiple sessions improve color; works best on epidermal pigmentationRedness, peeling, PIH especially in darker skin; infection if post-care neglected
Laser (PDL, Q-switched Nd:YAG)Targets melanin or vascular components★★★★☆Effective for stubborn discoloration; multiple sessions; risk of rebound hyperpigmentation in darker skinRedness, swelling, PIH, rare blistering; multiple sessions required
MicrodermabrasionSurface exfoliation★★☆☆☆Superficial exfoliation; temporary effectMild redness, temporary dryness; very low risk
Combination Therapy (topical + peel/laser)Synergistic effect★★★★★Often most effective for persistent or mixed hyperpigmentationRisks combine based on components used; follow post-care strictly
Fractional Pico (Picosecond Laser)Targets pigment via ultra-short pulses, stimulates collagen★★★★☆Effective for red/brown PIH, melasma, and sun spots; low downtime; multiple sessions neededMild redness, swelling, bruising; rare PIH; multiple sessions needed

Others
TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
Triamcinolone Acetonide InjectionReduces collagen synthesis; flattens hypertrophic/keloid scars★★★★☆Most commonly used steroid; effective for large or thick scars; repeat every 4–6 weeksSkin atrophy, hypopigmentation, telangiectasia, pain/bruising; avoid injecting normal skin
Methylprednisolone Acetate InjectionReduces collagen synthesis; flattens hypertrophic/keloid scars★★★☆☆Slightly less potent than triamcinolone; sometimes used for smaller or facial scarsSkin thinning, hypopigmentation, pain; multiple sessions may be needed
Hydrocortisone InjectionReduces collagen synthesis; flattens mild hypertrophic scars★★☆☆☆Weakest intralesional steroid; mainly used for sensitive areasMinimal flattening; risk of atrophy is lower; repeat sessions may be needed
CryotherapyFreezes and flattens raised scars★★★☆☆Often combined with steroid injections; effective for small keloidsPain, blistering, hypopigmentation, recurrence possible
PRP AloneGrowth factors promote healing and collagen remodeling★★★★☆Can improve scar texture and pliability; often combined with microneedling or lasersMild redness, swelling, bruising; infection risk if blood handling is improper, though unlikely.

WARNING

Depressed Scar Treatments That Could Worsen Raised Scars


TreatmentHow It Can Worsen Raised ScarsRisk Level / Notes
SubcisionTrauma from breaking fibrotic bands can stimulate excess collagen, potentially triggering hypertrophic/keloid scars in predisposed skinModerate risk; avoid in areas prone to keloids without prophylactic measures (steroids, silicone)
Microneedling / Microneedling + PRPCreates controlled injury → collagen stimulation; in keloid-prone patients this can lead to scar thickeningLow–moderate risk; safer on normal skin; avoid deep microneedling over existing raised scars
Fractional CO2 / Erbium / Pico LasersThermal injury stimulates collagen remodeling; in hypertrophic-prone skin, can cause scar hypertrophy or PIHModerate risk in darker skin / keloid-prone individuals; start with lower settings or test patch
Punch Excision / Grafting (if done near hypertrophic areas)Surgical trauma can induce keloid formation at donor or adjacent sitesModerate; prophylactic steroid injection recommended
Deep Chemical Peels / Medium TCAInflammatory response can trigger keloid formation in predisposed skinLow–moderate; avoid aggressive peeling on keloid-prone areas


An example of a protocol above for reducing scars with those considerations in mind


PhaseTargetTreatmentsInterval / DowntimeCombination Notes
Phase 1 – Raised Scar Control (Prevent worsening)Hypertrophic/Keloid scarsSteroid injections (Triamcinolone), Silicone sheets, Cryotherapy if you have moderate hypertrophicSteroids: every 4–6 weeks; silicone: daily, always.Avoid trauma-based depressed scar treatments directly over active raised scars until reduced
Phase 2 – Collagen Remodeling for Depressed ScarsRolling/Boxcar/IcepickSubcision, Microneedling + PRP, Fractional CO2 / Pico / Erbium laserSubcision: 1 session per scar or area; Microneedling: 4–6 weeks between sessions; Fractional lasers: 6–8 weeksDo not combine deep lasers and subcision on same day; microneedling can be combined with PRP in same session
Phase 3 – Volume Correction / Deep Depressed ScarsDeep boxcar or icepick scarsPunch excision / graftWait 1–2 weeks after Phase 2 for skin healingConsider fillers for areas where subcision + collagen remodeling is insufficient
Phase 4 – HyperpigmentationPIH, sun damage, red/brown marksHydroquinone, Azelaic acid, Niacinamide, Chemical peels (superficial/medium), Fractional Pico / Q-switched / PDL lasersChemical peels: 3–6 weeks apart; laser: every 4–6 weeks; topical: dailyAvoid combining medium-depth peels with lasers same week; stagger by 2–3 weeks; start topicals first if severe PIH
Phase 5 – Maintenance & PreventionAll scar typesSilicone sheets, Sun protection SPF 30+, Mild topicalsDailyMaintain improvements and prevent recurrence of raised scars or PIH

The most effective thing to do is obviously to COMBINE and tailor them with a licensed dermatologist, however if that is not the option, here's how to tailor your acne scar procedures and plan them accordingly

What Not to Combine

  • Aggressive lasers + deep subcision → high risk of bleeding, delayed healing. Just wait a bit brocel.
  • Multiple deep chemical peels + lasers same week → high PIH risk.
  • Steroid injections + laser on same scar same day → may impair healing or increase atrophy risk.
  • Microneedling + aggressive peels → irritation and PIH in darker skin types
  • If you're on roids depending on your skin thickness you may wanna avoid if too thick;
    • Microneedling or superficial lasers may be less effective; energy may not penetrate deep enough.
    • Aggressive subcision can be difficult because fibrotic bands are denser.
    • High-dose fractional CO2 or Erbium lasers may be needed, but risk of overheating tissue, prolonged swelling, or delayed healing is higher
  • If Skin is Too Thin (Common post-Accutane)

    • Characteristics: Fragile dermis, less collagen, more prone to tearing, bruising, and atrophy.
    • Risks / Considerations:
      • Deep lasers, aggressive subcision, or strong chemical peels can tear or scar the skin, cause prolonged redness, or trigger atrophic areas.
      • Fillers or deep injections may be more likely to cause irregularities or Tyndall effect because skin doesn’t cushion them well.
      • Microneedling with long needles or repeated aggressive sessions may increase PIH risk or damage thin dermis.
    • Recommendation:
      • Use milder microneedling, superficial peels, and low-energy lasers.
      • Stagger sessions with longer healing intervals (6–8 weeks) to allow thin skin to recover.
      • Avoid combining multiple high-trauma procedures in a single session.

Spacing Guidelines

  • Microneedling / PRP: every 4–6 weeks.
  • Fractional CO2 laser: 6–8 weeks between sessions.
  • Steroid injections: 4–6 weeks apart.
  • Chemical peels: 3–6 weeks depending on depth.
  • Fillers: wait at least 1–2 weeks after resurfacing procedure
  • Wait at LEAST 3 months before starting procedures after accutane.

Conclusion:
If you're serious about deleting this subhuman trait from your skin you will need a lotta $$$ and planning along with some consultations with dermatologists to plan out your timelines to completely eliminate scarring. And ill be honest, you can only get 90% of the look your skin had before acne, unfortunately. There might always be a tiny bit of scarring there, but it is infinitely better than having 80% worse skin.

I am not a medical professional and all my postings, including comments or conversations are purely comedic and satire.
@Master didnt even read the thread but looks both worthy to me
 
lost 2 hrs of my life on making a skincare guide for an Estonian gay fashion forum its over:feelswah:
 
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skimmed over it, looks to be a good thread
good job OP, will read now
I'd recommend listing the score (ie: 4/5) rather than the stars, theyre a lil difficult to see
 
Looks good

Is this gpt? the formatting looks ai like but the writing looks human
 
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DNR but bookmarked, looks good OP
All the acnecels are having a feast with this one :feelskek:
 
Today we will talk about all the methods to eliminate acne scarring, this shit is what is holding past acne-cels from the effects of either steroids or chad androgens in puberty with poor skin. Most of them are well tested, and i am personally planning at least 12 of the ones in here. with only a few making life changing results (procedures) when combined, over a long(er) period of time.

Introduction

What Are Acne Scars?


Acne scars are permanent changes in the skin that occur after severe acne lesions heal. They form when the skin’s natural healing process is disrupted, leading to excess or insufficient collagen formation.

Why Are Acne Scars Generated?

Acne scars develop due to damage in the deeper layers of the skin (dermis) during acne inflammation. Key factors include:
  1. Severe inflammation: Cystic or nodular acne is more likely to damage collagen.
  2. Delayed healing: Slow or impaired skin repair can lead to abnormal collagen formation
  3. Genetics: Some people are predisposed to keloid or hypertrophic scars because of subhuman genes, specifically:

    Collagen / Extracellular Matrix (delayed healing)

    • COL1A1
    • COL1A2
    • COL3A1
    • MMP1
    • MMP2
    • MMP3
    • MMP9
    • TIMP1 (Tissue inhibitor of metalloproteinases)
    • Immune Response genes
    • TNF-α (TNF gene)
    • IL1A
    • IL1B
    • IL6
    • TGF-β1 (TGFB1)
    • Hormonal / Androgen Pathway (jfl at dhtmaxxers) (me :feelswhy:)
    • AR
    • CYP17A1
    • SRD5A1 (5-alpha reductase type 1)
    • SRD5A2 (5-alpha reductase type 2)
    • Other
    • FGF2 (Fibroblast Growth Factor 2)
    • EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)
    • VEGF (Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor)
  4. Skin picking or squeezing: Its over for you, damages your skin barrier intensely (guilty of this)
  5. Infection or poor wound care: Can worsen the inflammatory response.


What Type of Acne Scars Do You Have?

Check with a mirror:
View attachment 4134811

(The hypertrophic ones are usually a bit less severe with less redness and seen more in the body/neck area where androgen sensitivity is a bit different than in the face)​

1. Depressed (Atrophic) Scars

  • Rolling scars: Wavy, shallow indentations caused by fibrous tissue pulling skin down.
  • Boxcar scars: Broad, sharply defined depressions with steep edges.
  • Icepick scars: Narrow, deep, pitted scars that extend into the dermis.

2. Raised Scars (Hypertrophic / Keloid)

  • Thickened or elevated scars caused by excess collagen formation.
  • Often occur on the chest, back, or jawline.

3. Post-Inflammatory Pigmentation (Fake scarring)

  • Dark red, brown, or purple marks left after acne heals.
  • Not true scars, but may persist for months and affect appearance.
Tip:
  • Depressed scars → indentations or pits.
  • Raised scars → thick bumps.
  • Pigmented scars →discolored patches.

Remember you need to first eliminate acne to start these procedures
Dogshit methods
- At home methods
- OTC masks
- DIY chemical peels at high concentrations
Water methods
Shouldn't even be mentioned if you're serious about having clear skin
TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotes
Retinoids (Tretinoin, Adapalene, Tazarotene, Trifarotene)Increase cell turnover, promote collagen★★☆☆☆Best for mild scars, long-term use required, if short term, dont cope about it and start the procedures in the lifefuel section)
Silicone gels/sheetsHydrate and flatten scars★★☆☆☆Works better for raised scars (hypertrophic/keloid (won't do much for keloids lol)
Vitamin C (topical)Brightens scars, promotes collagen★★☆☆☆Good for hyperpigmentation, not deep scars
Alpha Hydroxy Acids (AHAs)Exfoliate skin surface★★☆☆☆Improves texture slightly; best with other treatments, mandelic, lactic, or glycolic acid depending on skin type.
Chemical peels (mild at-home peels)Remove dead skin layers★★☆☆☆Over-the-counter peels have limited effect on deep scars
Not having any acneWater★★★★★Scarring WILL get worse if you haven't done a round of retinoids/accutane and eliminated acne entirely, and is a prerequirement to most treatments that are highly effective. Just for that reason 5/5
GHK-Cu (Copper Peptide) Injections Collagen stimulation by up to 25+%★★☆☆☆Just use with microneedling nigga, there is a possibility topical ghk-cu does work well in microneedling (mesotherapy) but just to be sure pin it.


Depressed (Atrophic) Scars


TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
SubcisionBreaks fibrotic bands under scar★★★★☆Excellent for rolling scars; often combined with fillers; procedure looks absolutely fucking atrocious and medieval torture-esque. (i wouldn't recommend fillers personally)Bruising, swelling, temporary soreness; rare hematoma or infection
Microneedling Alone (Water)Stimulates collagen production★★★★½Best for rolling and shallow boxcar scars, best done with PRP. DO NOT do standard microneedling with those shitty rollers, use medical grade stamps like they're like 50$ USD, cmon.Redness, mild swelling, PIH (post-inflammatory-hyperpigmentation) in darker skin; infection risk if not sterile
Microneedling + PRPEnhanced collagen stimulation and healing★★★★★Another holy grail. 4.8/10 but for some people its 5/5Mild redness/swelling, bruising, infection risk from blood prep
Dermal FillersFills depressed scars★★★★☆Immediate effect; temporary (6–18 months), will never recommend but its up to you.Lumpiness, Tyndall effect, rare infection or vascular occlusion
Punch Excision / Punch GraftSurgically removes icepick scars★★★★☆Best for deep, isolated icepick scarsScar at donor site, infection, downtime, potential PIH
Fractional CO2 LaserResurfaces skin, stimulates collagen★★★★★Very effective for rolling/boxcar scars; downtime 7–10 days, holy grail.Redness, swelling, crusting; PIH risk in darker skin; prolonged downtime
Erbium:YAG LaserMild resurfacing★★★☆☆Less downtime; less effective for deep scarsMild redness, swelling; lower PIH risk than CO2
Non-ablative Fractional Laser (Fraxel)Collagen remodeling without ablation★★★★☆Multiple sessions requiredMild redness, swelling; rare PIH; multiple sessions needed
Chemical Peels (TCA medium-depth, Jessner, Phenol)Remove epidermis & stimulate collagen★★★☆☆Effective for shallow/moderate scarsRedness, peeling, PIH, infection if post-care neglected
Fractional Pico (Picosecond Laser)Ultra-short pulses delivered fractionally → shatter pigment and stimulate collagen★★★★☆Minimal thermal damage; lower downtime; multiple sessions; good for rolling/boxcar scarsMild redness, swelling, bruising; rare PIH; multiple sessions required



Raised (Hypertrophic / Keloid) Scars


TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
Steroid Injections (Triamcinolone)Reduce collagen, flatten scars★★★★☆Mainstay for raised scars; may require multiple sessionsSkin atrophy, hypopigmentation, telangiectasia, pain at injection site
Silicone Sheets / GelsHydrate and flatten scars★★☆☆☆Useful for prevention and mild hypertrophic scarsMinimal; skin irritation rare; compliance needed
CryotherapyFreezes and flattens raised scars★★★☆☆Often combined with steroid injectionsPain, blistering, hypopigmentation, recurrence possible
Pulsed Dye Laser (PDL)Reduces redness, some remodeling★★★☆☆Works well for inflamed scarsMild redness/bruising, PIH rare, multiple sessions needed
Surgery / ExcisionDirect removal of keloid★★★★☆Reserved for severe or persistent casesRecurrence possible, infection, significant downtime, PIH
TGF-β1 / other fibrosis-modifying approachesExperimental / emerging★★★☆☆Not standard yetUnknown long-term risks; limited clinical data



Hyperpigmentation


TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
Topical Vitamin CAntioxidant, inhibits melanin formation★★☆☆☆Good for red/brown discoloration; mild effect; not structuralMild irritation, stinging, possible allergic reaction
Hydroquinone (2–4%)Inhibits melanin production★★★★☆Gold standard for PIH; use short-term (max 12 weeks) to avoid ochronosisIrritation, redness, ochronosis if prolonged use, sun sensitivity
Azelaic AcidInhibits tyrosinase, reduces inflammation★★★★☆Effective for darker skin; also helps mild acneMild irritation, dryness, rare redness
Niacinamide (Vitamin B3)Reduces melanin transfer to epidermis★★★☆☆Safe, mild lightening; often combined with other topicalsMinimal; well tolerated
Chemical Peels (superficial to medium)Exfoliate pigmented layers★★★★☆Multiple sessions improve color; works best on epidermal pigmentationRedness, peeling, PIH especially in darker skin; infection if post-care neglected
Laser (PDL, Q-switched Nd:YAG)Targets melanin or vascular components★★★★☆Effective for stubborn discoloration; multiple sessions; risk of rebound hyperpigmentation in darker skinRedness, swelling, PIH, rare blistering; multiple sessions required
MicrodermabrasionSurface exfoliation★★☆☆☆Superficial exfoliation; temporary effectMild redness, temporary dryness; very low risk
Combination Therapy (topical + peel/laser)Synergistic effect★★★★★Often most effective for persistent or mixed hyperpigmentationRisks combine based on components used; follow post-care strictly
Fractional Pico (Picosecond Laser)Targets pigment via ultra-short pulses, stimulates collagen★★★★☆Effective for red/brown PIH, melasma, and sun spots; low downtime; multiple sessions neededMild redness, swelling, bruising; rare PIH; multiple sessions needed

Others
TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
Triamcinolone Acetonide InjectionReduces collagen synthesis; flattens hypertrophic/keloid scars★★★★☆Most commonly used steroid; effective for large or thick scars; repeat every 4–6 weeksSkin atrophy, hypopigmentation, telangiectasia, pain/bruising; avoid injecting normal skin
Methylprednisolone Acetate InjectionReduces collagen synthesis; flattens hypertrophic/keloid scars★★★☆☆Slightly less potent than triamcinolone; sometimes used for smaller or facial scarsSkin thinning, hypopigmentation, pain; multiple sessions may be needed
Hydrocortisone InjectionReduces collagen synthesis; flattens mild hypertrophic scars★★☆☆☆Weakest intralesional steroid; mainly used for sensitive areasMinimal flattening; risk of atrophy is lower; repeat sessions may be needed
CryotherapyFreezes and flattens raised scars★★★☆☆Often combined with steroid injections; effective for small keloidsPain, blistering, hypopigmentation, recurrence possible
PRP AloneGrowth factors promote healing and collagen remodeling★★★★☆Can improve scar texture and pliability; often combined with microneedling or lasersMild redness, swelling, bruising; infection risk if blood handling is improper, though unlikely.

WARNING

Depressed Scar Treatments That Could Worsen Raised Scars


TreatmentHow It Can Worsen Raised ScarsRisk Level / Notes
SubcisionTrauma from breaking fibrotic bands can stimulate excess collagen, potentially triggering hypertrophic/keloid scars in predisposed skinModerate risk; avoid in areas prone to keloids without prophylactic measures (steroids, silicone)
Microneedling / Microneedling + PRPCreates controlled injury → collagen stimulation; in keloid-prone patients this can lead to scar thickeningLow–moderate risk; safer on normal skin; avoid deep microneedling over existing raised scars
Fractional CO2 / Erbium / Pico LasersThermal injury stimulates collagen remodeling; in hypertrophic-prone skin, can cause scar hypertrophy or PIHModerate risk in darker skin / keloid-prone individuals; start with lower settings or test patch
Punch Excision / Grafting (if done near hypertrophic areas)Surgical trauma can induce keloid formation at donor or adjacent sitesModerate; prophylactic steroid injection recommended
Deep Chemical Peels / Medium TCAInflammatory response can trigger keloid formation in predisposed skinLow–moderate; avoid aggressive peeling on keloid-prone areas

Raised Scar Treatments That Could Worsen Depressed Scars


TreatmentHow It Can Worsen Depressed ScarsRisk Level / Notes
Steroid Injections (Triamcinolone, Methylprednisolone, Hydrocortisone)Over-flattening or atrophy if injected too close to depressed scars can exacerbate contour irregularities, making adjacent depressed scars look deeperModerate risk; avoid injecting too close to areas with rolling or boxcar scars
CryotherapyFreezing adjacent skin can damage normal tissue, potentially creating new shallow depressions around the treated raised scarLow–moderate risk; careful shielding needed
Pulsed Dye Laser (PDL)Aggressive laser treatment to flatten red/keloid scars may cause localized tissue contraction, highlighting nearby depressed scarsLow risk; usually mild effect, more cosmetic than structural
Surgical Excision of Keloids / Hypertrophic ScarsRemoving a raised scar creates a tissue defect; tension or healing may cause adjacent depressed contour irregularitiesModerate risk; sometimes requires grafts or careful flap planning
Silicone Sheets / GelsRarely, over-compression on uneven skin may accentuate very shallow depressionsVery veery low risk; mostly cosmetic effect

An example of a protocol above for reducing scars with those considerations in mind


PhaseTargetTreatmentsInterval / DowntimeCombination Notes
Phase 1 – Raised Scar Control (Prevent worsening)Hypertrophic/Keloid scarsSteroid injections (Triamcinolone), Silicone sheets, Cryotherapy if you have moderate hypertrophicSteroids: every 4–6 weeks; silicone: daily, always.Avoid trauma-based depressed scar treatments directly over active raised scars until reduced
Phase 2 – Collagen Remodeling for Depressed ScarsRolling/Boxcar/IcepickSubcision, Microneedling + PRP, Fractional CO2 / Pico / Erbium laserSubcision: 1 session per scar or area; Microneedling: 4–6 weeks between sessions; Fractional lasers: 6–8 weeksDo not combine deep lasers and subcision on same day; microneedling has to combined with PRP in same session for max effect
Phase 3 – Volume Correction / Deep Depressed ScarsDeep boxcar or icepick scarsPunch excision / graftWait 1–2 weeks after Phase 2 for skin healingConsider fillers for areas where subcision + collagen remodeling is insufficient
Phase 4 – HyperpigmentationPIH, sun damage, red/brown marksHydroquinone, Azelaic acid, Niacinamide, Chemical peels (superficial/medium), Fractional Pico / Q-switched / PDL lasersChemical peels: 3–6 weeks apart; laser: every 4–6 weeks; topical: dailyAvoid combining medium-depth peels with lasers same week; stagger by 2–3 weeks; start topicals first if severe PIH
Phase 5 – Maintenance & PreventionAll scar typesSilicone sheets, Sun protection SPF 30+, Mild topicalsDailyMaintain improvements and prevent recurrence of raised scars or PIH

The most effective thing to do is obviously to COMBINE and tailor them with a licensed dermatologist, however if that is not the option, here's how to tailor your acne scar procedures and plan them accordingly

What Not to Combine

  • Aggressive lasers + deep subcision → high risk of bleeding, delayed healing. Just wait a bit brocel.
  • Multiple deep chemical peels + lasers same week → high PIH risk.
  • Steroid injections + laser on same scar same day → may impair healing or increase atrophy risk.
  • Microneedling + aggressive peels → irritation and PIH in darker skin types
  • If you're on roids depending on your skin thickness you may wanna avoid if too thick;
    • Microneedling or superficial lasers may be less effective; energy may not penetrate deep enough.
    • Aggressive subcision can be difficult because fibrotic bands are denser.
    • High-dose fractional CO2 or Erbium lasers may be needed, but risk of overheating tissue, prolonged swelling, or delayed healing is higher
  • If too thin:

    • Characteristics: Fragile dermis, less collagen, more prone to tearing, bruising, and atrophy.
    • Risks / Considerations:
      • Deep lasers, aggressive subcision, or strong chemical peels can tear or scar the skin, cause prolonged redness, or trigger atrophic areas.
      • Fillers or deep injections may be more likely to cause irregularities or Tyndall effect because skin doesn’t cushion them well.
      • Microneedling with long needles or repeated aggressive sessions may increase PIH risk or damage thin dermis.
    • Recommendation:
      • Use milder microneedling, superficial peels, and low-energy lasers.
      • Stagger sessions with longer healing intervals (6–8 weeks) to allow thin skin to recover.
      • Avoid combining multiple high-trauma procedures in a single session.

Spacing Guidelines

  • Microneedling / PRP: every 4–6 weeks.
  • Fractional CO2 laser: 6–8 weeks between sessions.
  • Steroid injections: 4–6 weeks apart.
  • Chemical peels: 3–6 weeks depending on depth.
  • Fillers: wait at least 1–2 weeks after resurfacing procedure
  • Wait at LEAST 3 months before starting procedures after accutane.

Conclusion:
If you're serious about deleting this subhuman trait from your skin you will need a lotta $$$ and planning along with some consultations with dermatologists to plan out your timelines to completely eliminate scarring. And ill be honest, you can only get 90% of the look your skin had before acne, unfortunately. There might always be a tiny bit of scarring there, but it is infinitely better than having 80% worse skin.

I am not a medical professional and all my postings, including comments or conversations are purely comedic and satire.
hello mane
i appreciate this thread u made

thank you, ur a good user
 
u forgot to mention tethered acne scars and non-tethered acne scars

tethered acne scars can be fixed with only subcision
but non-tethered ones can be fixed with microneedling, co2 laser etc.
 
Today we will talk about all the methods to eliminate acne scarring, this shit is what is holding past acne-cels from the effects of either steroids or chad androgens in puberty with poor skin. Most of them are well tested, and i am personally planning at least 12 of the ones in here. with only a few making life changing results (procedures) when combined, over a long(er) period of time.

Introduction

What Are Acne Scars?


Acne scars are permanent changes in the skin that occur after severe acne lesions heal. They form when the skin’s natural healing process is disrupted, leading to excess or insufficient collagen formation.

Why Are Acne Scars Generated?

Acne scars develop due to damage in the deeper layers of the skin (dermis) during acne inflammation. Key factors include:
  1. Severe inflammation: Cystic or nodular acne is more likely to damage collagen.
  2. Delayed healing: Slow or impaired skin repair can lead to abnormal collagen formation
  3. Genetics: Some people are predisposed to keloid or hypertrophic scars because of subhuman genes, specifically:

    Collagen / Extracellular Matrix (delayed healing)

    • COL1A1
    • COL1A2
    • COL3A1
    • MMP1
    • MMP2
    • MMP3
    • MMP9
    • TIMP1 (Tissue inhibitor of metalloproteinases)
    • Immune Response genes
    • TNF-α (TNF gene)
    • IL1A
    • IL1B
    • IL6
    • TGF-β1 (TGFB1)
    • Hormonal / Androgen Pathway (jfl at dhtmaxxers) (me :feelswhy:)
    • AR
    • CYP17A1
    • SRD5A1 (5-alpha reductase type 1)
    • SRD5A2 (5-alpha reductase type 2)
    • Other
    • FGF2 (Fibroblast Growth Factor 2)
    • EGF (Epidermal Growth Factor)
    • VEGF (Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor)
  4. Skin picking or squeezing: Its over for you, damages your skin barrier intensely (guilty of this)
  5. Infection or poor wound care: Can worsen the inflammatory response.


What Type of Acne Scars Do You Have?

Check with a mirror:
View attachment 4134811

(The hypertrophic ones are usually a bit less severe with less redness and seen more in the body/neck area where androgen sensitivity is a bit different than in the face)​

1. Depressed (Atrophic) Scars

  • Rolling scars: Wavy, shallow indentations caused by fibrous tissue pulling skin down.
  • Boxcar scars: Broad, sharply defined depressions with steep edges.
  • Icepick scars: Narrow, deep, pitted scars that extend into the dermis.

2. Raised Scars (Hypertrophic / Keloid)

  • Thickened or elevated scars caused by excess collagen formation.
  • Often occur on the chest, back, or jawline.

3. Post-Inflammatory Pigmentation (Fake scarring)

  • Dark red, brown, or purple marks left after acne heals.
  • Not true scars, but may persist for months and affect appearance.
Tip:
  • Depressed scars → indentations or pits.
  • Raised scars → thick bumps.
  • Pigmented scars →discolored patches.

Remember you need to first eliminate acne to start these procedures
Dogshit methods
- At home methods
- OTC masks
- DIY chemical peels at high concentrations
Water methods
Shouldn't even be mentioned if you're serious about having clear skin
TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotes
Retinoids (Tretinoin, Adapalene, Tazarotene, Trifarotene)Increase cell turnover, promote collagen★★☆☆☆Best for mild scars, long-term use required, if short term, dont cope about it and start the procedures in the lifefuel section)
Silicone gels/sheetsHydrate and flatten scars★★☆☆☆Works better for raised scars (hypertrophic/keloid (won't do much for keloids lol)
Vitamin C (topical)Brightens scars, promotes collagen★★☆☆☆Good for hyperpigmentation, not deep scars
Alpha Hydroxy Acids (AHAs)Exfoliate skin surface★★☆☆☆Improves texture slightly; best with other treatments, mandelic, lactic, or glycolic acid depending on skin type.
Chemical peels (mild at-home peels)Remove dead skin layers★★☆☆☆Over-the-counter peels have limited effect on deep scars
Not having any acneWater★★★★★Scarring WILL get worse if you haven't done a round of retinoids/accutane and eliminated acne entirely, and is a prerequirement to most treatments that are highly effective. Just for that reason 5/5
GHK-Cu (Copper Peptide) Injections Collagen stimulation by up to 25+%★★☆☆☆Just use with microneedling nigga, there is a possibility topical ghk-cu does work well in microneedling (mesotherapy) but just to be sure pin it.


Depressed (Atrophic) Scars


TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
SubcisionBreaks fibrotic bands under scar★★★★☆Excellent for rolling scars; often combined with fillers; procedure looks absolutely fucking atrocious and medieval torture-esque. (i wouldn't recommend fillers personally)Bruising, swelling, temporary soreness; rare hematoma or infection
Microneedling Alone (Water)Stimulates collagen production★★★★½Best for rolling and shallow boxcar scars, best done with PRP. DO NOT do standard microneedling with those shitty rollers, use medical grade stamps like they're like 50$ USD, cmon.Redness, mild swelling, PIH (post-inflammatory-hyperpigmentation) in darker skin; infection risk if not sterile
Microneedling + PRPEnhanced collagen stimulation and healing★★★★★Another holy grail. 4.8/10 but for some people its 5/5Mild redness/swelling, bruising, infection risk from blood prep
Dermal FillersFills depressed scars★★★★☆Immediate effect; temporary (6–18 months), will never recommend but its up to you.Lumpiness, Tyndall effect, rare infection or vascular occlusion
Punch Excision / Punch GraftSurgically removes icepick scars★★★★☆Best for deep, isolated icepick scarsScar at donor site, infection, downtime, potential PIH
Fractional CO2 LaserResurfaces skin, stimulates collagen★★★★★Very effective for rolling/boxcar scars; downtime 7–10 days, holy grail.Redness, swelling, crusting; PIH risk in darker skin; prolonged downtime
Erbium:YAG LaserMild resurfacing★★★☆☆Less downtime; less effective for deep scarsMild redness, swelling; lower PIH risk than CO2
Non-ablative Fractional Laser (Fraxel)Collagen remodeling without ablation★★★★☆Multiple sessions requiredMild redness, swelling; rare PIH; multiple sessions needed
Chemical Peels (TCA medium-depth, Jessner, Phenol)Remove epidermis & stimulate collagen★★★☆☆Effective for shallow/moderate scarsRedness, peeling, PIH, infection if post-care neglected
Fractional Pico (Picosecond Laser)Ultra-short pulses delivered fractionally → shatter pigment and stimulate collagen★★★★☆Minimal thermal damage; lower downtime; multiple sessions; good for rolling/boxcar scarsMild redness, swelling, bruising; rare PIH; multiple sessions required



Raised (Hypertrophic / Keloid) Scars


TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
Steroid Injections (Triamcinolone)Reduce collagen, flatten scars★★★★☆Mainstay for raised scars; may require multiple sessionsSkin atrophy, hypopigmentation, telangiectasia, pain at injection site
Silicone Sheets / GelsHydrate and flatten scars★★☆☆☆Useful for prevention and mild hypertrophic scarsMinimal; skin irritation rare; compliance needed
CryotherapyFreezes and flattens raised scars★★★☆☆Often combined with steroid injectionsPain, blistering, hypopigmentation, recurrence possible
Pulsed Dye Laser (PDL)Reduces redness, some remodeling★★★☆☆Works well for inflamed scarsMild redness/bruising, PIH rare, multiple sessions needed
Surgery / ExcisionDirect removal of keloid★★★★☆Reserved for severe or persistent casesRecurrence possible, infection, significant downtime, PIH
TGF-β1 / other fibrosis-modifying approachesExperimental / emerging★★★☆☆Not standard yetUnknown long-term risks; limited clinical data



Hyperpigmentation


TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
Topical Vitamin CAntioxidant, inhibits melanin formation★★☆☆☆Good for red/brown discoloration; mild effect; not structuralMild irritation, stinging, possible allergic reaction
Hydroquinone (2–4%)Inhibits melanin production★★★★☆Gold standard for PIH; use short-term (max 12 weeks) to avoid ochronosisIrritation, redness, ochronosis if prolonged use, sun sensitivity
Azelaic AcidInhibits tyrosinase, reduces inflammation★★★★☆Effective for darker skin; also helps mild acneMild irritation, dryness, rare redness
Niacinamide (Vitamin B3)Reduces melanin transfer to epidermis★★★☆☆Safe, mild lightening; often combined with other topicalsMinimal; well tolerated
Chemical Peels (superficial to medium)Exfoliate pigmented layers★★★★☆Multiple sessions improve color; works best on epidermal pigmentationRedness, peeling, PIH especially in darker skin; infection if post-care neglected
Laser (PDL, Q-switched Nd:YAG)Targets melanin or vascular components★★★★☆Effective for stubborn discoloration; multiple sessions; risk of rebound hyperpigmentation in darker skinRedness, swelling, PIH, rare blistering; multiple sessions required
MicrodermabrasionSurface exfoliation★★☆☆☆Superficial exfoliation; temporary effectMild redness, temporary dryness; very low risk
Combination Therapy (topical + peel/laser)Synergistic effect★★★★★Often most effective for persistent or mixed hyperpigmentationRisks combine based on components used; follow post-care strictly
Fractional Pico (Picosecond Laser)Targets pigment via ultra-short pulses, stimulates collagen★★★★☆Effective for red/brown PIH, melasma, and sun spots; low downtime; multiple sessions neededMild redness, swelling, bruising; rare PIH; multiple sessions needed

Others
TreatmentHow it WorksEffectivenessNotesRisk / Precautions
Triamcinolone Acetonide InjectionReduces collagen synthesis; flattens hypertrophic/keloid scars★★★★☆Most commonly used steroid; effective for large or thick scars; repeat every 4–6 weeksSkin atrophy, hypopigmentation, telangiectasia, pain/bruising; avoid injecting normal skin
Methylprednisolone Acetate InjectionReduces collagen synthesis; flattens hypertrophic/keloid scars★★★☆☆Slightly less potent than triamcinolone; sometimes used for smaller or facial scarsSkin thinning, hypopigmentation, pain; multiple sessions may be needed
Hydrocortisone InjectionReduces collagen synthesis; flattens mild hypertrophic scars★★☆☆☆Weakest intralesional steroid; mainly used for sensitive areasMinimal flattening; risk of atrophy is lower; repeat sessions may be needed
CryotherapyFreezes and flattens raised scars★★★☆☆Often combined with steroid injections; effective for small keloidsPain, blistering, hypopigmentation, recurrence possible
PRP AloneGrowth factors promote healing and collagen remodeling★★★★☆Can improve scar texture and pliability; often combined with microneedling or lasersMild redness, swelling, bruising; infection risk if blood handling is improper, though unlikely.

WARNING

Depressed Scar Treatments That Could Worsen Raised Scars


TreatmentHow It Can Worsen Raised ScarsRisk Level / Notes
SubcisionTrauma from breaking fibrotic bands can stimulate excess collagen, potentially triggering hypertrophic/keloid scars in predisposed skinModerate risk; avoid in areas prone to keloids without prophylactic measures (steroids, silicone)
Microneedling / Microneedling + PRPCreates controlled injury → collagen stimulation; in keloid-prone patients this can lead to scar thickeningLow–moderate risk; safer on normal skin; avoid deep microneedling over existing raised scars
Fractional CO2 / Erbium / Pico LasersThermal injury stimulates collagen remodeling; in hypertrophic-prone skin, can cause scar hypertrophy or PIHModerate risk in darker skin / keloid-prone individuals; start with lower settings or test patch
Punch Excision / Grafting (if done near hypertrophic areas)Surgical trauma can induce keloid formation at donor or adjacent sitesModerate; prophylactic steroid injection recommended
Deep Chemical Peels / Medium TCAInflammatory response can trigger keloid formation in predisposed skinLow–moderate; avoid aggressive peeling on keloid-prone areas

Raised Scar Treatments That Could Worsen Depressed Scars


TreatmentHow It Can Worsen Depressed ScarsRisk Level / Notes
Steroid Injections (Triamcinolone, Methylprednisolone, Hydrocortisone)Over-flattening or atrophy if injected too close to depressed scars can exacerbate contour irregularities, making adjacent depressed scars look deeperModerate risk; avoid injecting too close to areas with rolling or boxcar scars
CryotherapyFreezing adjacent skin can damage normal tissue, potentially creating new shallow depressions around the treated raised scarLow–moderate risk; careful shielding needed
Pulsed Dye Laser (PDL)Aggressive laser treatment to flatten red/keloid scars may cause localized tissue contraction, highlighting nearby depressed scarsLow risk; usually mild effect, more cosmetic than structural
Surgical Excision of Keloids / Hypertrophic ScarsRemoving a raised scar creates a tissue defect; tension or healing may cause adjacent depressed contour irregularitiesModerate risk; sometimes requires grafts or careful flap planning
Silicone Sheets / GelsRarely, over-compression on uneven skin may accentuate very shallow depressionsVery veery low risk; mostly cosmetic effect

An example of a protocol above for reducing scars with those considerations in mind


PhaseTargetTreatmentsInterval / DowntimeCombination Notes
Phase 1 – Raised Scar Control (Prevent worsening)Hypertrophic/Keloid scarsSteroid injections (Triamcinolone), Silicone sheets, Cryotherapy if you have moderate hypertrophicSteroids: every 4–6 weeks; silicone: daily, always.Avoid trauma-based depressed scar treatments directly over active raised scars until reduced
Phase 2 – Collagen Remodeling for Depressed ScarsRolling/Boxcar/IcepickSubcision, Microneedling + PRP, Fractional CO2 / Pico / Erbium laserSubcision: 1 session per scar or area; Microneedling: 4–6 weeks between sessions; Fractional lasers: 6–8 weeksDo not combine deep lasers and subcision on same day; microneedling has to combined with PRP in same session for max effect
Phase 3 – Volume Correction / Deep Depressed ScarsDeep boxcar or icepick scarsPunch excision / graftWait 1–2 weeks after Phase 2 for skin healingConsider fillers for areas where subcision + collagen remodeling is insufficient
Phase 4 – HyperpigmentationPIH, sun damage, red/brown marksHydroquinone, Azelaic acid, Niacinamide, Chemical peels (superficial/medium), Fractional Pico / Q-switched / PDL lasersChemical peels: 3–6 weeks apart; laser: every 4–6 weeks; topical: dailyAvoid combining medium-depth peels with lasers same week; stagger by 2–3 weeks; start topicals first if severe PIH
Phase 5 – Maintenance & PreventionAll scar typesSilicone sheets, Sun protection SPF 30+, Mild topicalsDailyMaintain improvements and prevent recurrence of raised scars or PIH

The most effective thing to do is obviously to COMBINE and tailor them with a licensed dermatologist, however if that is not the option, here's how to tailor your acne scar procedures and plan them accordingly

What Not to Combine

  • Aggressive lasers + deep subcision → high risk of bleeding, delayed healing. Just wait a bit brocel.
  • Multiple deep chemical peels + lasers same week → high PIH risk.
  • Steroid injections + laser on same scar same day → may impair healing or increase atrophy risk.
  • Microneedling + aggressive peels → irritation and PIH in darker skin types
  • If you're on roids depending on your skin thickness you may wanna avoid if too thick;
    • Microneedling or superficial lasers may be less effective; energy may not penetrate deep enough.
    • Aggressive subcision can be difficult because fibrotic bands are denser.
    • High-dose fractional CO2 or Erbium lasers may be needed, but risk of overheating tissue, prolonged swelling, or delayed healing is higher
  • If too thin:

    • Characteristics: Fragile dermis, less collagen, more prone to tearing, bruising, and atrophy.
    • Risks / Considerations:
      • Deep lasers, aggressive subcision, or strong chemical peels can tear or scar the skin, cause prolonged redness, or trigger atrophic areas.
      • Fillers or deep injections may be more likely to cause irregularities or Tyndall effect because skin doesn’t cushion them well.
      • Microneedling with long needles or repeated aggressive sessions may increase PIH risk or damage thin dermis.
    • Recommendation:
      • Use milder microneedling, superficial peels, and low-energy lasers.
      • Stagger sessions with longer healing intervals (6–8 weeks) to allow thin skin to recover.
      • Avoid combining multiple high-trauma procedures in a single session.

Spacing Guidelines

  • Microneedling / PRP: every 4–6 weeks.
  • Fractional CO2 laser: 6–8 weeks between sessions.
  • Steroid injections: 4–6 weeks apart.
  • Chemical peels: 3–6 weeks depending on depth.
  • Fillers: wait at least 1–2 weeks after resurfacing procedure
  • Wait at LEAST 3 months before starting procedures after accutane.

Conclusion:
If you're serious about deleting this subhuman trait from your skin you will need a lotta $$$ and planning along with some consultations with dermatologists to plan out your timelines to completely eliminate scarring. And ill be honest, you can only get 90% of the look your skin had before acne, unfortunately. There might always be a tiny bit of scarring there, but it is infinitely better than having 80% worse skin.

I am not a medical professional and all my postings, including comments or conversations are purely comedic and satire.
if ur pigmentation is a result of inflammation just take aspirin everyday

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even if i get a spot that shit never turns cystic or disgusting it legit is super tiny and fides away wthout leaving a mark now.
 
u forgot to mention tethered acne scars and non-tethered acne scars

tethered acne scars can be fixed with only subcision
but non-tethered ones can be fixed with microneedling, co2 laser etc.
they normally get classified as sinking /boxcar scars
 
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if ur pigmentation is a result of inflammation just take aspirin everyday

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even if i get a spot that shit never turns cystic or disgusting it legit is super tiny and fides away wthout leaving a mark now.
im on mandelic + vitc + accutane 10 idk about aspirin but i dont get new hyperpigmentation, it is mostly a retinoid burn issue really.
 

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