Alt-left and Alt-right are actually the same movements

[disillusioned]

They just co-op different labels. The ideology is the same:

-Racial identitarianism
-Rejection of multiculturalism (alt-left concept of "cultural-appropriation" is by definition a rejection of multiculturalism)
-Rejection of free markets in favor of a collectivist method of organizing society
-General hatred towards other races
-Hate jews
-Hate liberals or basically just any ideology that that isn't totalitarianism.
-Are ok with using violence
-Are willing to discriminate based on race
-Advocate for race conflict
-Want to overthrow the elites and rebuild society

There is no such thing as the "Alt-left". So called alt-left movements are just alt-right movements for non-whites and have nothing in common with socialism/communism.

 

[Deleted member 1100]

Didn't read, they are all socialists. If you defend any form of government you're a socialist.

 

[disillusioned]

Didn't read, they are all socialists. If you defend any form of government you're a socialist.

I won't even bother giving any serious reply to this comment. Socialist theory is massively flawed but 90% of the time people say shit like this it's coming from 60 IQ Americans with barely surface level understanding of economic or social theory. Long story short the ideology of the alt-left doesn't have anything to do with the ideology of cold-war era socialism/communism and is almost a mirror image of the alt-right.

 

[Deleted member 1100]

I won't even bother giving any serious reply to this comment. Socialist theory is massively flawed but 90% of the time people say shit like this it's coming from 60 IQ Americans with barely surface level understanding of economic or social theory. Long story short the ideology of the alt-left doesn't have anything to do with the ideology of cold-war era socialism/communism and is almost a mirror image of the alt-right.

I'm not american
my IQ is well above 60

and from the libertarian (anarchocapitalist) perspective, any form of state is a form of socialism since it requires taxation, i.e, theft to be made. And I'm pretty sure I have more economic and social theory knowledge than 99% of this forum.

Democracy sucks btw

 

[KEy21]

That's why it's impossible to be perceived as non racist on both sides of the political spectrum, because people automatically associate you with the alt right if you're a conservative, and automatically associate you with and extreme leftist communist if you're a democrat.

There is no positive discussion or debate anymore in this country (US). It's whoever can get the most funding and do the most slander within the 3.5 year period leading up to the next election is the one who wins office. It's a rat race - and it reflects throughout the rest of the country and their daily habits.

Of course white supremacists are going to vote for Republicans. What is the alternative? Vote for a party where it's associated with hating white people and movements like Antifa? They have no choice. It doesn't inherently mean the right wing premise is to be racist. It just is the best alternative due to the hate on the other side.

 

[hebbewem]

What the fuck are the alt left

 

[disillusioned]

and from the libertarian (anarchocapitalist) perspective, any form of state is a form of socialism since it requires taxation, i.e, theft to be made.

The hilarious thing about the "taxes are theft" argument is that the entire premise of capitalism is that the people producing the labor value (the workers) are giving up all the surplus production over to the capitalist in exchange for getting only a small bit back in return. This makes the entire "taxes are theft" logic utter bullshit, because the capitalist is he himself a thief in the first place. The value of labor is objective regardless of how much or little it is "valued" on the market. If person A and B both work for 8 hours doing the exact same thing, then both have produced equal value, regardless of what their labor is "worth" as a result of different market conditions.

In fact, working isn't even technically even needed for the capitalist to make money. In theory he can just get rich collecting profits from stocks. This is 99% of the population doesn't take libertarians or the "taxes are theft" bullshit seriously. Even normies aren't retarded enough to believe this shit.

What the fuck are the alt left

Radical-left.

 

[Blackout.xl]

That's why it's impossible to be perceived as non racist on both sides of the political spectrum, because people automatically associate you with the alt right if you're a conservative, and automatically associate you with and extreme leftist communist if you're a democrat.

There is no positive discussion or debate anymore in this country (US). It's whoever can get the most funding and do the most slander within the 3.5 year period leading up to the next election is the one who wins office. It's a rat race - and it reflects throughout the rest of the country and their daily habits.

Of course white supremacists are going to vote for Republicans. What is the alternative? Vote for a party where it's associated with hating white people and movements like Antifa? They have no choice. It doesn't inherently mean the right wing premise is to be racist. It just is the best alternative due to the hate on the other side.

So you only comment now? After weeks? Wow

 

[Deleted member 1100]

The hilarious thing about the "taxes are theft" argument is that the entire premise of capitalism is that the people producing the labor value (the workers) are giving up all the surplus production over to the capitalist in exchange for getting only a small bit back in return. This makes the entire "taxes are theft" logic utter bullshit, because the capitalist is he himself a thief in the first place. The value of labor is objective regardless of how much or little it is "valued" on the market. If person A and B both work for 8 hours doing the exact same thing, then both have produced equal value, regardless of what their labor is "worth" as a result of different market conditions.

In fact, working isn't even technically even needed for the capitalist to make money. In theory he can just get rich collecting profits from stocks. This is 99% of the population doesn't take libertarians or the "taxes are theft" bullshit seriously. Even normies aren't retarded enough to believe this shit.


Radical-left.

I seriously not gonna enter on a argument about politicis on a looksmax forum, I don't even do this anymore on political groups.

But in short, you're wrong and you completely ignored two important things:

Private property
Contracts

 

[disillusioned]

Private property
Contracts

Neither of those things negate the above points I made.

 

[Tony]

 

[Deleted member 1100]

Neither of those things negate the above points I made.

They do.

Also, this phrase is incorrect:

"are giving up all the surplus production over to the capitalist in exchange for getting only a small bit back in return"

They aren't exchanging for getting a small bit back in return, when you say this it seems like they'll only get paid if the capitalist manages to profit, which is incorrect (although there are contracts that are like that), most labors get paid regardless, and if they don't because they company went broken they still have the right to receive for their work regardless of profit or not

 

[hebbewem]

They just co-op different labels. The ideology is the same:

-Racial identitarianism
-Rejection of multiculturalism (alt-left concept of "cultural-appropriation" is by definition a rejection of multiculturalism)
-Rejection of free markets in favor of a collectivist method of organizing society
-General hatred towards other races
-Hate jews
-Hate liberals or basically just any ideology that that isn't totalitarianism.
-Are ok with using violence
-Are willing to discriminate based on race
-Advocate for race conflict
-Want to overthrow the elites and rebuild society

There is no such thing as the "Alt-left". So called alt-left movements are just alt-right movements for non-whites and have nothing in common with socialism/communism.

You are talking about the far left . Because the alt left dont exist

1, the left belives race is social construct and they dont care about . But they think care about so they need to care .

2. The left are pro multicultarism. And cultural approation . Diversity is our greatest strengt came from the left.. and cultura apporation is is a culture taking on other culture without showing enough respect.

3. You are correct

4 .wheres eveidence they hate other races

5.They dont hate jews they jate israel because tvey think its a ethnostate

6. Leftist do hate librals but its because they think they will facist . And they the left is the free ideologi

7.you are correct

8.they are willing but they think they need to because some races less privleged then others . So they make people equal.

9.no they dont.

10. Yes you are correct

 

[Deleted member 685]

The fuck is alt left nigga?

 

[Deleted member 4209]

alt right is an astroturfed meme phrase Hillary used to box in all anti-immigration conservatives as "incel basement dwellers".

 

[Deleted member 209]

-advocate evolution

 

[PenileFacialSurgery]

Politics is major cope for pathetic boring unlikable Subhumans who have nothing to do with their life.

 

[Deleted member 4310]

Politics is major cope for pathetic boring unlikable Subhumans who have nothing to do with their life.

This tbh never met a Chad who knew anything about it