Alternative to TRT and Steroids

[good_king_alex]

I am looking to boost my test levels to the high-average range i.e. 800ng/dl +.

BUT i don't want to destroy by ability to create testosterone in the future, should I want/need to come off.

What are some alternatives to TRT/steroids that people have experience with and would recommend?

e.g. I have seen Clomiphene and Enclomiphene pop up.. anyone know anything about these/ had any experience with these?

Thanks

 

[austrianpsycho]

I am looking to boost my test levels to the high-average range i.e. 800ng/dl +.

BUT i don't want to destroy by ability to create testosterone in the future, should I want/need to come off.

What are some alternatives to TRT/steroids that people have experience with and would recommend?

e.g. I have seen Clomiphene and Enclomiphene pop up.. anyone know anything about these/ had any experience with these?

Thanks

look into best of the best
there are a lot of test maxxing threads in there

 

[theladarer2000]

Just take trt

 

[kushitemogger7]

I am looking to boost my test levels to the high-average range i.e. 800ng/dl +.

BUT i don't want to destroy by ability to create testosterone in the future, should I want/need to come off.

What are some alternatives to TRT/steroids that people have experience with and would recommend?

e.g. I have seen Clomiphene and Enclomiphene pop up.. anyone know anything about these/ had any experience with these?

Thanks

Go to botb thread also try looking into some old bodybuilding sub reddits and forums. Real ascension comes from your own research

 

[good_king_alex]

Just take trt

And absolutely DESTROY my own ability to produce tesotsertone without the help of a doctor...? no thanks

 

[theladarer2000]

And absolutely DESTROY my own ability to produce tesotsertone without the help of a doctor...? no thanks

Just cycle and pct

 

[theladarer2000]

And absolutely DESTROY my own ability to produce tesotsertone without the help of a doctor...? no thanks

What do you even want 800ngdl for

 

[KentDunhill]

Just cycle and pct

This.

 

[good_king_alex]

What do you even want 800ngdl for

My primary motivation is the energy and motivation. The gains would be nice also. What do you run, if anything?

 

[ketamin]

I am looking to boost my test levels to the high-average range i.e. 800ng/dl +.

BUT i don't want to destroy by ability to create testosterone in the future, should I want/need to come off.

What are some alternatives to TRT/steroids that people have experience with and would recommend?

e.g. I have seen Clomiphene and Enclomiphene pop up.. anyone know anything about these/ had any experience with these?

Thanks

You can always PCT. I was also always skeptical about Test, but it was the best decision ever and I will forever run it (Wanted to pct first, but nah the benefits are just amazing).

 

[good_king_alex]

You can always PCT. I was also always skeptical about Test, but it was the best decision ever and I will forever run it (Wanted to pct first, but nah the benefits are just amazing).

Do you worry about being dependent on the the medical system for life? Admittedly my paranoia stems from the idea of a societal collapse in which TRT is no longer avaibile haha.

But fr isn't it terrifying knowing how dependant you become on it

 

[VrillFatNoob24]

I am looking to boost my test levels to the high-average range i.e. 800ng/dl +.

BUT i don't want to destroy by ability to create testosterone in the future, should I want/need to come off.

What are some alternatives to TRT/steroids that people have experience with and would recommend?

e.g. I have seen Clomiphene and Enclomiphene pop up.. anyone know anything about these/ had any experience with these?

Thanks

smiling more
mewing
drinking water
hygene

 

[ketamin]

Do you worry about being dependent on the the medical system for life? Admittedly my paranoia stems from the idea of a societal collapse in which TRT is no longer avaibile haha.

But fr isn't it terrifying knowing how dependant you become on it

No idc. You can also recover pretty easily if you run test for years. I was at 420 test levels natty, absolutely horrible life quality. Since I started using test, social anxiety, motivation and confidence through the roof. Also girls DO fucking notice that you are high T.

 

[theladarer2000]

My primary motivation is the energy and motivation. The gains would be nice also. What do you run, if anything?

Honestly there won’t be much of a diff from whatever you are at now (unless ur test is sub500) I don’t run anything currently but I’ll prob start a test + gh stack soon

 

[VrillFatNoob24]

Do you worry about being dependent on the the medical system for life? Admittedly my paranoia stems from the idea of a societal collapse in which TRT is no longer avaibile haha.

But fr isn't it terrifying knowing how dependant you become on it

its like brushing your teeth, but you can choose enthate and do it weekly, no biggie

 

[Cheesecakist]

just fucking pin

 

[good_king_alex]

No idc. You can also recover pretty easily if you run test for years. I was at 420 test levels natty, absolutely horrible life quality. Since I started using test, social anxiety, motivation and confidence through the roof. Also girls DO fucking notice that you are high T.

haha you are already selling it to me. Trust me I am ready to up my test. But I simply don't think that is true, that you can run it for years, without frying your ability to produce it youself. Do you run HCG also?

 

[good_king_alex]

No idc. You can also recover pretty easily if you run test for years. I was at 420 test levels natty, absolutely horrible life quality. Since I started using test, social anxiety, motivation and confidence through the roof. Also girls DO fucking notice that you are high T.

Would you say your energy and sleep improved?

 

[ketamin]

haha you are already selling it to me. Trust me I am ready to up my test. But I simply don't think that is true, that you can run it for years, without frying your ability to produce it youself. Do you run HCG also?

Check out connor sinnan e.g. He ran test for years and hopped off cuz he was in prison. His T levels fully recovered. I was on HCG, but dropped it cuz I was too horny all the time. Will use it again tho once I will want kids.

 

[ketamin]

Would you say your energy and sleep improved?

Yes, drastically. I feel like superman no joke

 

[epsilonic]

I am looking to boost my test levels to the high-average range i.e. 800ng/dl +.

BUT i don't want to destroy by ability to create testosterone in the future, should I want/need to come off.

What are some alternatives to TRT/steroids that people have experience with and would recommend?

e.g. I have seen Clomiphene and Enclomiphene pop up.. anyone know anything about these/ had any experience with these?

Thanks

HCG. im on it with arimidex and its the best thing ever, u can ask more abt it

 

[epsilonic]

Check out connor sinnan e.g. He ran test for years and hopped off cuz he was in prison. His T levels fully recovered. I was on HCG, but dropped it cuz I was too horny all the time. Will use it again tho once I will want kids.

i get erect doing genuinely nothing