Alternatives to Capitalism and Socialism

[Deleted member 6128]

Both are shit what are good alternatives not talked about

 

[Graham]

Doesn't matter. Under any regime I die a virgin.

 

[Deleted member 6128]

Doesn't matter. Under any regime I die a virgin.

 

[thereallegend]

feudalism, slavery

 

[Graham]

It

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It's like hover-hand, but instead it's hover lips.

Virtue signalling, but secretly being disgusted.

 

[Deleted member 25190]

Longism

 

[Hipcel]

Socialism is worse than capitalism.

 

[Deleted member 6128]

Socialism is worse than capitalism.

how

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Both are shit what are good alternatives not talked about

Socialism is the rejection of hierarchy and human inequality. Capitalism rejects national identity and is the rule of money or capital.

Both are bad systems capitalism imo isn't an ideology its a tool of free market exchanges of money and its very effective at boosting up good ideas. The problem is you have some situations where no one will care enough to spend money. Birth rate issues immigration ect. If you lets say let in 50 million Chinese people to the US then the GDP will increase a lot in the short term but in the long term it would be worse. Capitalism is amoral and neutral whatever makes money wins. Its up to the government or some ruling class to decide when thats good. Socialism main issue is denying some people are inferior.

Ideally a sort of noble class of people who are smart and have vested interests in the people but for the most part free market beyond large scale social issues. There will always be an Elite above us this was true 1000 years ago and it will be true so long as human beings are the way they are. Covid proved to me most people have very little free will we need a government lead by the smartest most representative men. Look what China is doing they have grown so much and yet the government still controls things in key social issues

 

[Marsiere214]

judaism

 

[Deleted member 11126]

The problem today is that the people in our nations are not nationalists they serve a global order. A politician in France and America have more in common with eachother then the members of their nation. They go to the same private schools the same Ivy League schools and they have common interest more so then with their nation.

Capitalism and communism is a really outdated argument this is truly a border-less kabbalah of people you really can't chalk it up to capitalism or communism. The rules of the world from 1000 years ago still apply there are unelected elite bloodlines who control the system. Democracy is a sham there will be an unelected elite but they should serve the people's interest.

 

[Deleted member 6128]

Socialism is the rejection of hierarchy and human inequality. Capitalism rejects national identity and is the rule of money or capital.

Both are bad systems capitalism imo isn't an ideology its a tool of free market exchanges of money and its very effective at boosting up good ideas. The problem is you have some situations where no one will care enough to spend money. Birth rate issues immigration ect. If you lets say let in 50 million Chinese people to the US then the GDP will increase a lot in the short term but in the long term it would be worse. Capitalism is amoral and neutral whatever makes money wins. Its up to the government or some ruling class to decide when thats good. Socialism main issue is denying some people are inferior.

Ideally a sort of noble class of people who are smart and have vested interests in the people but for the most part free market beyond large scale social issues. There will always be an Elite above us this was true 1000 years ago and it will be true so long as human beings are the way they are. Covid proved to me most people have very little free will we need a government lead by the smartest most representative men. Look what China is doing they have grown so much and yet the government still controls things in key social issues

The problem today is that the people in our nations are not nationalists they serve a global order. A politician in France and America have more in common with eachother then the members of their nation. They go to the same private schools the same Ivy League schools and they have common interest more so then with their nation.

Capitalism and communism is a really outdated argument this is truly a border-less kabbalah of people you really can't chalk it up to capitalism or communism. The rules of the world from 1000 years ago still apply there are unelected elite bloodlines who control the system. Democracy is a sham there will be an unelected elite but they should serve the people's interest.

Based af like both paragraphs from you

What about corporatism as an alternative which was used nazi germany and Mussolini's Italy. Like you said Capitalism slowly destroys a country and Communism can not accept the fact that some people are inferior.

 

[blackpillerguy]

Anarchism

 

[Deleted member 24278]

Roping

 

[Deleted member 6128]

Anarchism

Literallly free market capitalism

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Based af like both paragraphs from you

What about corporatism as an alternative which was used nazi germany and Mussolini's Italy. Like you said Capitalism slowly destroys a country and Communism can not accept the fact that some people are inferior.

Well first a new elite with vested interests needs to be formed. WW1 destroyed the monarchies of Europe and the last remaining old standing European families were dethrowned in WW2. So there are no competing elite groups. People forget Hitler had the support of the old royal family and many elite families.

But overall capitalism imo is neither good nor bad just like technology its just neutral ofc its going to be used for bad things or be short sighted in some areas. Its not an ideology or end in itself there needs to a moral core that governs the nation and this should control free markets.

Better ideas and smarter/harder working people should have more control in society but we also need to make sure this aligns with societies goals. Captialism should be thought of as a tool more so then an idea a tool to create innovation. This tool however will be wielded and largerly controlled by large group interests regardless. So its best if its controlled by an elite noblemen like class rather then transnational elites who do not belong to any country. The biggest distinction is old royal families cared about their nations nowadays the elite have nothing in common. Germany France Britain US Elites have more in common with eachother then any of their people.

 

[Deleted member 15302]

i dont think there is a solution to the problems capitalism faces because the same problems will arise in any system. the concept of currency will always allow people to make all sorts of advanced trades, creating credit and assigning labor value to currency. the problem is that anything can be considered currency. also stocks, credit, deals, etc. are all forms of an advanced trade. when one person is able to make an advanced trade with thousands of people they gain way too much power which pretty much will give them the power to overthrow any government and establish their own. this doesnt necessarily mean that every system will turn into capitalism, because you can definitely have a society that doesnt own private property, but every society will always have the same problems as capitalism.

 

[HumidVent]

Socialism is the stage after capitalism, and it's better than capitalism. If you take countries of equivalent economic development and compare the socialist ones to the capitalists ones, the socialist ones come out on top the majority of the time.

No one can claim to be blackpilled and not be a materialist. Marxism is the only materialist political theory, everything else is idealist.

Literally every argument against Marxism I've read in my life has been a strawman.

 

[Whatashame]

Both are shit what are good alternatives not talked about

"both are shit" I guess you must have read at least 10 books about the topic to have such a storng opinion. Or are you just saying that based on common sense?

 

[Whatashame]

In my opinion anarchism is the only ethical one, but its just impossible to happen. Communism is the most viable option. Capitalism is a joke and every poor person who defend it has less critical sense than a mouse.

 

[Lord-Arthur_17]

In my opinion anarchism is the only ethical one, but its just impossible to happen. Communism is the most viable option. Capitalism is a joke and every poor person who defend it has less critical sense than a mouse.

Left-wing anarchism or right-wing anarchism?
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Socialism is worse than capitalism.

... only for the rich
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Doesn't matter. Under any regime I die a virgin.

In socialism, thanks to free aesthetic medicine and financial stability, your chances of losing your virginity increase.​

 

[Whatashame]

Left-wing anarchism or right-wing anarchism?


... only for the rich


In socialism, thanks to free aesthetic medicine and financial stability, your chances of losing your virginity increase.​

left

 

[Chadpreet_]

Atleast capitalism let's you have a chance

 

[Graham]

In socialism, thanks to free aesthetic medicine and financial stability, your chances of losing your virginity increase.

Brb, off to ask these guys to pay for my bimax due to their financial stability.

 

[Lord-Arthur_17]

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Brb, off to ask these guys to pay for my bimax due to their financial stability.

 

[AlexBrown84]

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