AMA about roiding (and other compounds aswell)

[jeff1234]

I’m pretty sure I have enough experience to help you guys.
AMA.

 

[aloooeJIEEES]

Appeal or psl

 

[Inquisitor]

I’m pretty sure I have enough experience to help you guys.
AMA.

thoughts on Oxandrolone (anavar)? what do you think about igf-1 lr3?

 

[jeff1234]

thoughts on Oxandrolone (anavar)? what do you think about igf-1 lr3?

Anavar is great.

Pointless to use igf 1 lr3 when you have HGH.

 

[minoxidilmaxxed78]

thoughts on cjc and ipamorelin?

 

[jeff1234]

thoughts on cjc and ipamorelin?

It’s fine, I won’t use it to grow taller tho, only for muscles and skin.

 

[aloooeJIEEES]

Appeal or psp

 

[minoxidilmaxxed78]

It’s fine, I won’t use it to grow taller tho, only for muscles and skin.

what about facial bone growth?

 

[jeff1234]

what about facial bone growth?

Won’t significantly change your facial bonemass aswell.

 

[testosterone36]

what about facial bone growth?

cjc + ipa blend 4 months

 

[jeff1234]

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It’s called a “debloat”. Your bonemass is the same.

 

[minoxidilmaxxed78]

Won’t significantly change your facial bonemass aswell.

damn already ordered it

 

[jeff1234]

damn already ordered it

Why would you order something you know nothing about

 

[minoxidilmaxxed78]

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cjc + ipa blend 4 months

how much of that is just debloat and frauding?

 

[korne]

Won’t significantly change your facial bonemass aswell.

hgh or injecting igf lr3 straight to your jaw for bonemass

 

[testosterone36]

It’s called a “debloat”. Your bonemass is the same.

just showing pics

 

[jeff1234]

hgh or injecting igf lr3 straight to your jaw for bonemass

I know it’s satire, but for the protocol,it won’t work either.

 

[minoxidilmaxxed78]

Why would you order something you know nothing about

everywhere ive read says that it coudl have at least some positive impact on facial bone growth. its cheap anyway so I didn't rlly care

 

[Inquisitor]

@jeff1234, do you think enclo is decent to maintain normal test levels while on low dosages of anavar? The suppression from, for example, 10-20mg anavar is not that big and might be fully or at least partially counteracted by enclomiphene.

 

[jeff1234]

everywhere ive read says that it coudl have at least some positive impact on facial bone growth. its cheap anyway so I didn't rlly care

You don’t notice a difference at all, you will maybe grow a cm but that’s it.
The only reason you should that it is for muscles, skin and hair follicles.

 

[minoxidilmaxxed78]

Won’t significantly change your facial bonemass aswell.

also what about bojak. apparently he took it for bonemass and it worked. don't verbally rape me if I'm wrong

 

[jeff1234]

@jeff1234, do you think enclo is decent to maintain normal test levels while on low dosages of anavar? The suppression from, for example, 10-20mg anavar is not that big and might be fully or at least partially counteracted by enclomiphene.

No, it’s pointless, your LH will start working again after you end the anavar cycle even if you abuse it.

 

[keife]

I’m pretty sure I have enough experience to help you guys.
AMA.

Ur opinions on drugs like vorinostat and teriparatide?
Also is it true there is no such thing as taking igf-1 unless ur gonna get mecasermin which is impossible to get your hands on and u gotta be a millionare for it. igf-1 des or igf-1 lr3 don’t work for bone growth ( not in your clavicles or growth plates for heightmaxxing) - since they dont bind to igf-1 binding proteins like igf-1bp3 and bp 5.

 

[jeff1234]

also what about bojak. apparently he took it for bonemass and it worked. don't verbally rape me if I'm wrong

If you can actually look at his transformation, you would see that he just debloated, his bone mass is the same.

 

[CalulArgintiu59]

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Literally the same, those masseters even look the same size, just in a better lighting

 

[mirrormogger]

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your ramus literally moved forward from how you’re jutting in the second pic,
what is the point of this cope

 

[korne]

I know it’s satire, but for the protocol,it won’t work either.

aww, i was actually hoping hgh will actually help with my recessed skull

 

[jeff1234]

Ur opinions on drugs like vorinostat and teriparatide?
Also is it true there is no such thing as taking igf-1 unless ur gonna get mecasermin which is impossible to get your hands on and u gotta be a millionare for it. igf-1 des or igf-1 lr3 don’t work for bone growth ( not in your clavicles or growth plates for heightmaxxing) - since they dont bind to igf-1 binding proteins like igf-1bp3 and bp 5.

Teripatide is decent, but I don’t know much on it, but from what I’ve heard it’s good for bones.
Vorinostant is complicated since it can also reactivate bad genes, and getting your hands on it is almost impossible not mentioning the price of it, it’s also not researched enough to know about the downsides of it.
IGF lr3 is shit, no reason to use it, just use HGH.

 

[KindMaster1]

I’m pretty sure I have enough experience to help you guys.
AMA.

Does hrt create lifelong dependency?

Did your balls shrink?

Did you experience any issues with your heart or your brain, since unnatural amount of muscle is always stealing mitochondria and energy and even nutrients from your heart and brain (which eat the biggest amount of those things, I've heard a stat of 20 percent)?

 

[KindMaster1]

It’s called a “debloat”. Your bonemass is the same.

I hope so. I want to lose weight to 70 kg at 6 feet, to achieve such an effect.
When I was 80 kilos, I looked 2 points of facial looks higher as compared to when I was 90. And possibly 4 points higher as compared to when I was 100.
Now I'm 90 again, it looks bad.
I took photos at every stage, this is a real thing.

 

[aids]

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Me when I lose weight, tilt my head up, use filters, and squint whilst looking down.
"bone growth"

 

[aids]

OP has enough experience with gear but prefaces half of the advice he gives, with not being well-informed on particular compounds. Then don't fucking talk on them.
You're making assumptions and misinforming the idiots reliant on you, asking you questions instead of doing their own research.

 

[SteirischeEiche]

What about IGF-1 DES straight into the TMJ? There is a study where they did this with rats and they gained insane Bones

 

[tyranny]

thoughts on rad-140, and enclo for test maintenance and pct?

 

[jeff1234]

OP has enough experience with gear but prefaces half of the advice he gives, with not being well-informed on particular compounds. Then don't fucking talk on them.
You're making assumptions and misinforming the idiots reliant on you, asking you questions instead of doing their own research.

Like which compounds ? What compound I don’t know about except for teripatide?

 

[jeff1234]

thoughts on rad-140, and enclo for test maintenance and pct?

Dad 140 is the worst SARM ever. If you’re goal is muscle mass then there are much better alternatives

 

[jeff1234]

What about IGF-1 DES straight into the TMJ? There is a study where they did this with rats and they gained insane Bones

IGF des infact gives bonemass locally but injecting it in your face can come with bad downsides like asymmetry

 

[aids]

thoughts on rad-140, and enclo for test maintenance and pct?

You don't run Enclo on-cycle with something that suppresses you.
Just run test, then use Enclo for PCT. HCG towards the end of your cycle if you want to keep testosterone levels in the testes high, not Enclo, since you are going to experience suppression to your HPTA from RAD-140 or testosterone anyway.
Don't even use RAD-140 anyway. The only benefit of RAD-140 over testosterone is the ease of administration if you're a pussy, and/or the fact it has a 10:1 anabolic-to-androgenic ratio as opposed to testosterone at 1:1, but androgenic sides of testosterone can be easily managed if you're not a retard. The side effects of RAD-140 (long-term) are unknown and there should be no incentive to use it over just pinning.

 

[aids]

What about IGF-1 DES straight into the TMJ? There is a study where they did this with rats and they gained insane Bones

Stop misconstruing bone density with changes in volume.

 

[jeff1234]

Does hrt create lifelong dependency?

Did your balls shrink?

Did you experience any issues with your heart or your brain, since unnatural amount of muscle is always stealing mitochondria and energy and even nutrients from your heart and brain (which eat the biggest amount of those things, I've heard a stat of 20 percent)?

Yes, typically HRT create lifelong dependency.

No my balls didn’t shrink.

My brain is also great.

 

[ReturnOfTheBO2Cel]

Stop misconstruing bone density with changes in volume.

do u think bonesmashing works if you run the right peptides

 

[jeff1234]

You don't run Enclo on-cycle with something that suppresses you.
Just run test, then use Enclo for PCT. HCG towards the end of your cycle if you want to keep testosterone levels in the testes high, not Enclo, since you are going to experience suppression to your HPTA from RAD-140 or testosterone anyway.
Don't even use RAD-140 anyway. The only benefit of RAD-140 over testosterone is the ease of administration if you're a pussy, and/or the fact it has a 10:1 anabolic-to-androgenic ratio as opposed to testosterone at 1:1, but androgenic sides of testosterone can be easily managed if you're not a retard. The side effects of RAD-140 (long-term) are unknown and there should be no incentive to use it over just pinning.

Pct is a meme. Most people here don’t run doses that require a PCT.

Just read this study :

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/36/4/880/6129954?login=false

 

[jeff1234]

do u think bonesmashing works if you run the right peptides

No. Don’t bonesmash

 

[chadbeingmade]

thoughts on rad-140, and enclo for test maintenance and pct?

Don’t ever use fucking enclo. Only comical fucking retards recommend that shit.

 

[aids]

Pct is a meme. Most people here don’t run doses that require a PCT.

Just read this study :

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/36/4/880/6129954?login=false

I know that chadisbeingmade likes to throw this study around but it is inconsiderate of how much faster those who run PCT recover than those who do not.
This exact study, if you cared to read it, argues that because those in the experimental group (using PCT) and those in the control group (not using PCT) both return to baseline endogenous production by 3 months post-cycle, and the experimental group have relatively lower sperm counts one year following the beginning of their cycle, that PCT is actually bad for you.
But what's to say the experimental group didn't recover in 1 month whereas the control group took 2.5? The study is shit and there was also conflicts of interest omitted from this too.

 

[aids]

do u think bonesmashing works if you run the right peptides

I don't think the results from bone smashing can be attributed to changes in bone volume, rather short-term inflammation that occurs from hitting yourself in the face.
That's not to say there's not a stubborn part of me that'd like to believe it works, but realistically, I doubt it.

 

[jeff1234]

I know that chadisbeingmade likes to throw this study around but it is inconsiderate of how much faster those who run PCT recover than those who do not.
This exact study, if you cared to read it, argues that because those in the experimental group (using PCT) and those in the control group (not using PCT) both return to baseline endogenous production by 3 months post-cycle, and the experimental group have relatively lower sperm counts one year following the beginning of their cycle, that PCT is actually bad for you.
But what's to say the experimental group didn't recover in 1 month whereas the control group took 2.5? The study is shit and there was also conflicts of interest omitted from this too.

you’re making my point for me without realizing it.
You’re saying the study doesn’t show PCT helps long-term, and might even show it hurts sperm count, and you’re still defending it like gospel? Even you admit we don’t know when the control group recovered, so the whole “PCT speeds things up” claim is pure speculation.
And let’s not pretend the average user on here is blasting 700mg Tren, 90% of people are doing low-dose Anavar or a basic test cycle. You’re not gonna be permanently shut down from 20mg Var for 6 weeks.
That’s why I said PCT is a meme for most people here. Body rebounds naturally. HPTA doesn’t need to be micromanaged like it’s a fragile flower every time someone touches a SARM or oral.

@chadbeingmade thoughts?

 

[aids]

you’re making my point for me without realizing it.
You’re saying the study doesn’t show PCT helps long-term, and might even show it hurts sperm count, and you’re still defending it like gospel? Even you admit we don’t know when the control group recovered, so the whole “PCT speeds things up” claim is pure speculation.

In this particular study, sperm count of the experimental group was lower. I'm not defending it like gospel. I am saying that this study is not a good study. Plenty of other people have said this, for many reasons.
And yes, we don't know when the control group recovered, so you cannot use it as evidence against using PCT. I am not saying that it is evidence using for PCT. You are misconstruing my point.

And let’s not pretend the average user on here is blasting 700mg Tren, 90% of people are doing low-dose Anavar or a basic test cycle. You’re not gonna be permanently shut down from 20mg Var for 6 weeks.

No, obviously not, but the user talking about Enclomiphene, wasn't asking about anavar, were they?

That’s why I said PCT is a meme for most people here. Body rebounds naturally. HPTA doesn’t need to be micromanaged like it’s a fragile flower every time someone touches a SARM or oral.

You can reiterate other peoples' points as much as you want about it not being an absolute necessity, but I would rather expedite endogenous production of testosterone via the usage of a SERM as opposed to waiting it out.
I already mentioned in my reply that the study shows both groups recovered by 3-months post-cycle, I never said that the layman won't recover testosterone production without the usage of PCT. You are again misconstruing my words.

Just because you don't NEED it to recover endogenous production, doesn't mean it doesn't help.

 

[tyranny]

Don’t ever use fucking enclo. Only comical fucking retards recommend that shit.

How come?

 

[SteirischeEiche]

Stop misconstruing bone density with changes in volume.

Read the Study yourself Nigger

IGF-1 TMJ Injections Enhance Mandibular Growth and Bone Quality in Juvenile Rats - PMC

Dentofacial orthopedic treatment of mandibular hypoplasia has unpredictable skeletal outcomes. Although several biomodulators including insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1) are known to contribute to chondrocyte proliferation, their efficacy in ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov