Any experienced gymcel here?

[CagedKitten]

Any experienced gymcels here? I’m tryna get lean but also put on some muscle mass at the same time. Not trying to bulk into a fatcel or stay skinny, just want that clean mogger look.

What routine do you guys recommend and how do you balance diet with this? I keep seeing ppl say different things and it’s confusing. Need something straight that actually works.

Also give me advice for a weekly gym routine which muscle and when to train.

 

[zharupodrugu]

just take basic stuff

 

[htautist]

Any experienced gymcels here? I’m tryna get lean but also put on some muscle mass at the same time. Not trying to bulk into a fatcel or stay skinny, just want that clean mogger look.

What routine do you guys recommend and how do you balance diet with this? I keep seeing ppl say different things and it’s confusing. Need something straight that actually works.

Also give me advice for a weekly gym routine which muscle and when to train.

Bulking and cutting generally ends up being more efficient unless you’re really fat, also you can do a push pull legs split and taking any peds would be a stupid decision unless you’ve gotten close to natty potential after countless years of training

 

[Elegant]

gaining muscle and losing fat is mostly impossible if u arent an absolute begginer or you roid (which you could do if u are tall)

 

[afghanincel]

Any experienced gymcels here? I’m tryna get lean but also put on some muscle mass at the same time. Not trying to bulk into a fatcel or stay skinny, just want that clean mogger look.

What routine do you guys recommend and how do you balance diet with this? I keep seeing ppl say different things and it’s confusing. Need something straight that actually works.

Also give me advice for a weekly gym routine which muscle and when to train.

Cut down till 12-15 bf% bcs u will gain the same amount of muscle when u bulk or even maingain now bcs ur a beginner and beginners always build in there first sec or even third cut as much muscle as the would doing a bulk etc and if u want as much gains as possible do a fbeod but also a upper lower

 

[afghanincel]

gaining muscle and losing fat is mostly impossible if u arent an absolute begginer or you roid (which you could do if u are tall)

i mean if he doesn’t over 5 years than yes but u can gain muscle and lose fat

 

[benchmaxxer]

Any experienced gymcels here? I’m tryna get lean but also put on some muscle mass at the same time. Not trying to bulk into a fatcel or stay skinny, just want that clean mogger look.

What routine do you guys recommend and how do you balance diet with this? I keep seeing ppl say different things and it’s confusing. Need something straight that actually works.

Also give me advice for a weekly gym routine which muscle and when to train.

if youre a complete beginner to the gym you can go on a -500 deficit with 1g per ib protien and still build muscle and lose fat at the same time as long as you are training and dieting correctly. run PPL and train whenever convenient, but never sack sleep for training

 

[Finnishmogger]

Full body is scientifically the best split, do it on monday, wednesday and friday. Do 1 set to failure for each muscle. Train the muscle you want to grow the most first. After some months you could add a second set for some muscles. also avoid doing for example bench, then chest flies as those are literally the same movement. Even if the movements look different it may actually be training the same muscle. also avoid doing free weights and favor machines as you get better stability on those

 

[Mike456]

Any experienced gymcels here? I’m tryna get lean but also put on some muscle mass at the same time. Not trying to bulk into a fatcel or stay skinny, just want that clean mogger look.

What routine do you guys recommend and how do you balance diet with this? I keep seeing ppl say different things and it’s confusing. Need something straight that actually works.

Also give me advice for a weekly gym routine which muscle and when to train.

I was in the situation as you 2 years ago
1.Slight 200-300 calories surplus

2.Lose fat(by walking runnig,cycling,swimming or sauna which I prefer)

3. Train 3-4 times a week(back,chest+shoulders,biceps triceps fore arms,legs)

4.Eat pretty clean can have an icecream or something a week or something like that

5.Have an cut after a year or so

 

[Finnishmogger]

Any experienced gymcels here? I’m tryna get lean but also put on some muscle mass at the same time. Not trying to bulk into a fatcel or stay skinny, just want that clean mogger look.

What routine do you guys recommend and how do you balance diet with this? I keep seeing ppl say different things and it’s confusing. Need something straight that actually works.

Also give me advice for a weekly gym routine which muscle and when to train.

Just eat on a small calorie deficit and a lot of protein, you will for sure lose fat and build muscle

 

[afghanincel]

Bulking and cutting generally ends up being more efficient unless you’re really fat, also you can do a push pull legs split and taking any peds would be a stupid decision unless you’ve gotten close to natty potential after countless years of training

Dont do a push pull leg u would be better off with upper lower as i said or anterior posterior or fb

 

[Finnishmogger]

I was in the situation as you 2 years ago
1.Slight 200-300 calories surplus

2.Lose fat(by walking runnig,cycling,swimming or sauna which I prefer)

3. Train 3-4 times a week(back,chest+shoulders,biceps triceps fore arms,legs)

4.Eat pretty clean can have an icecream or something a week or something like that

5.Have an cut after a year or so

you wont lose fat if you are on a calorie surplus

 

[Finnishmogger]

Dont do a push pull leg u would be better off with upper lower as i said or anterior posterior

fullbody>anterior posterior

 

[Mike456]

you wont lose fat if you are on a calorie surplus

Yea but you have to have some muscles so you look good

Depends on how much he burns I used to burn like 300 min a day so it was ok

 

[afghanincel]

Just eat on a small calorie deficit and a lot of protein, you will for sure lose fat and build muscle

Dont u eat allot of proteins eat allot of carbs they way more important in a cut than proteins 1.6-1.8g per kg protein 1g per kg fats and the rest carbs

 

[htautist]

Dont do a push pull leg u would be better off with upper lower as i said or anterior posterior

True, just depends on individuals ig I personally like ppl a lot

 

[4ever]

Push pull legs, stick to a routine and push yourself as hard as you can while maintaining decent form.
Try to get enough protein and carbs, don't go overboard. No need for big cutting or bulking, unless you start of super skinny or fat.

 

[afghanincel]

True, just depends on individuals ig I personally like ppl a lot

I mean ye u like it more but fb mogs to death and upper lower mogs it to and its even the thing when ur talking about frequency and volume

 

[afghanincel]

Push pull legs, stick to a routine and push yourself as hard as you can while maintaining decent form.
Try to get enough protein and carbs, don't go overboard. No need for big cutting or bulking, unless you start of super skinny or fat.

He said experienced gymcels not some with ass knowledge

 

[4ever]

He said experienced gymcels not some with ass knowledge

Bro watched 3 tiktoks and is now an expert.

 

[Finnishmogger]

Dont u eat allot of proteins eat allot of carbs they way more important in a cut than proteins 1.6-1.8g per kg protein 1g per kg fats and the rest carbs

Im not saying he should do an agressive cut, just a small calorie deficit while not cutting on the protein to build muscle. extra protein isnt really bad.

 

[Finnishmogger]

Yea but you have to have some muscles so you look good

Depends on how much he burns I used to burn like 300 min a day so it was ok

you can build muscle at the same time as losing fat

 

[afghanincel]

Bro watched 3 tiktoks and is now an expert.

Ahahah sure bro i watched 3 tts and now think i have degree in traininf physiology

U clearly dont anything about lifting

 

[got.daim]

Any experienced gymcels here? I’m tryna get lean but also put on some muscle mass at the same time. Not trying to bulk into a fatcel or stay skinny, just want that clean mogger look.

What routine do you guys recommend and how do you balance diet with this? I keep seeing ppl say different things and it’s confusing. Need something straight that actually works.

Also give me advice for a weekly gym routine which muscle and when to train.

tldr?

 

[afghanincel]

Im not saying he should do an agressive cut, just a small calorie deficit while not cutting on the protein to build muscle. extra protein isnt really bad.

ye it isnt bad but u rly dont need the extra so why u not put it in carbs bcs ppl thing in a cut that proteins are the most important thing and they should eat allot of it bcs of that they don’t eat allot of carbs which leads to having less energy in the gym not a getting a stimulus for the muscle to grow and so they atrophy there muscles

 

[4ever]

Ahahah sure bro i watched 3 tts and now think i have degree in traininf physiology

U clearly dont anything about lifting

Dismantle my advice then:

1. Prioritize Protein and Carbs

2. Intensity (push yourself as hard as possible while maintaining ok form).
-> imo not training with perfect form but with intensity is way more important for hypertrophy than other way around

3. Split: PPL is a decent suggestion and can be modified. E.g. biceps on chest day, etc.
Sure, full body, UL is fine as well. More important than milking out a couple of percent extra would be getting in the habit of going regularly to the gym, getting familiar with the exercises, etc. Especially for a total beginner.

 

[Finnishmogger]

Dismantle my advice then:

1. Prioritize Protein and Carbs

2. Intensity (push yourself as hard as possible while maintaining ok form).
-> imo not training with perfect form but with intensity is way more important for hypertrophy than other way around

3. Split: PPL is a decent suggestion and can be modified. E.g. biceps on chest day, etc.
Sure, full body, UL is fine as well. More important than milking out a couple of percent extra would be getting in the habit of going regularly to the gym, getting familiar with the exercises, etc. Especially for a total beginner.

with ppl you train one muscle twice a week, which is fine, but why not do full body, train one muscle 3 times a week while having to go 3 times a week instead of 6

 

[afghanincel]

Dismantle my advice then:

1. Prioritize Protein and Carbs

2. Intensity (push yourself as hard as possible while maintaining ok form).
-> imo not training with perfect form but with intensity is way more important for hypertrophy than other way around

3. Split: PPL is a decent suggestion and can be modified. E.g. biceps on chest day, etc.
Sure, full body, UL is fine as well. More important than milking out a couple of percent extra would be getting in the habit of going regularly to the gym, getting familiar with the exercises, etc. Especially for a total beginner.

1. Yes proteins are important so are carbs but u need max 1.6-1.8g protein per kg to maximize growth and u should eat as much carbs as u can

2. Pushing ur as hard as u can? Holy fatigue same stimulus between 0-2 RIR why should i push myself for nothing

3. So fb is only 0.67% better?? Aight i get ofc 2>>3-4 frequency makes allot of sense

 

[afghanincel]

with ppl you train one muscle twice a week, which is fine, but why not do full body, train one muscle 3 times a week while having to go 3 times a week instead of 6

Exactly more stimulus more rest now think logically is it better

 

[afghanincel]

Dismantle my advice then:

1. Prioritize Protein and Carbs

2. Intensity (push yourself as hard as possible while maintaining ok form).
-> imo not training with perfect form but with intensity is way more important for hypertrophy than other way around

3. Split: PPL is a decent suggestion and can be modified. E.g. biceps on chest day, etc.
Sure, full body, UL is fine as well. More important than milking out a couple of percent extra would be getting in the habit of going regularly to the gym, getting familiar with the exercises, etc. Especially for a total beginner.

Also for 1. There are 3 meta analysis that show u only need 1.6-1.8g of proteins to maximize growth and if u want i can provide them bcs im to bores to look it up now

 

[4ever]

1. Yes proteins are important so are carbs but u need max 1.6-1.8g protein per kg to maximize growth and u should eat as much carbs as u can

2. Pushing ur as hard as u can? Holy fatigue same stimulus between 0-2 RIR why should i push myself for nothing

3. So fb is only 0.67% better?? Aight i get ofc 2>>3-4 frequency makes allot of sense

1. So you're just nitpicking

2. Most people don't train hard enough at the gym. You're not talking to Platz, where failure really means failure.

with ppl you train one muscle twice a week, which is fine, but why not do full body, train one muscle 3 times a week while having to go 3 times a week instead of

3. Training every muscle 3-4 times a week is overkill. It might work with biceps or delts, but I personally won't be able to recover enough for 3-4 solid back / leg workouts a week.

 

[afghanincel]

1. So you're just nitpicking

2. Most people don't train hard enough at the gym. You're not talking to Platz, where failure really means failure.


3. Training every muscle 3-4 times a week is overkill. It might work with biceps or delts, but I personally won't be able to recover enough for 3-4 solid back / leg workouts a week.

How am i nitpicking

2. Most of the ppl dont bcs they dont know shit and just have the genetics and we both how underrated genetics are

3. Thats why u only do 1-2 sets per muscle group with 3-7 reps and 0-2 RIR to balance out the fatigue

I do legs 3-4x per week and i still progress in my lifts bcs i work smart and not like a idiot and dont say oh u dont work hard i do nigga

 

[Finnishmogger]

1. So you're just nitpicking

2. Most people don't train hard enough at the gym. You're not talking to Platz, where failure really means failure.


3. Training every muscle 3-4 times a week is overkill. It might work with biceps or delts, but I personally won't be able to recover enough for 3-4 solid back / leg workouts a week.

if you cant recover, u arent eating and sleeping well enough. 1 set to failure is enough to activate the most growth giving muscle cells.

 

[4ever]

if you cant recover, u arent eating and sleeping well enough. 1 set to failure is enough to activate the most growth giving muscle cells.

What you're saying is contradictory to @afghanincel s take.

Also this is simply not true.

 

[Finnishmogger]

What you're saying is contradictory to @afghanincel s take.

Also this is simply not true.

it is simply true. The cells activate close to failure. doesnt matter how many sets you do. the benefit is just small after the first set.

 

[Its0ver_r0pe$]

Any experienced gymcels here? I’m tryna get lean but also put on some muscle mass at the same time. Not trying to bulk into a fatcel or stay skinny, just want that clean mogger look.

What routine do you guys recommend and how do you balance diet with this? I keep seeing ppl say different things and it’s confusing. Need something straight that actually works.

Also give me advice for a weekly gym routine which muscle and when to train.

Reta

 

[SoundnVision]

You can only cut and bulk at the same time if you're on roids

 

[ethnical]

Any experienced gymcels here? I’m tryna get lean but also put on some muscle mass at the same time. Not trying to bulk into a fatcel or stay skinny, just want that clean mogger look.

What routine do you guys recommend and how do you balance diet with this? I keep seeing ppl say different things and it’s confusing. Need something straight that actually works.

Also give me advice for a weekly gym routine which muscle and when to train.

dnr

 

[ss07]

train all muscle groups 2x a week and go 3 movements and 2 sets till failure, so in total 12 sets per muscle group per week. This is the split i use currently.

Make sure to get at least 48h of rest before you train the muscle group again. Emphasize sleep and recovery (and obviously get a lot of protein). Carbs for preworkout. Workout should not take longer than an hour and I recommend doing 5 times a week.

 

[CagedKitten]

if youre a complete beginner to the gym you can go on a -500 deficit with 1g per ib protien and still build muscle and lose fat at the same time as long as you are training and dieting correctly. run PPL and train whenever convenient, but never sack sleep for training

I am confident about the diet part i just want a better technique for training to build muscle quicker and get lean

 

[CagedKitten]

train all muscle groups 2x a week and go 3 movements and 2 sets till failure, so in total 12 sets per muscle group per week. This is the split i use currently.

Make sure to get at least 48h of rest before you train the muscle group again. Emphasize sleep and recovery (and obviously get a lot of protein). Carbs for preworkout. Workout should not take longer than an hour and I recommend doing 5 times a week.

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[benchmaxxer]

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[CagedKitten]

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[benchmaxxer]

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