Any way to lengthen the ramus or lowering the gonial angle?

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Lowering the gonial angle either with lengthen the ramus vertically down via surgery. And straighening the ramus too.. Any Methods on the market?

 

[Deleted member 5818]

what if I told you that the gonial angle wasn’t the problem but a result of all the other fuck ups in your face

 

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what if I told you that the gonial angle wasn’t the problem but a result of all the other fuck ups in your face

Yes but who cares i want to fix it because it looks better when i morph it

 

[hairyballscel]

chew

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

think I've read about an osteotomy to lengthen ramus on here ya

@Sergio-OMS

 

[Dr. Greenberg]

I've also been thinking about this. Are there others way than CCW to make the mandible less downward grown? Like gonial angle implants

 

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I've also been thinking about this. Are there others way than CCW to make the mandible less downward grown? Like gonial angle implants

I Think chinwing could do it too, but i dont have much info

 

[Deleted member 5818]

chew

or implants or death

 

[hairyballscel]

literally just chew

it will length ramus and lower the gonial angle

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

literally just chew

it will length ramus and lower the gonial angle

This
If when you chew you contract the lower part of the masseters thats all you need
You will get lower, wider and more defined gonions
If you contract the middle part it wont do shit and will make you bloated

 

[BUY$DRUGS]

Buy that failm mastic gum shit and chew two pieces on both sides for 2 hours a day.
(beware of TMJ I did this for 4 months and didn't get TMJ but I always here these fags complaining about it like pussys after chewing for 10 minutes a week)

 

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This
If when you chew you contract the lower part of the masseters thats all you need
You will get lower, wider and more defined gonions
If you contract the middle part it wont do shit and will make you bloated

I dont understand how it makes my angle shorter tbh

Look at the first sideprofile, my ramus is short and is not straight. Second pic its straight so the angle is lower

 

[Deleted member 3043]

If when you chew you contract the lower part of the masseters thats all you need

how you do that? with premolars only?

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

how you do that? with premolars only?

You cant target the lower masseters by chewing with a specific tooth

I still am not sure of why some people recruit more the middle part instead of the lower.

You can target the lower part by getting an EMS (electrical stimulation) device on amazon or some shit and putting the electrodes in the lower masseters. This works. The devices are cheap enough for the outcome tbh. Some are like 50 bucks.
And you can also get botox in the middle masseters so that the lower masseters compensate. But I would combine this with ems.

 

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You cant target the lower masseters by chewing with a specific tooth

I still am not sure of why some people recruit more the middle part instead of the lower.

You can target the lower part by getting an EMS (electrical stimulation) device on amazon or some shit and putting the electrodes in the lower masseters. This works. The devices are cheap enough for the outcome tbh. Some are like 50 bucks.
And you can also get botox in the middle masseters so that the lower masseters compensate. But I would combine this with ems.

Lifefuel, i ordered such a device today lol for 30bucks

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Lifefuel, i ordered such a device today lol for 30bucks

Nice man.
Make sure its EMS/FES tho and not just a TENS. Kind of hard to get a good contraction with tens. Tens is more for functional theraphy than hypertrophy.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Nice man.
Make sure its EMS/FES tho and not just a TENS. Kind of hard to get a good contraction with tens. Tens is more for functional theraphy than hypertrophy.

have you tried and saw results or did know results? seems lifefuel

 

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Nice man.
Make sure its EMS/FES tho and not just a TENS. Kind of hard to get a good contraction with tens. Tens is more for functional theraphy than hypertrophy.

Hmm i got this one: SANITAS SEM 43 Digital TENS- / EMS-Device.

So both?

 

[Deleted member 5818]

You cant target the lower masseters by chewing with a specific tooth

I still am not sure of why some people recruit more the middle part instead of the lower.

You can target the lower part by getting an EMS (electrical stimulation) device on amazon or some shit and putting the electrodes in the lower masseters. This works. The devices are cheap enough for the outcome tbh. Some are like 50 bucks.
And you can also get botox in the middle masseters so that the lower masseters compensate. But I would combine this with ems.

Is there a thread on this?

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Hmm i got this one: SANITAS SEM 43 Digital TENS- / EMS-Device.

So both?

Yep ur good

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Is there a thread on this?

No I came up with this theory a few weeks ago and it turned out to be true.

 

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I dont understand how it makes my angle shorter tbh

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Look at the first sideprofile, my ramus is short and is not straight. Second pic its straight so the angle is lower

Bump @RecessedPrettyboy

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

I dont understand how it makes my angle shorter tbh

View attachment 968643

Look at the first sideprofile, my ramus is short and is not straight. Second pic its straight so the angle is lower

Thats most definitely caused by the strength/size of lower masseter
2nd profile has more active lower masseters
1st profile has less active lower masseters

As muscle gets bigger bone does aswell to accommodate the muscle.

 

[RecessedPrettyboy]

Ill just throw this out here too
Lower temporalis size and upper masseter size might very well be related to cheekbone width.

 

[Deleted member 10536]

I can never stick with chewing. It's so annoying and I don't like it

 

[FacialAesthetics]

Here comes the retarded meme 'chew' theory. That shit doesn't work and makes you look like a bloated potato regardless of what you do. There is no real evidence of getting the nice sharp gonial angle that you guys want. You either have it or you don't. If you don't, you have to get specific jaw implants for it. And that's it.

Chewing makes your face wider, not more aesthetic. You'll have a wider squarer face with a short gonial angle. It will look absolutely retarded.

 

[Attorney]

Here comes the retarded meme 'chew' theory. That shit doesn't work and makes you look like a bloated potato regardless of what you do. There is no real evidence of getting the nice sharp gonial angle that you guys want.

I think it only works if you are still developing tho.

 

[antiantifa]

Lowering the gonial angle either with lengthen the ramus vertically down via surgery. And straighening the ramus too.. Any Methods on the market?

Rotate palate CCW or move palate forward = visually more ramus length.

High growth hormone = actually big ramus.

 

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Rotate palate CCW or move palate forward = visually more ramus length.

High growth hormone = actually big ramus.

Do ccw both jaws?

 

[GigaAscender]

Chewing may increase bone mass of the jaw over time:

Forceful mastication activates osteocytes and builds a stout jawbone - Scientific Reports

Bone undergoes a constant reconstruction process of resorption and formation called bone remodeling, so that it can endure mechanical loading. During food ingestion, masticatory muscles generate the required masticatory force. The magnitude of applied masticatory force has long been believed to...

www.nature.com

 

[antiantifa]

Chewing may increase bone mass of the jaw over time:

Forceful mastication activates osteocytes and builds a stout jawbone - Scientific Reports

Bone undergoes a constant reconstruction process of resorption and formation called bone remodeling, so that it can endure mechanical loading. During food ingestion, masticatory muscles generate the required masticatory force. The magnitude of applied masticatory force has long been believed to...

www.nature.com

Bone mass =/= vertically grown ramus

Compare neanderthals who chewed a fuck ton to modern humans:

Notice the very small ramus, extreme deformation of the gonion, clockwise rotation of the lower face and relatively smaller lower jaw to the whole head.

 

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Bone mass =/= vertically grown ramus

Compare neanderthals who chewed a fuck ton to modern humans:

Notice the very small ramus, extreme deformation of the gonion, clockwise rotation of the lower face and relatively smaller lower jaw to the whole head.

Rip im a Neandertaler

 

[Dr. Greenberg]

Bump

 

[Deleted member 4790]

typical bias, confounding association with cause and even possible treatment

 

[PrisonBreakFan08]

Lowering the gonial angle either with lengthen the ramus vertically down via surgery. And straighening the ramus too.. Any Methods on the market?

Chew falim gum or chisell

 

[Deleted member 10172]

I think it only works if you are still developing tho.

It works?

 

[Echo]

Lefter 1 to impact maxilla or intruding teeth