APPEAL ISNT REAL

[ednwrks]

appeal isn’t real looks are 100% biological, if a girl says she likes brunettes that just means she’s seen more good looking men that are brunette. Prove me wrong…

 

[genetically fucked]

low iq

 

[A_Ron_Kool_Aid]

Appeal has nothing to do with hair color faggot nigga.

 

[Blackgymmax]

appeal isn’t real looks are 100% biological, if a girl says she likes brunettes that just means she’s seen more good looking men that are brunette. Prove me wrong…

Appeal is basically the blanks that psl hasn’t figured out.
However if you don’t look chadlite your appeal is not high. Even the viral htns don’t have that high appeal. If you were to test them vs a real chadlite like Lorenzo zurzolo you’d realize that a guy like Zurzolo is attractive to basically every single age group of females and a rly broad range
Vs the htns who even if they’re viral have very limited appeal to certain age groups niches etc

 

[Blackgymmax]

Appeal has nothing to do with hair color faggot nigga.

It does a bit actually

 

[loLyric]

if a girl says she likes brunettes that just means she’s seen more good looking men that are brunette. Prove me wrong…

bro im sure u have a certain race of women u prefer, even if both women are 9/10 models u still gonna go for race u prefer

 

[ednwrks]

True

 

[kazama]

100% biological

I mean, that's what the forum is based on.
But when someone says "attraction is relative" Idont believe it 100%, it will depend on the persons mental health, physical health, culture, and "opportunities"
But the "psl" will always be the majority's preference.
@Copercel @hopecel
What I mean is. A girls variation in what is attractive to some will vary, but the pattern will always be almost the same. Biologically, thats it. Thoughts?

 

[DravidianBvll]

Yes appeal is definitely biological, retards on this forum cope with psl, cus muh studies, but almost all women rate certain features higher than others, there's a reason why Cavill, Delon, Welling, Stepanov etc are rated far higher by women than O'pry, Barret, de Poot etc.

I think appeal is essentially a high trust eye area with a masculine jaw.

 

[TheArchitect]

appeal isn’t real looks are 100% biological, if a girl says she likes brunettes that just means she’s seen more good looking men that are brunette. Prove me wrong…

appeal is a combination of genetics and enviroment

 

[A_Ron_Kool_Aid]

It does a bit actually

Yeah, but not to a high extent. It's more so about the harmony and so on. But yeah average features like brown hair can play a little role in it.

 

[Blackgymmax]

Yes appeal is definitely biological, retards on this forum cope with psl, cus muh studies, but almost all women rate certain features higher than others, there's a reason why Cavill, Delon, Welling, Stepanov etc are rated far higher by women than O'pry, Barret, de Poot etc.

I think appeal is essentially a high trust eye area with a masculine jaw.

Welling is not up there lol
You’re actually retarded if you think that box head even mogs harry raftus.
Even cavill isn’t that great because his dimo is way too high. Stop watching TikTok retard. Having an ultra box square jaw hurts appeal. High trust sets area isn’t ideal. It’s about your overall face and looking masculine but not overly masculine without comical flaws.
Guys who are very good would be like
Harry raftus
Zurzolo
Lean prime chico
The best version of Alain delon
Jensen ackles
Brad Pitt
Alessandro delisosa if you hide his bad skin
You also have to be like a 7.5+ solid CL to have actually maxed your appeal

 

[blackpilledmocha]

appeal isn’t real looks are 100% biological, if a girl says she likes brunettes that just means she’s seen more good looking men that are brunette. Prove me wrong…

stfu retard

 

[ednwrks]

Actually back your claims instead of just spouting insults iqlet, lemme hear some evidence

 

[ednwrks]

bro im sure u have a certain race of women u prefer, even if both women are 9/10 models u still gonna go for race u prefer

Wouldn’t that just mean they’ve seen more good looking individuals of that race or social media and influence made them think that?

 

[DravidianBvll]

Welling is not up there lol
You’re actually retarded if you think that box head even mogs harry raftus.
Even cavill isn’t that great because his dimo is way too high. Stop watching TikTok retard. Having an ultra box square jaw hurts appeal. High trust sets area isn’t ideal. It’s about your overall face and looking masculine but not overly masculine without comical flaws.
Guys who are very good would be like
Harry raftus
Zurzolo
Lean prime chico
The best version of Alain delon
Jensen ackles
Brad Pitt
Alessandro delisosa if you hide his bad skin
You also have to be like a 7.5+ solid CL to have actually maxed your appeal

DNRD

 

[Blackgymmax]

View attachment 4116537
DNRD

The ugly guys looking on the outside in is what annoys me of this website sigh

 

[Copercel]

I mean, that's what the forum is based on.
But when someone says "attraction is relative" Idont believe it 100%, it will depend on the persons mental health, physical health, culture, and "opportunities"
But the "psl" will always be the majority's preference.
@Copercel @hopecel
What I mean is. A girls variation in what is attractive to some will vary, but the pattern will always be almost the same. Biologically, thats it. Thoughts?

The problem is we (the PSL community) are over complicating the rating system of how girls perceive us (like appeal, PSL, SMV etc) while the only thing they care about is if she is seeing a guy that looks good, or he doesn’t, that’s how simple women are

But I agree that the pattern will always be the same (like height, good face etc.) so attraction isn’t random, it has a consistent biological template, with small personal differences layered on top and that are special for each individual

Some girls will prefer blue eyes, some even brown eyes, but they almost ALWAYS will prefer a man that I taller, muscular, and better looking facially, with good health indicators,
because biologically, that’s how women evolved to choose a mate for survival, that’s how it works in nature:
Male Peacock:

Female Peacocks:

Elk male:

Elk female:

And that’s that way in the vast majority of animals AND humans

So yes I agree with what you have said, women will prefer a man who is tall, good looking etc. but some of them will prefer that he has brown eyes, brown hair good jaw (which is so called “PSL”) but the other women will prefer a man who is blonde, blue eyes (which is “appeal”) so it vary on each female, but the biological attraction to males never change

 

[sixracks]

Appeal is basically the blanks that psl hasn’t figured out.
However if you don’t look chadlite your appeal is not high. Even the viral htns don’t have that high appeal. If you were to test them vs a real chadlite like Lorenzo zurzolo you’d realize that a guy like Zurzolo is attractive to basically every single age group of females and a rly broad range
Vs the htns who even if they’re viral have very limited appeal to certain age groups niches etc

I heard discord htns are a diff story tho

 

[Blackgymmax]

I heard discord htns are a diff story tho

Discord htn = irl solid mtns

 

[jeoyw9192]

Welling is not up there lol
You’re actually retarded if you think that box head even mogs harry raftus.
Even cavill isn’t that great because his dimo is way too high. Stop watching TikTok retard. Having an ultra box square jaw hurts appeal. High trust sets area isn’t ideal. It’s about your overall face and looking masculine but not overly masculine without comical flaws.
Guys who are very good would be like
Harry raftus
Zurzolo
Lean prime chico
The best version of Alain delon
Jensen ackles
Brad Pitt
Alessandro delisosa if you hide his bad skin
You also have to be like a 7.5+ solid CL to have actually maxed your appeal

if not tiktok and social media in general what then lol? status also plays a decent role here, I don't think a lot of people outside the BP space and other tangentially related subreddits/forums know about Delisola to begin with.

And yeah I feel like appeal isn't particularly quantifiable atm; Cavill on paper is quite male gazed as you mentioned with the really wide jaw and such, but I would say he's very high appeal if not one of the highest.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

appeal isn’t real looks are 100% biological, if a girl says she likes brunettes that just means she’s seen more good looking men that are brunette. Prove me wrong…

What are you trying to say? How does looks being biological negate appeal being a reality?

 

[girlfriendslicer69]

appeal isn’t real looks are 100% biological

appeal is most definitely real

if a girl says she likes brunettes that just means she’s seen more good looking men that are brunette

not a bad observation

 

[Blackgymmax]

if not tiktok and social media in general what then lol? status also plays a decent role here, I don't think a lot of people outside the BP space and other tangentially related subreddits/forums know about Delisola to begin with.

And yeah I feel like appeal isn't particularly quantifiable atm; Cavill on paper is quite male gazed as you mentioned with the really wide jaw and such, but I would say he's very high appeal if not one of the highest.

Cuz you can go viral on social media because they actually funnel you through an algorithm. So let’s say you’re an htn with a 10% match rate on tinder or whatever
The algorithm can just funnel you so hard that you have so many viewers that it’ll look like you’re some appeal god
They also try to funnel you to girls who would be your type niche
But in reality you don’t get that
You go outside and if 10% fw you, you’re nothing
Vs an actual chadlite with like a 40% rate would go outside and legit girls will say you’re gorgeous etc on a daily basis and plenty will say you’re the best looking they’ve ever seen. Nobody has seen a true CL irl vs an htn to make the distinction. You can tell a guy is a basement dweller if TikTok is the source for gauging appeal
You shouldn’t actually gauge appeal off apps literally designed to funnel people into their niche. That’s the entire reason high mtns blow up

 

[unon]

appeal isn’t real looks are 100% biological, if a girl says she likes brunettes that just means she’s seen more good looking men that are brunette. Prove me wrong…

No you're wrong preference in looks are real

 

[ednwrks]

Cope

 

[Blackgymmax]

if not tiktok and social media in general what then lol? status also plays a decent role here, I don't think a lot of people outside the BP space and other tangentially related subreddits/forums know about Delisola to begin with.

And yeah I feel like appeal isn't particularly quantifiable atm; Cavill on paper is quite male gazed as you mentioned with the really wide jaw and such, but I would say he's very high appeal if not one of the highest.

You have to actually be around a real chadlite irl to know what it is. I’ve been around viral htns who are nothing irl
And actual chadlites.
Also

Cavill obviously isn’t the highest appeal. Where did that even come from

 

[ednwrks]

The problem is we (the PSL community) are over complicating the rating system of how girls perceive us (like appeal, PSL, SMV etc) while the only thing they care about is if she is seeing a guy that looks good, or he doesn’t, that’s how simple women are

But I agree that the pattern will always be the same (like height, good face etc.) so attraction isn’t random, it has a consistent biological template, with small personal differences layered on top and that are special for each individual

Some girls will prefer blue eyes, some even brown eyes, but they almost ALWAYS will prefer a man that I taller, muscular, and better looking facially, with good health indicators,
because biologically, that’s how women evolved to choose a mate for survival, that’s how it works in nature:
Male Peacock:
View attachment 4117184


Female Peacocks:
View attachment 4117186

Elk male:
View attachment 4117187

Elk female:
View attachment 4117189


And that’s that way in the vast majority of animals AND humans

So yes I agree with what you have said, women will prefer a man who is tall, good looking etc. but some of them will prefer that he has brown eyes, brown hair good jaw (which is so called “PSL”) but the other women will prefer a man who is blonde, blue eyes (which is “appeal”) so it vary on each female, but the biological attraction to males never change

Blue eyes is usually associated with light colored eyes which is a health indicator tho and blue eyes have a huge reputation for being more attractive.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Appeal is not about looks but rather about how you wear them. It's the reason decent looking dudes turn women who initially found them attractive off, as soon as they begin interacting with them. The same thing for dudes that are ugly just having a way about them that girls like anyway.

If you're a guy that's simply not ugly and you got that way about you it's game over. You can have any TYPE of girl you want. However if you don't naturally charm, lead, and play with tension cause you're a scared little bitch then you'll still be miserable even if you're able to bag a bitch off looks alone.

You could say that what I'm talking about is cope and doesn't exist but I believe it 100%. Prove me wrong.

 

[jeoyw9192]

Cuz you can go viral on social media because they actually funnel you through an algorithm. So let’s say you’re an htn with a 10% match rate on tinder or whatever
The algorithm can just funnel you so hard that you have so many viewers that it’ll look like you’re some appeal god
They also try to funnel you to girls who would be your type niche
But in reality you don’t get that
You go outside and if 10% fw you, you’re nothing
Vs an actual chadlite with like a 40% rate would go outside and legit girls will say you’re gorgeous etc on a daily basis and plenty will say you’re the best looking they’ve ever seen. Nobody has seen a true CL irl vs an htn to make the distinction. You can tell a guy is a basement dweller if TikTok is the source for gauging appeal
You shouldn’t actually gauge appeal off apps literally designed to funnel people into their niche. That’s the entire reason high mtns blow up

how does the algo do that though specifically, and is there anyone they favor in this regard (I assume since TikTok is China based they favor the whole K-Pop and that stuff, as one example, even though I would say they aren't particularly appealing globally)?

Also ur point is basically distinguishing online vs irl appeal right? Where IRL appeal things like height+frame matter more in addition to face

You have to actually be around a real chadlite irl to know what it is. I’ve been around viral htns who are nothing irl
And actual chadlites.
Also

Cavill obviously isn’t the highest appeal. Where did that even come from

I've seen this reddit post actually, and yeah Delon seems to consistently have very high appeal even against "PSL gods." Also I said Cavill has one of the highest, which I still stand by. Another question with regards to Delon is beyond his looks (objectively I'd say an 8 or so), what makes him more appealing than those above him objectively (keep in mind he isn't tall and has a fairly bad frame as well)?

 

[Blackgymmax]

Blue eyes is usually associated with light colored eyes which is a health indicator tho and blue eyes have a huge reputation for being more attractive.

Blue eyes a health indicator….

 

[jeoyw9192]

Appeal is not about looks but rather about how you wear them. It's the reason decent looking dudes turn women who initially found them attractive off, as soon as they begin interacting with them. The same thing for dudes that are ugly just having a way about them that girls like anyway.

If you're a guy that's simply not ugly and you got that way about you it's game over. You can have any TYPE of girl you want. However if you don't naturally charm, lead, and play with tension cause you're a scared little bitch then you'll still be miserable even if you're able to bag a bitch off looks alone.

You could say that what I'm talking about is cope and doesn't exist but I believe it 100%. Prove me wrong.

Without question tbh yeah; looks obviously get you through the door, but the other aspects you mentioned is what solidifies that. The real question here is "how" in those other aspects

 

[Blackgymmax]

how does the algo do that though specifically, and is there anyone they favor in this regard (I assume since TikTok is China based they favor the whole K-Pop and that stuff, as one example, even though I would say they aren't particularly appealing globally)?

Like if you’re a hood nigga looking guy or the algo deems you like that it will literally show you to just black girls and hood black girls and you would think they’re hood girls only and then I would use them on dating apps and ask girls and they would have regular ass appeal among all races and do pretty solidly (assuming they’re ronelite)
Or like random high Mtns blowing up and then most girls I ask say they look worse than Lorenzo zurzolo or harry raftus

Also ur point is basically distinguishing online vs irl appeal right? Where IRL appeal things like height+frame matter more in addition to face

No because they’ll literally say shit like “you’re the most beautiful man I have ever seen”
You’re gorgeous
All that stuff.
That will happen no matter what your body looks like as a decent CL.

I've seen this reddit post actually, and yeah Delon seems to consistently have very high appeal even against "PSL gods." Also I said Cavill has one of the highest, which I still stand by. Another question with regards to Delon is beyond his looks (objectively I'd say an 8 or so), what makes him more appealing than those above him objectively (keep in mind he isn't tall and has a fairly bad frame as well)?

Also the reason why Delon mogs them is 2 reasons
Congruent factors
Harmony misc dimo ang
if they’re all roughly equal then you will have higher attractiveness than those who are are the same rate but weird combinations
Like cavills features aren’t an 8 but his dimo is like a 9 or something and usually 9 dimo isn’t attractive to women and that’s overkill territory. The most attractive guys are like 8 across the board for whatever reason
Gandys misc feature category is dog shit
Chicos ang and dimo are eh
Stuff like that. It’s just like Delon who’s closer to 8 everything
There’s also guys like Alfredo de la cruz who’s like 9 misc 9 harmony 9 dimo 9 ang or 8.5 ang which makes him extremely attractive. You’d think otherwise because he has this AI look to his face but he’s just an ultra chad

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Without question tbh yeah; looks obviously get you through the door, but the other aspects you mentioned is what solidifies that. The real question here is "how" in those other aspects

What do you mean how in them? How to do them?

 

[jeoyw9192]

Like if you’re a hood nigga looking guy or the algo deems you like that it will literally show you to just black girls and hood black girls and you would think they’re hood girls only and then I would use them on dating apps and ask girls and they would have regular ass appeal among all races and do pretty solidly (assuming they’re ronelite)
Or like random high Mtns blowing up and then most girls I ask say they look worse than Lorenzo zurzolo or harry raftus

No because they’ll literally say shit like “you’re the most beautiful man I have ever seen”
You’re gorgeous
All that stuff.
That will happen no matter what your body looks like as a decent CL.

Also the reason why Delon mogs them is 2 reasons
Congruent factors
Harmony misc dimo ang
if they’re all roughly equal then you will have higher attractiveness than those who are are the same rate but weird combinations
Like cavills features aren’t an 8 but his dimo is like a 9 or something and usually 9 dimo isn’t attractive to women and that’s overkill territory. The most attractive guys are like 8 across the board for whatever reason
Gandys misc feature category is dog shit
Chicos ang and dimo are eh
Stuff like that. It’s just like Delon who’s closer to 8 everything
There’s also guys like Alfredo de la cruz who’s like 9 misc 9 harmony 9 dimo 9 ang or 8.5 ang which makes him extremely attractive. You’d think otherwise because he has this AI look to his face but he’s just an ultra chad

Fair enough; what about someone like De Poot then?

And how does one calculate misc feature category? I would assume Gandy and Delons misc features are around the same, but I guess not?

 

[jeoyw9192]

What do you mean how in them? How to do them?

Yeah like how to actually maintain that attraction beyond just the looks aspect

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Yeah like how to actually maintain that attraction beyond just the looks aspect

1. Develope your own principles about life in general and stick to them.

It might take some time to figure out what they are depending on yourself but thankfully I've never had that problem. Whatever the case they should be yours irrespective of what society values. For instance, I don't give a damn about animals so I crushed a cat's head inside a bathroom stall at the place where my wife of 7 years and I met and worked at before getting married. See how that works out? After killing the cat I immediately went and told a colleague to go look at the bloody mess left in the bathroom stall. See, in women's eyes it doesn't matter that I killed a cat because animals aren't something I value. It doesn't matter if society or other people value them. As long as I'm ready to stand on business telling people I don't care how they feel about it, or impose on anyone who wants to try giving me problems for it I'm good to go. Pick life principles and don't waiver from them.

2. Develop good principles and protocols specifically centered around dealing with women you're persuing romantically and stick to them.

After I turned 18 I never wasted time with women who didn't want to be with me. Learn to tell the difference between when a girl wants to be with you and when she just wants attention. And most girls will have no problem wasting your time for attention. If a girl doesn't want to be with you today she won't want to be with you tomorrow. Cut communication immediately and don't look at her on social media. Be direct about your intention and don't let them waste your time.

Try not to argue with women either. It's super unattractive to them. Beat them as a last resort if they won't be quiet but never argue too much. Learn when to know when to say the conversation is over with. You look like a bitch when a woman can get you to argue with her, or get you to stop what you were doing and go into the other room or something. Learn when to say no to women.

Rule of thumb. If you give women everything they need you don't have to give them anything they want and they'll still be happy. But if you give a woman too much of what she wants or thinks she wants she can only ever be miserable. Learn when to say "no" and don't fear having to do so. Don't ever allow her to wreck your peace for telling her no.

3: Go out and force yourself to deal with people and persue women.

Do these three things and you'll naturally attract women and they'll want to stay with you. You don't have to have status or be liked by people.

 

[Blackgymmax]

Fair enough; what about someone like De Poot then?

Depoot isn’t some psl god. I think that was a new age thing where greys jerked him off

And how does one calculate misc feature category? I would assume Gandy and Delons misc features are around the same, but I guess not?

I have a chart for misc and use my own eyeballing for if someone’s eyes lips nose look stupid
Also health indicators are only 30% of misc
Prime Delon just has some eyebags as a flaw and sparse brows
His misc is easily 8 if not very close
Gandy just always looked like an old man + nose
Overly hooded eyes etc
His misc is like a 6

 

[hopecel]

I mean, that's what the forum is based on.
But when someone says "attraction is relative" Idont believe it 100%, it will depend on the persons mental health, physical health, culture, and "opportunities"
But the "psl" will always be the majority's preference.
@Copercel @hopecel
What I mean is. A girls variation in what is attractive to some will vary, but the pattern will always be almost the same. Biologically, thats it. Thoughts?

good traits are attractive no matter what

but appeal is extremely real and important, OP is clueless

 

[loLyric]

Wouldn’t that just mean they’ve seen more good looking individuals of that race or social media and influence made them think that?

nah

 

[jeoyw9192]

Depoot isn’t some psl god. I think that was a new age thing where greys jerked him off

I have a chart for misc and use my own eyeballing for if someone’s eyes lips nose look stupid
Also health indicators are only 30% of misc
Prime Delon just has some eyebags as a flaw and sparse brows
His misc is easily 8 if not very close
Gandy just always looked like an old man + nose
Overly hooded eyes etc
His misc is like a 6

I mean objectively I'd say hes higher than Delon nowhere near as appealing though.

Could you send the chart, either here or DMs whichever is more convenient? Would be quite helpful

 

[Blackgymmax]

I mean objectively I'd say hes higher than Delon nowhere near as appealing though.

Could you send the chart, either here or DMs whichever is more convenient? Would be quite helpful

He’s not higher than Delon objectively
If you have discord you can add me
Just send me front and side photos of faces and I’ll tell you where they place on the scale
The way I rate is really female gazed like.
Like I don’t give people high features points for having perfect skin brows if somehow their face looks fucking retarded like a lot of people will
And how I rate dimo is a bit diff because I factor neoteny and basically no one can score a 10 in features because neoteny lowers dimo etc
And the most attractive guys sometimes aren’t always rated the highest as you guys do as well. But retarded looking dudes I will never rate high. If someone’s angularity is like a 10 or they have like 9-10 dimo I don’t deduct but it’s less attractive than 7-8 dimo
The most attractive dimo is basically looking like a young man or like 18-25
Ideally like 23