Are Afghans South Asian, Central Asian, or MENA?

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Some look Pakistani, some Iranian, some central asian, etc.

@Jason Voorhees @SecularIslamist @idealistsynth @Swarthy Knight @Lightskin Ethnic
 
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MENA
 
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Some look Pakistani, some Iranian, some central asian, etc.

@Jason Voorhees @SecularIslamist @idealistsynth @Swarthy Knight @Lightskin Ethnic

A mixture. Hazaras look central asian the Tajiks are Persian and then some of them are more south asian looking. I think some of them have some Dravidian or dardic backgrounds
 
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They have aasi and look too Indian to be MENA
They are different looking enough + muslims, so don't associate Afghanistan with curries. Pakistan is an exception cause they are literally the same people as India so they are curry.
 
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I think they’re MENA though
 
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A mixture. Hazaras look central asian the Tajiks are Persian and then some of them are more south asian looking. I think some of them have some Dravidian or dardic backgrounds
Tajiks genetically ain’t Persian at all they are more related to pashtuns their language is Persian but their genetic makeup is majority eastern Iranic not western iranic
 
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They are different looking enough + muslims, so don't associate Afghanistan with curries. Pakistan is an exception cause they are literally the same people as India so they are curry.
Pakis dont look Indian
 
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Dont they look similar to Pakis and Indians from the northern parts
Yeah similar to like Kashmiris or Baloch

Not typical North Indian whatsoever jfl
 
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Pakis dont look Indian
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alot of them look white, no ?
 
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Pakis dont look Indian
yes they do I used to get asked if I was paki when I’m half Dravidian

practically indistinguishable in actual northern regions
 
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yes they do I used to get asked if I was paki when I’m half Dravidian

practically indistinguishable in actual northern regions
You dont pass in Pakistan imo you look like from the southwestern coast of India

Pakis look closer to Persians

I used to see a lot of Persians and thought they were Pakis @yussimania
 
alot of them look white, no ?
Some do because of steppe but its rare way less percentage than turks or levantines
 
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They're Central Asian imo. Since they're at the cross road between South and West Asian
 
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Some look Pakistani, some Iranian, some central asian, etc.

@Jason Voorhees @SecularIslamist @idealistsynth @Swarthy Knight @Lightskin Ethnic

i always put them in the group of indians pakistanis bangladeshis etc

central asia i associated with kazakhs uzbeks etc

MENA is for me the arab countries and iran
 
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i always put them in the group of indians pakistanis bangladeshis etc

central asia i associated with kazakhs uzbeks etc

MENA is for me the arab countries and iran
Yeah they are most similar to Tajiks and Pakis somewhere in between
 
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tajiks are an interesting group
These groups are a mix of Iranic, steppe, a bit of AASI, and Mongol. So you can see any pheno from European looking to Indian to Asian etc
 
Pakis dont look Indian
Most Pakis get confused as Indian abroad bro which is why they so pissed :lul::forcedsmile:

Pakis are primarily Punjabis and they are indistinguishable from NW Indians

A avg. Paki is only distinguishable from the Central, South, East Indians and that's it

Most of it is an overlap @Swarthy Knight

Except a few Iranixs like Baloch, Pashtun, etc (which btw also have people looking like regular Indians)

THEIR BIGGEST MOGGER SALLUDON LOOKS INDIAN AF

YOU WOULD HAVE GUESSED I LOOK MORE "PAKI" THAN AN AVERAGE PAKI
 
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Most Pakis get confused as Indian abroad bro which is why they so pissed :lul::forcedsmile:

Pakis are primarily Punjabis and they are indistinguishable from NW Indians

A avg. Paki is only distinguishable from the Central, South, East Indians and that's it

Most of it is an overlap @Swarthy Knight

Except a few Iranixs like Baloch, Pashtun, etc (which btw also have people looking like regular Indians)

THEIR BIGGEST MOGGER SALLUDON LOOKS INDIAN AF

YOU WOULD HAVE GUESSED I LOOK MORE "PAKI" THAN AN AVERAGE PAKI
I can tell Punjabis from other south Asians
 
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Most Pakis get confused as Indian abroad bro which is why they so pissed :lul::forcedsmile:

Pakis are primarily Punjabis and they are indistinguishable from NW Indians

A avg. Paki is only distinguishable from the Central, South, East Indians and that's it

Most of it is an overlap @Swarthy Knight

Except a few Iranixs like Baloch, Pashtun, etc (which btw also have people looking like regular Indians)

THEIR BIGGEST MOGGER SALLUDON LOOKS INDIAN AF

YOU WOULD HAVE GUESSED I LOOK MORE "PAKI" THAN AN AVERAGE PAKI
True. There are a decent amount of Pakis where I live and they usually look like other curries. Many even mistaken me for one of them ("salam saar are u fasting for Ramadan brudder" :feelshaha:)

I disagree with the Salludon part tho. I didn't even know he was curry at first (thought he was Persian or Arab jfl)
 
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I can tell Punjabis from other south Asians
These pajeets are coping hard. They have an identity crisis. On the one hand, they hate Pakistanis, on the other hand, they want to claim us.

To answer your question — Afghans are southern Central Asians. Most Afghans were MENA-passing, South Asian-passing Afghans are rare.

I did meet a Persian who looked straight up Indian. Like, dindu type. Not even Bollywood type.
 
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True. There are a decent amount of Pakis where I live and they usually look like other curries. Many even mistaken me for one of them ("salam saar are u fasting for Ramadan brudder" :feelshaha:)

I disagree with the Salludon part tho. I didn't even know he was curry at first (thought he was Persian or Arab jfl)
You look very atypical though, you should mention that as well. You’re yellow-ish, and not (dark) brown IIRC.
 
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You look very atypical though, you should mention that as well. You’re yellow-ish, and not (dark) brown IIRC.
@Swarthy Knight why do you larp as Dravidian
 
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These pajeets are coping hard. They have an identity crisis. On the one hand, they hate Pakistanis, on the other hand, they want to claim us.

To answer your question — Afghans are southern Central Asians. Most Afghans were MENA-passing, South Asian-passing Afghans are rare.

I did meet a Persian who looked straight up Indian. Like, dindu type. Not even Bollywood type.


How can they be MENA when most of them look like they have aasi?
 
True. There are a decent amount of Pakis where I live and they usually look like other curries. Many even mistaken me for one of them ("salam saar are u fasting for Ramadan brudder" :feelshaha:)

I disagree with the Salludon part tho. I didn't even know he was curry at first (thought he was Persian or Arab jfl)
Salludon looks Paki afghan or Persian
 
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How can they be MENA when most of them look like they have aasi?

None of these ppl look noticably south Asian imo. Coloring wise maybe, but their pheno is subtly but noticably different
 
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These pakis r coping tbh we look the exact same

I get asked by them if im fasting for ramadan or which part im from and im Dravidian jfl

We look the exact same. Pakis also don’t remotely pass for MENA except for some random groups with diff phenos. Some Punjabi mfs look kinda MENA
 
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It depends on the Afghan ethnicity.
I'm pretty sure Afghan is a nationality, not an ethnicity.

Most of their DNA is Iranic, with North Indian and Central Asian influences.
 
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These pakis r coping tbh we look the exact same

I get asked by them if im fasting for ramadan or which part im from and im Dravidian jfl

We look the exact same. Pakis also don’t remotely pass for MENA except for some random groups with diff phenos. Some Punjabi mfs look kinda MENA
This debate will go on forever and it's compounded by the fact that they don't like each other. And btw it's mainly Indians saying they look like Pakis than vice versa. That should tell you something....

There are clear differences between pakis / Indians in general (emphasis added). I can tell most of them apart. Just because you're mistaken as paki doesn't mean there aren't any differences. I get mistaken too. It just means you're a paki-passing Indian. There are also Indian-passing pakis too. To a lesser extent there is Afghan-passing, Iranians passing etc. These borders weren't created based on phenotypes - no border in the world has been created on such basis. You can even find (light skinned) Indian passing in the MENA region too. Just because there are overlaps in appearances necessary doesn't mean 'muh muh we look the same :forcedsmile:'.

@Gengar
 
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It depends on the Afghan ethnicity.
I'm pretty sure Afghan is a nationality, not an ethnicity.

Most of their DNA is Iranic, with North Indian and Central Asian influences.
They don’t have North Indian influences whatsoever. Their slight South Asian influence comes from the Indus Valley periphery population; who were genetically speaking mostly Neolithic Iranian farmers.. they didn’t directly mix with South Asians.
 
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They don’t have North Indian influences whatsoever. Their slight South Asian influence comes from the Indus Valley periphery population; who were genetically speaking mostly Neolithic Iranian farmers.. they didn’t directly mix with South Asians.
They have aasi up to 20%
 
This debate will go on forever and it's compounded by the fact that they don't like each other. And btw it's mainly Indians saying they look like Pakis than vice versa. That should tell you something....

There are clear differences between pakis / Indians in general (emphasis added). I can tell most of them apart. Just because you're mistaken as paki doesn't mean there aren't any differences. I get mistaken too. It just means you're a paki-passing Indian. There are also Indian-passing pakis too. To a lesser extent there is Afghan-passing, Iranians passing etc. These borders weren't created based on phenotypes - no border in the world has been created on such basis. You can even find (light skinned) Indian passing in the MENA region too. Just because there are overlaps in appearances necessary doesn't mean 'muh muh we look the same :forcedsmile:'.

@Gengar
Indeed, Indians are always doing this; you won’t find the reverse situation unless the Pakistani is of Muhajir descent (Muhajirs are those whose family migrated from India after 1946, but even most of them wouldn’t consider themselves to be Indians, lol). But ngl, even if phenotype isn’t enough to showcase the differences, their genetic results would show it anyway.
 
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They have aasi up to 20%
AASI isn’t entirely accurate as it contains Iran_N, you have to look at SAHG ancestry through qpAdm. But still, they only have SAHG because they mixed with IVCp peoples; who were 70% Iran_N and 30% AASI. They didn’t mix with AASI people directly. And having AASI alone isn’t enough to indicate they’re ethnically South Asian because there are Central Asians and even Arabs who score AASI.
 

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