Are Arabs mulattoes?

[vinn98]

I'm confused about the ethnic origin of Arabs. Are they really just white caucasians who mixed with Africans over a long period of time and resulted in a stable blend?

 

[Tylermax]

well. pastrami smells that's I know for sure

 

[tallnegga]

I'm confused about the ethnic origin of Arabs. Are they really just white caucasians who mixed with Africans over a long period of time and resulted in a stable blend?

No, Arabs are 100 Eurasian. Only Yemen has decent amount of African blood.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

It is said they originate from Yemen. Not sure if this true. Thoughts? @emeraldglass

 

[The Grinch]

I'm confused about the ethnic origin of Arabs. Are they really just white caucasians who mixed with Africans over a long period of time and resulted in a stable blend?

No, bullshit, Arabs are Semitic people, they have nothing to do with Africans

 

[Deleted member 22918]

They are half curries

 

[Deleted member 24507]

Yes, Ishmaelites (so-called Arabs) are mixed with Edomite (so-called White).



Lisaan Al Arab, Chapter 7 page 17

”Soon the Buqaan of Shaam (mixed children from the slave women) will seek to rule you “what is meant here Is the Arabs’ slaves and slave soldiers, they are called that because of their mixed colour, as whiteness and yellowness is the dominant colour amongst them. Al Qutaibi said: “The buq’aan are those who have blackness and whiteness, it is not said abq’a to one who is white without blackness mixed with it, and the meaning is that the Arabs with marry the Roman slave girls then their offspring will rule over shaam and their offspring ( بقعان) together between BLACKNESS of the Arab (Fathers) and the whiteness of their Roman (mothers).” And they are from the Arabs and they are BLACK and from the people of Rome, they are white. And the Arabs never married the Romans before this and the slaves of the Arabs were red skinned. And the Arabs say “The black and the redcame to me, meaning the Arab and the Ajam. He didn’t intend to mean that the children of the slaves are from the Arabs are Buqi’ like the Buqi’ of the crow. He meant that they (the buq’aan) took from the blackness of their fathers (the Arabs) and the whiteness of their mothers (the Romans).’’

لسان العرب ج ٧ ص ١٧

يوشك أن يستعمل عليكم بقعان الشام ” أراد عبيدها ومماليكها ، سموا بذلك لاختلاط ألوانهم ، فإن الغالب عليهم البياض والصفرة . وقال القتيبي : البقعان الذين فيهم سواد وبياض ، ولا يقال لمن كان أبيض من غير سواد يخالطه أبقع ، فكيف يجعل الروم بقعانا وهم بيض خلص ؟ قال : وأرى أبا هريرة أراد أن العرب تنكح إماء الروم فتستعمل عليكم أولاد الإماء ، وهم من بني العرب وهم سود ومن بني الروم وهم بيضولم تكن العرب قبل ذلك تنكح الروم إنما كان إماؤها سودانا ، والعرب تقول : أتاني الأسود والأحمر ، يريدون العرب والعجم ولم يرد أن أولاد الإماء من العرب بقع كبقع الغربان ، وأراد أنهم أخذوا من سواد الآباء وبياض الأمهات






Black Ishmaelite men were having mixed children with their Edomite female slaves and the majority of the Ishmaelites became mixed but the original black Ishmaelites still exists though,

 

[emeraldglass]

It is said they originate from Yemen. Not sure if this true. Thoughts? @emeraldglass

True the original arabs are from Yemen.

Medieval Arab genealogists divided Arabs into three groups:

"Ancient Arabs", tribes that had vanished or been destroyed, such as ʿĀd and Thamud, often mentioned in the Quran as examples of God's power to destroy those who did not believe and follow their prophets and messengers.

Southern Arabia, descending from Qahtan son of Eber (ʿĀbir). Some of the Qahtanites (Qahtanis) are said to have migrated from the land of Yemen following the destruction of the Marib Dam (sadd Ma'rib)

The "Northern Arabs" descending from Ishmael the elder son of Abraham through his descendant Adnan. Such as the ancient tribe of Hawazin, or the modern-day tribes of Otaibah and Mutayr.

 

[ihatereddit]

Nafris are part black, other arabs not so much

 

[Xangsane]

Nafris are part black, other arabs not so much

Some Gulf Arabs as well especially those near Yemen
Saudi too (Afro-Arabs are plentiful in there)

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

True the original arabs are from Yemen.

Medieval Arab genealogists divided Arabs into three groups:

"Ancient Arabs", tribes that had vanished or been destroyed, such as ʿĀd and Thamud, often mentioned in the Quran as examples of God's power to destroy those who did not believe and follow their prophets and messengers.

Southern Arabia, descending from Qahtan son of Eber (ʿĀbir). Some of the Qahtanites (Qahtanis) are said to have migrated from the land of Yemen following the destruction of the Marib Dam (sadd Ma'rib)

The "Northern Arabs" descending from Ishmael the elder son of Abraham through his descendant Adnan. Such as the ancient tribe of Hawazin, or the modern-day tribes of Otaibah and Mutayr.

That’s interesting! So not all Arabs descend from Ismael but rather the Northern Arabs? Have you considered taking a DNA test by the way? Or are you uninterested in those.

 

[emeraldglass]

That’s interesting! So not all Arabs descend from Ismael but rather the Northern Arabs? Have you considered taking a DNA test by the way? Or are you uninterested in those.

I know my mother's lineage all the way back to Adam. From my father not really so maybe in the future.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

I know my mother's lineage all the way back to Adam. From my father not really so maybe in the future.

Adam?! How? Did you guys keep a record of it?

 

[emeraldglass]

Adam?! How? Did you guys keep a record of it?

I descend from the Prophet through my mother's side, I know my ancestors down to the Prophet. From the prophet his ancestors are known again down to Adam.

 

[Deleted member 21467]

I'm confused about the ethnic origin of Arabs. Are they really just white caucasians who mixed with Africans over a long period of time and resulted in a stable blend?

gigachad

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

I descend from the Prophet through my mother's side, I know my ancestors down to the Prophet. From the prophet his ancestors are known again down to Adam.

Interesting! We are going to need your DNA to expose all the so-called Syeds and Qureshis of Pakistan. They claim Arabic heritage but they don’t look different from the average Vignesh.

 

[emeraldglass]

Interesting! We are going to need your DNA to expose all the so-called Syeds and Qureshis of Pakistan. They claim Arabic heritage but they don’t look different from the average Vignesh.

There are descendants of the prophet in Pakistan 100%, but they must be able to prove it with their family history. I can now name everyone for you from my ancestors to Hassan and then Ali and Fatima and then the Prophet.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

There are descendants of the prophet in Pakistan 100%, but they must be able to prove it with their family history. I can now name everyone for you from my ancestors to Hassan and then Ali and Fatima and then the Prophet.

So they’re not LARPing? I always chuckle in the back of my head whenever a Pakistani goes “I am a Syed,” or “I am a Qureshi.” Syed comes from sayyid. Qureshi comes from Quraish.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

There are descendants of the prophet in Pakistan 100%, but they must be able to prove it with their family history. I can now name everyone for you from my ancestors to Hassan and then Ali and Fatima and then the Prophet.

I can’t even go back 200 years ago meanwhile you can go back at least 1400 years. Mirin akhi.

 

[emeraldglass]

I can’t even go back 200 years ago meanwhile you can go back at least 1400 years. Mirin akhi.

It's only because I'm descended from the prophet. If you asked me to name ancestors from my father's side 300 years ago, I wouldn't be able to do it either.

 

[andy9432]

It's only because I'm descended from the prophet. If you asked me to name ancestors from my father's side 300 years ago, I wouldn't be able to do it either.

No archeological or Islamic manuscript evidence (including the Qur'an) can verify the ancestry of Muhammad and prove his genealogical descent from Ishmael.

 

[sunbirdwhosings]

I descend from the Prophet through my mother's side, I know my ancestors down to the Prophet. From the prophet his ancestors are known again down to Adam.

wouldn’t that mean you come from the house of hashem/بنو هاشم?

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

It's only because I'm descended from the prophet. If you asked me to name ancestors from my father's side 300 years ago, I wouldn't be able to do it either.

Perhaps a DNA test is in order? You could get an idea of how and what.

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

wouldn’t that mean you come from the house of hashem/بنو هاشم?

You could have probably only written Banu Hashem alone, he can read Arabic.

 

[emeraldglass]

wouldn’t that mean you come from the house of hashem/بنو هاشم?

Yes

 

[sunbirdwhosings]

Yes

lmfao, that would make us cousins (albeit really distant ones). i descend from hussein on my fathers side

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

Yes

So you have multiple houses. You must be rich!

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

lmfao, that would make us cousins (albeit really distant ones). i descend from hussein on my fathers side

From medieval Banu Hashem warrior against the polytheists to 21st century anime enjoyer.

 

[sunbirdwhosings]

From medieval Banu Hashem warrior against the polytheists to 21st century anime enjoyer.

i fucking hate مشركين too. im not particularly devout but i take my lineage seriously

 

[Ghost Philosophy]

i fucking hate مشركين too. im not particularly devout but i take my lineage seriously

Can we label them as mushrikeen though? It’s not like they have deities, do they? I could be wrong. I know China does have cities dedicated to “gods.” Why are you not devout? I think you would gain more credits if you were to be more devout. By taking your lineage seriously, you should also start becoming devout. That would be the best.

 

[sunbirdwhosings]

Can we label them as mushrikeen though? It’s not like they have deities, do they? I could be wrong. I know China does have cities dedicated to “gods.” Why are you not devout? I think you would gain more credits if you were to be more devout. By taking your lineage seriously, you should also start becoming devout. That would be the best.

reverted to islam recently after having left for most of my life so im still getting the hang of it i guess.

learning about my family history (which was only somewhat recent btw) has definitely made me more devout though, but i try not to take it TOO seriously bc tribalism is retarded and haram anyways iirc.

 

[emeraldglass]

No archeological or Islamic manuscript evidence (including the Qur'an) can verify the ancestry of Muhammad and prove his genealogical descent from Ishmael.

570 CE – Muhammad
545 CE – Abdullah
497 CE – Shaybah (Abd al-Muttalib)
464 CE – Hashim
439 CE – Abd Manaf
406 CE – Qusayy
373 CE – Kilab
340 CE – Murrah
307 CE – Ka'b
274 CE – Lu'ayy
241 CE – Ghalib
208 CE – Fihr
175 CE – Malik
142 CE – An-Nadr (Quraysh)
109 CE – Kinanah
76 CE – Khuzaimah
43 CE – Mudrikah
10 CE – Ilyas
23 BCE – Mudar
56 BCE – Nizar
89 BCE – Ma'add
122 BCE – Adnan

from Adnan to Ismail, the exact lineage is disputed. There are many different records, there are two prevailing theories about which son of Ismail Adnan is descended from. The first is that he was descended from Qedar. The second theory is that he was descended from Nabut, the eldest son.

Ishmael
Ibrahim
Ta'rih (Azar)
Tahur
Shahru’
Abraghu
Falikh
Abir
Shalikh
Arfakshad
Sam
Nuh[9]
Lumik
Mutu Shalkh
Akhnukh (Idris)
Yarid
Mahla'il
Qainan
Anush
Sheeth
Adam

 

[emeraldglass]

lmfao, that would make us cousins (albeit really distant ones). i descend from hussein on my fathers side

I come from Hassan