Are close set eyes ideal?

[ahouzeh18]

This is gonna sound like IPDcel cope, but I've personally noticed that a lot of the most simped-over male celebrities have slightly close set eyes. Zayn Malik, Ian Somerhalder, Zac Efron, Theo James, etc. Their ES ratio are somewhere around 0.40 to 0.43. Is there a correlation? Subhuman Marko Jaric even somehow pulled Adriana Lima, but that's probably more due to height and status pill.

 

[dolphlundgren]

No, but this definitely means that IPD itself isn't a big deal. If you morphed these men into having a normal ESR/IPD, their appeal would be the exact same

 

[dolphlundgren]

I've heard ridiculous takes like "you can't be lite+ with a bad ipd" a lot

 

[ahouzeh18]

I've heard ridiculous takes like "you can't be lite+ with a bad ipd" a lot

Makes sense.
How does this apply to mid face ratio? is having a low mid face ratio as a result of close set eyes a failo? Or is it not a big deal as well?

 

[dolphlundgren]

Makes sense.
How does this apply to mid face ratio? is having a low mid face ratio as a result of close set eyes a failo? Or is it not a big deal as well?

if there is nothing to balance out the long midface ratio, then it's going to deduct. again, i don't think it is a big deal, but now if you morph someone with a long midface into compact midface, his appeal will go up quite a bit

 

[dolphlundgren]

I think this is the ideal way of measuring the distance between eyes. Zayn Malik technically has "close-set eyes", but it's barely noticable even after knowing about his IPD. The reason being is because his intercanthal distance isn't much lower than his bizygomatic width. Actually, if there's not much gap between your lateral canthus and your zygomatic bone, you're gonna be fine

 

[greycel]

if there is nothing to balance out the long midface ratio, then it's going to deduct. again, i don't think it is a big deal, but now if you morph someone with a long midface into compact midface, his appeal will go up quite a bit

Not always.

Arvid morphed with a smalled midface would still be in ideal range, and maybe more preferred on paper.. but he benefits from the DOM appearance of a slightly longer midface.

I think this is the ideal way of measuring the distance between eyes. Zayn Malik technically has "close-set eyes", but it's barely noticable even after knowing about his IPD. The reason being is because his intercanthal distance isn't much lower than his bizygomatic width. Actually, if there's not much gap between your lateral canthus and your zygomatic bone, you're gonna be fine

Yea ESR is more relative to one's skull.
Whilst IPD is an objective measurement.
The only problem is that when you are next to other people, in a relative frame.. having a smaller IPD will look neotonous and weird.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

I do think it's better than wide set eyes for males

Maybe not for models or if you're trying to go for a "psl god" look (which you'll never achieve) or prettyboy look, but irl to be classically handsome close set is better than wide set

 

[dolphlundgren]

Not always.
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Arvid morphed with a smalled midface would still be in ideal range, and maybe more preferred on paper.. but he benefits from the DOM appearance of a slightly longer midface.


Yea ESR is more relative to one's skull.
Whilst IPD is an objective measurement.
The only problem is that when you are next to other people, in a relative frame.. having a smaller IPD will look neotonous and weird.

man I told y'all "if there's nothing to balance out". Arvid has wide zygos, good overall skull height and width, ideal eye spacing and many other features that a long midface alone can't cancel out

 

[dolphlundgren]

I do think it's better than wide set eyes for males

Maybe not for models or if you're trying to go for a "psl god" look (which you'll never achieve) or prettyboy look, but irl to be classically handsome close set is better than wide set

There are "psl gods" with close-set eyes

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

close eyes are more masc, wide apart eyes are more pretty-boyish

 

[dolphlundgren]

Not always.
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Arvid morphed with a smalled midface would still be in ideal range, and maybe more preferred on paper.. but he benefits from the DOM appearance of a slightly longer midface.


Yea ESR is more relative to one's skull.
Whilst IPD is an objective measurement.
The only problem is that when you are next to other people, in a relative frame.. having a smaller IPD will look neotonous and weird.

ESR is a shit measurement, because interpupilary distance doesn't say a lot about your eye spacing. "Oh look how close together this guy's pupils are" you probably think normies say to each other. But human eye doesn't work this way. The first thing that subconsciously throws off the appearance of eye area is how far the overall eye looks (from medial to lateral canthus) from the widest portion of one's face (zygos). I already shared a pic above on how I suggest measuring one's eye spacing

 

[optimisticzoomer]

There are "psl gods" with close-set eyes

Yeah but not models
I mean like opry and barrett

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

Subhuman Marko Jaric even somehow pulled Adriana Lima, but that's probably more due to height and status pill.

100% height-pill, lima is nigh 6'0 tall so she is heavily height-pilled

theres this video with her being bubbly and flirty with a recessed ltn just because he's taller than her:

 

[dolphlundgren]

Yeah but not models
I mean like opry and barrett

Being a model has fuck all to do with what's attractive to women. I mean yea, there is correlation, but honestly it isn't that strong

 

[ahouzeh18]

ESR is a shit measurement, because interpupilary distance doesn't say a lot about your eye spacing.

Makes sense. I have a normal IPD of about 64-65 mm, but my slightly wide face (14.6-14.8 cm) makes my ES ratio around 0.44, which is pretty close set on paper, but they don't look close set, at least based on what others have told me.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Being a model has fuck all to do with what's attractive to women. I mean yea, there is correlation, but honestly it isn't that strong

I know, which is why I said close set is better than wide set

I'm just saying the dalits on here worship a look that looks somewhat alien, with wider set eyes

 

[dolphlundgren]

Makes sense. I have a normal IPD of about 64-65 mm, but my slightly wide face (14.6-14.8 cm) makes my ES ratio around 0.44, which is pretty close set on paper, but they don't look close set, at least based on what others have told me.

0.44 is ever so slightly outside the ideal range. You gotta check out my eye area at 0.425 esr

 

[dolphlundgren]

I know, which is why I said close set is better than wide set

I'm just saying the dalits on here worship a look that looks somewhat alien, with wider set eyes

yea man, fuck all these psl copers

 

[dolphlundgren]

 

[ahouzeh18]

0.44 is ever so slightly outside the ideal range. You gotta check out my eye area at 0.425 esr

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That's you? If so, i would guess your ES ratio to be like 0.45-0.46. Doesn't look close set at all.

 

[dolphlundgren]

That's you? If so, i would guess your ES ratio to be like 0.45-0.46. Doesn't look close set at all.

yea man, that's me. what do u rate btw?

 

[ahouzeh18]

yea man, that's me. what do u rate btw?

I would confidently say medium HTN. I've been rated a strong MTN and you mog me hard

 

[dolphlundgren]

I would confidently say medium HTN. I've been rated a strong MTN and you mog me hard

how is it a hard mog if I am only 0.5 points above?

 

[Zherko]

Yes close set is the way to go

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

This is gonna sound like IPDcel cope, but I've personally noticed that a lot of the most simped-over male celebrities have slightly close set eyes. Zayn Malik, Ian Somerhalder, Zac Efron, Theo James, etc. Their ES ratio are somewhere around 0.40 to 0.43. Is there a correlation? Subhuman Marko Jaric even somehow pulled Adriana Lima, but that's probably more due to height and status pill.

if you don't have very narrow hooded eyes and your eyes are close set its pretty much death tier

 

[ahouzeh18]

if you don't have very narrow hooded eyes and your eyes are close set its pretty much death tier

So pretty much like Chris hemsworth, right?
also, does ESR change with weight loss? Mine is about 0.44 now but I'm a fatcel at 25% bf.

 

[yeahyux21]

This is gonna sound like IPDcel cope, but I've personally noticed that a lot of the most simped-over male celebrities have slightly close set eyes. Zayn Malik, Ian Somerhalder, Zac Efron, Theo James, etc. Their ES ratio are somewhere around 0.40 to 0.43. Is there a correlation? Subhuman Marko Jaric even somehow pulled Adriana Lima, but that's probably more due to height and status pill.

No

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

So pretty much like Chris hemsworth, right?
also, does ESR change with weight loss? Mine is about 0.44 now but I'm a fatcel at 25% bf.

yeah if you have bug eyes close set its very bad compared to bug eyes and wide set

you will look like inbred

 

[Funnyunenjoyer1]

So pretty much like Chris hemsworth, right?
also, does ESR change with weight loss? Mine is about 0.44 now but I'm a fatcel at 25% bf.

no it doesn't change with weightloss it might make it look different but it doesn't change

 

[thebuffdon690]

I've heard ridiculous takes like "you can't be lite+ with a bad ipd" a lot

The retard who is @Clavicular says this lol

 

[dolphlundgren]

The retard who is @Clavicular says this lol

did he say sm like dat?

 

[thebuffdon690]

did he say sm like dat?

Yeh he said that exact same thing lol

 

[dolphlundgren]

Yeh he said that exact same thing lol

I haven't heard it from him tho, retards like that are common in discord servers