Are long ramus/square gonions a requirement for an aesthetic lower face?

[politically correct]

Given that you cant lengthen your ramus with BIMAX or make your gonion more angular, I was wondering how much having a naturally rounded gonion in combination with long ramus really matters to aesthetics? There seems to be a lot of very good looking people who have one but not the other, although the common feature seems to be long mandible and excellent forward growth

Below are a few examples of celebrities regarded as highly attractive without both super long ramus as well as square prominent gonions
- Jake Gyllenhaal
- Leonardo Di Caprio
- Ryan Reynolds
- Ryan Gosling
- Idris Elba
- George Clooney (great gonial angle and square gonion but ramus not super long)
- Even David Gandy doesnt have a super prominent gonion

 

[FrenchChad]

Tall ramus is very rare, you can be extremely good looking without a tall ramus however this is undeniably an attractive trait.
Some peoples may need a tall ramus for a better harmony, if you have longish midface a tall ramus and a tall chin would balances it out by adding height to the lower third.

It's like high PFL, if you don't have it it won't failo you too much unless it's extreme but if you have it it will be a massive halo.

 

[Deleted member 20631]

Sidewing and jaw widening