Are somalis black?

[DharkDC]

They got wavy hair and Caucasian bone structure.

 

[DharkDC]

@Toodlydood

 

[Deleted member 6273]

They are Caucasoid but most people in the west will call them black. Same thing with other horners. for example these guys are eritrean and ethiopian respectively but everyone will just call them black anyway. That's why race (black,white,arab etc) is not a scientific classification.

 

[Deleted member 7697]

They got Arab blood but the black

 

[hairyballscel]

they do not have a "european" bone structure, there bone structure is african

somalis are black

 

[hairyballscel]

They are Caucasoid

source or cope

 

[DharkDC]

i've always seen somalis and ethiopians in the same tier as curries and arabs/turks

 

[Deleted member 6273]

source or cope

These guys are ethiopids.

"Ethiopids were typically classified as a Caucasoid (Europid) subrace.[3] According to John Baker (1974), in their stable form, their center of distribution was considered to be Horn of Africa, among that region's Hamito-Semitic-speaking populations.[1] "

Ethiopid phenotype

 

[Deleted member 5393]

they are white

 

[Deleted member 10491]

you should've used the that boy is a monster song tbh

 

[Deleted member 6273]

i've always seen somalis and ethiopians in the same tier as curries and arabs/turks

Not really they are basically a mix between proto ethiopid groups and have some north african ad mixture. I would say they are a unique group honestly.

 

[hairyballscel]

These guys are ethiopids.

"Ethiopids were typically classified as a Caucasoid (Europid) subrace.[3] According to John Baker (1974), in their stable form, their center of distribution was considered to be Horn of Africa, among that region's Hamito-Semitic-speaking populations.[1] "

Ethiopid phenotype
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thats not a source, all genetic studies show somalis are mostly of african ancestry, your citing outdated literature, the same kinda science that once argued dinkas and shilluk are caucasoid

 

[Deleted member 6273]

they do not have a "european" bone structure, there bone structure is african

somalis are black

Caucasoid doesn't mean European. "The Caucasian race (also Caucasoid[a] or Europid)[2] is an outdated[3] grouping of human beings historically regarded as a biological taxon which, depending on which of the historical race classifications is used, has usually included ancient and modern populations from all or parts of Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa."

 

[Deleted member 9699]

They're obviously African, so yes they're black.

I don't understand why there's such a deep debate on this jfl. You can tell with one glance that their genetic profile is made up of predominantly African genetics.

 

[DharkDC]

They're obviously African, so yes they're black.

I don't understand why there's such a deep debate on this jfl. You can tell with one glance that their genetic profile is made up of predominantly African genetics.

this guy is morrocan, so he must be black as well, right?

 

[Deleted member 6273]

thats not a source, all genetic studies show somalis are mostly of african ancestry, your citing outdated literature, the same kinda science that once argued dinkas and shilluk are caucasoid

Arican ancestry is very diverse, surely you don't thin dinkas, khoids and sudanids are the same group.

 

[hairyballscel]

Caucasoid doesn't mean European. "The Caucasian race (also Caucasoid[a] or Europid)[2] is an outdated[3] grouping of human beings historically regarded as a biological taxon which, depending on which of the historical race classifications is used, has usually included ancient and modern populations from all or parts of Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa."

do u know what ur citing?

it literally says "outdated"

and most authors used "white race" or "Europid" and caucasian interchangeably

 

[Deleted member 9699]

this guy is morrocan, so he must be black as well
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He's definitely mostly African. As for Moroccans, they're a pretty diverse group, but you can tell he has Caucasoid features.

He's not as black as Somalis for example, but he still is more black than the average European.

 

[hairyballscel]

Arican ancestry is very diverse, surely you don't thin dinkas, khoids and sudanids are the same group.

thats not what i said, but either way, all genetic studies point to somalis being of mostly african ancestry

 

[Deleted member 4209]

they look huwhite to me!

 

[goat2x]

Nah they are currycels

 

[Deleted member 6273]

@Muktar

 

[Gengar]

somalis and east africans as a whole are definitely black. they may have caucasian bone structure but that doesnt make them non-black. realistically speaking, most "black people" are simply dark brown. its a dumb term to begin with. therefore we can also conclude that bbc is really big brown cock

 

[6’1cel]

They got wavy hair and Caucasian bone structure.
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they don’t have caucasian skull lol
yes they are black

 

[6’1cel]

somalis and east africans as a whole are definitely black. they may have caucasian bone structure but that doesnt make them non-black. realistically speaking, most "black people" are simply dark brown. its a dumb term to begin with. therefore we can also conclude that bbc is really big brown cock

they don’t have caucasian skulls they have somali skulls
they might resemble arabs a bit but arabs aren’t caucasian anyway

 

[Pillarman]

i've always seen somalis and ethiopians in the same tier as curries and arabs/turks

turks look mostly human nowadays, clearly distinguishable from negros and curries

 

[TheChosenChad]

Pheno types make more sense then race tbh. Especially when the definitions for what is white and black have changed.

 

[Deleted member 6273]

they don’t have caucasian skulls they have somali skulls
they might resemble arabs a bit but arabs aren’t caucasian anyway

caucasoid

 

[NaturalDisaster]

these guys are eritrean and ethiopian respectively but everyone will just call them black anyway

since when being eritrean and ethiopian isn't considered being black?

 

[6’1cel]

caucasoid

arabs arent caucasoid my man
somalis are black stop coping

 

[NaturalDisaster]

arabs arent caucasoid my man
somalis are black stop coping

totally not black by his standards

 

[Deleted member 6273]

arabs arent caucasoid my man
somalis are black stop coping

1. Black isn't a scientific, current or even ancient anthropoogical description of humans.

2. Arabs and horn africans are indeed caucasoid by the description of several anthropologist

Caucasian race - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Deleted member 6273]

totally not black by his standards

The ethiopian manlets are caucasoid, the dark kenyan nigga is nilotid. I would call them both black (not a scientific term btw) but there is a significant genetic distance between them.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

The ethiopian manlets are caucasoid, the dark kenyan nigga is nilotid. I would call them both black (not a scientific term btw) but there is a significant genetic distance between them.

ofc lol, still black. you can't say that's weird to call them blacks.

 

[Pillarman]

All of this retarded discussion because some retarded simp German scientist decided a Georgian girl's skull was perfect so he created the caucasian race bullshit

 

[hairyballscel]

1. Black isn't a scientific, current or even ancient anthropoogical description of humans.

2. Arabs and horn africans are indeed caucasoid by the description of several anthropologist

Caucasian race - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

1. caucasoid isn't a scientific description/classification of humans

2. ur continuously citing wikipedia which is a bullshit source, do you understand that horn of africans being called caucasoid was based on racist ideas that africans lack diveristy and that africans are too stupid to develop civilisation? vast majority of geneticists today would say you are 100% wrong

these anthropological ideas were created at a time when genetic studies werent available, you have no idea what ur citing, you say "africans are diverse" but what you cite isnt congruent with that idea

 

[Deleted member 9090]

They got wavy hair and Caucasian bone structure.
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''caucasian bone structure''

 

[Deleted member 6273]

1. caucasoid isn't a scientific description/classification of humans

2. ur continuously citing wikipedia which is a bullshit source, do you understand that horn of africans being called caucasoid was based on racist ideas that africans lack diveristy and that africans are too stupid to develop civilisation? vast majority of geneticists today would say you are 100% wrong

these anthropological ideas were created at a time when genetic studies werent available, you have no idea what ur citing, you say "africans are diverse" but what you cite isnt congruent with that idea

Fair

Link the genetic studies, I'm trying to see something.

 

[DharkDC]

''caucasian bone structure''

regardless, they don't have curly dry hair, natural born wavy hair. I just think of them like darkskin curries.

 

[hairyballscel]

Fair

Link the genetic studies, I'm trying to see something.

African populations are underrepresented in medical genomics studies. For the Somali population, there is virtually no information on genomic markers with significance to precision medicine. Here, we analyzed nearly 900,000 genomic markers in samples collected from 95 unrelated individuals in the North Eastern Somalia. ADMIXTURE program for estimation of individual ancestries revealed a homogenous Somali population. Principal component analysis with PLINK software showed approximately 60% East African and 40% West Eurasian genes in the Somali population, with a close relation to the Cushitic and Semitic speaking Ethiopian populations.

- Genome-wide analyses disclose the distinctive HLA architecture and the pharmacogenetic landscape of the Somali population

- Ancient west Eurasian ancestry in southern and eastern Africa

look up mtdna and y dna in somalis, they are mostly african, just like there autosmal dna


The fact that the Ethiopians and Somalis have a subset of the sub-Saharan African haplotype diversity and that the non-African populations have a subset of the diversity present in Ethiopians and Somalis makes simple-admixture models less likely; rather, these observations support the hypothesis proposed by other nuclear-genetic studies that populations in northeastern Africa may have diverged from those in the rest of sub-Saharan Africa early in the history of modern African populations and that a subset of this northeastern-African population migrated out of Africa and populated the rest of the globe.

 

[Deleted member 6380]

It doesn't matter. My skull is caucasoid and it gave me a big forehead. Sure, my iq is higher than the average negroid, but at what cost?

Also somalis are somali, currys are curry, arabs are arabs, blacks are blacks, whites are whites and so on (and russians are russian tbh)

 

[Deleted member 6380]

they are white

This.

 

[CsCurry]

One of these is not like the other. Somalis just look like regular black people. idk what all the Wierd cope in this is about

 

[Deleted member 7697]

Somalias are honorary aryans

 

[DharkDC]

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One of these is not like the other. Somalis just look like regular black people. idk what all the Wierd cope in this is about

no they don't. They look like a darkskin version of this

 

[Gengar]

they don’t have caucasian skulls they have somali skulls
they might resemble arabs a bit but arabs aren’t caucasian anyway

arabs are classified as semitic which itself is a subclassification of caucasians.

 

[Deleted member 9344]

They got wavy hair and Caucasian bone structure.
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Yes we are 'black'. Somalis & other Horners are an ancient admixed population with significant West Eurasian (MENA) ancestry from ancient Neolithic back-migrations. It is primarily associated with the Natufians who lived in the Levant & the Afro-Asiatic expansion during the Neolithic period (10,000-5,000 years ago). Autosomal studies have proven that Somalis & other Cushitic populations are ~40% ancient North African-Middle Eastern (Afro-Asiatic) & ~60% indigenous East African (Proto-Nilotic) and possibly to a lesser extent some extinct hunter-gatherer (Khoisan/Omotic types).

 

[Deleted member 9344]

@Muktar

Thanks for tagging me boyo.

 

[CsCurry]

no they don't. They look like a darkskin version of this

Look closer to regular black people to me