are supplements really cope ?

[Eezz]

Just wanna take vit c for skin gains, vitamin D since i dont get out to the sun often and zinc for test maxing
are those cope ?

 

[Deleted member 10172]

Yes they are all cope but Vitamin D3 is cheap so you can buy it if u want to

 

[Deleted member 5927]

I take them anyway I feel kinda exactly the same tbh just remember supplements are the type of shit large companies sell to the masses as walmart and pretty much everyone who takes them is an oldcel or a coping single mom.

so yeah it's probably cope and I wish it actually did shit but I feel the same.

 

[Eezz]

Yes they are all cope but Vitamin D3 is cheap so you can buy it if u want to

so like when taking a 1000mg vitamin c pill does the body just throw it ? why wouldnt absorb like vit c in orange ?

 

[Satan]

Biotin is no cope it does stop hairloss makes your nails grow way too fast at high dosage and slightly accelerates hair growth
Zinc makes the quality of your skin/nails better
Never suplemented with vit C/D only but multivitamin can give you a bit of a boost

 

[Eezz]

I take them anyway I feel kinda exactly the same tbh just remember supplements are the type of shit large companies sell to the masses as walmart and pretty much everyone who takes them is an oldcel or a coping single mom.

so yeah it's probably cope and I wish it actually did shit but I feel the same.

tbh I just dont understand how can they be cope since a lot of people say they are cope why wouldnt the body absorb vitamines from the supplement but absorb it from food

 

[Deleted member 1476]

I take a multivitamin and it does give me a bit more energy

 

[6ft8InTheNetherlands]

Wrong.

Liposomal vit c
l-citruline
magnesium citrate
zinc pico/citrate
omega 3
d3 and k2
creatine
boron

are all very important for men.

 

[Eezz]

Wrong.

Liposomal vit c
l-citruline
magnesium citrate
zinc pico/citrate
omega 3
d3 and k2
creatine
boron

are all very important for men.

Man i know these are important but will supplementing them actually work and your body gets them or is it just cope

 

[Satan]

Man i know these are important but will supplementing them actually work and your body gets them or is it just cope

omega 3 for example in dosage of 1-2g 60% EPA and 40%DHA can help alievate depression

 

[AutisticBeaner]

i felt much better after taking vitamin d, my bones feel more rigid and denser too

 

[CommanderCope]

vitamin D should always be supplemented. Most of the world is actually deficient. Everything else is mostly cope/you can get from normal food.

 

[Eezz]

vitamin D should always be supplemented. Most of the world is actually deficient. Everything else is mostly cope/you can get from normal food.

i felt much better after taking vitamin d, my bones feel more rigid and denser too

But does that vit d get acually absorbed by the body every one seem to be seeing its doesnt

 

[AutisticBeaner]

But does that vit d get acually absorbed by the body every one seem to be seeing its doesnt

why wouldn't it?

 

[Eezz]

why wouldn't it?

Low bioavailability

5 Reasons Your Body Isn't Absorbing Your Vitamins | Calton Nutrition

“I’ve recently read that a multivitamin is a waste of money and that all it is giving me is expensive urine. Is this true?” This is a question we have been asked thousands of times.

www.caltonnutrition.com

 

[Deleted member 6111]

I have a supplement called beauty sleep from myvitamins which contains zinc and magnesium and i sleep like a baby with extremely vivid dreams. Take that as evidence zinc does something at least

 

[AutisticBeaner]

Low bioavailability

5 Reasons Your Body Isn't Absorbing Your Vitamins | Calton Nutrition

“I’ve recently read that a multivitamin is a waste of money and that all it is giving me is expensive urine. Is this true?” This is a question we have been asked thousands of times.

www.caltonnutrition.com

you just gotta take it with a fatty meal. you might not quite get 5000 iu out of a 5000 iu supplement but at least for me it still made a large difference.

 

[DrTony]

Just wanna take vit c for skin gains, vitamin D since i dont get out to the sun often and zinc for test maxing
are those cope ?

I remain UNCONVINCED that sun exposure directly increases activated vit D3 (1,25(OH)2D) which is what mediates all the downstream VDR transcriptional effect in nearly every tissue. Sure, sun increases the storage form of vit D3 25(OH)Dwhich is what most labs measure as a marker of vitamin D sufficiency but remember 25(OH)D is useless. It is NOT biologically active, it is a pro-hormone and needs to be enzymatically converted to the active form.

Meaning a person can have low-ish 25(OH)D in serum (20-25 ng/ml range) but have superior ability to convert this low storage form to the active form (1,25(OH)2D). And vice versa of course


Now what regulates this conversion. Scientists are not entirely sure. It could be down to genetic variation or influenced by gut microbiota or some other unidentified factor.

PS. And yes most supplements on the market are in fact cope. It is also an unregulated industry.

 

[Eezz]

I remain UNCONVINCED that sun exposure directly increases activated vit D3 (1,25(OH)2D) which is what mediates all the downstream VDR transcriptional effect in nearly every tissue. Sure, sun increases the storage form of vit D3 25(OH)Dwhich is what most labs measure as a marker of vitamin D sufficiency but remember 25(OH)D is useless. It is NOT biologically active, it is a pro-hormone and needs to be enzymatically converted to the active form.

Meaning a person can have low-ish 25(OH)D in serum (20-25 ng/ml range) but have superior ability to convert this low storage form to the active form (1,25(OH)2D). And vice versa of course


Now what regulates this conversion. Scientists are not entirely sure. It could be down to genetic variation or influenced by gut microbiota or some other unidentified factor.

PS. And yes most supplements on the market are in fact cope. It is also an unregulated industry.

Tbh I see. It kinda resembles balding and how its has more to do with the sensitivity of the dht receptors than dht directly.so the raw quantity of vit d doesnt really matter and it has more to do with the conversion of it.but lets say i can convert well to the active form but have a low storage of 25(OH)D will supplementing vit d increase my 25(OH)D and therefore increase the quantity of its active form ?

 

[LilJojo]

Just wanna take vit c for skin gains, vitamin D since i dont get out to the sun often and zinc for test maxing
are those cope ?

It's cope if you don't have a deficiency in that type of vitamin/mineral

 

[Chinacurry]

I think most are cope but I stand by a few:

Zinc,
Creatine,
whey isolate,
Pre workout (caffeine, citrulline, beta alanine),
CLA,
Carnitine,
Ephedrine

 

[Deleted member 7901]

Yes they are all cope but Vitamin D3 is cheap so you can buy it if u want to

supplements are a semi cope, if you are actually deficient then it can quite help you with energy and even deperssion (basically mainly mental stuff)
also they are better when taken long-term, however everyone who expects to just grow a chad jawline or some shit like that
is retarded

 

[DrTony]

Tbh I see. It kinda resembles balding and how its has more to do with the sensitivity of the dht receptors than dht directly.so the raw quantity of vit d doesnt really matter and it has more to do with the conversion of it.but lets say i can convert well to the active form but have a low storage of 25(OH)D will supplementing vit d increase my 25(OH)D and therefore increase the quantity of its active form ?

Supplement would only increase the storage form of vitd3. It would do absolutely nothing with your ability to convert it to the active form.

 

[AutisticBeaner]

It's cope if you don't have a deficiency in that type of vitamin/mineral

supplements are a semi cope, if you are actually deficient then it can quite help you with energy and even deperssion (basically mainly mental stuff)
also they are better when taken long-term, however everyone who expects to just grow a chad jawline or some shit like that
is retarded

how does this make sense? why would it only work when you have little amount of it in your body naturally?

 

[Deleted member 7901]

how does this make sense? why would it only work when you have little amount of it in your body naturally?

low IQ question tbh

 

[AutisticBeaner]

low IQ question tbh

low iq response. answer it then

 

[Deleted member 7901]

low iq response. answer it then

when building something not having enough resources can fuck up the process
but after you have exactly enough, any extra resource will just go to waste

 

[TITUS]

I remain UNCONVINCED that sun exposure directly increases activated vit D3 (1,25(OH)2D) which is what mediates all the downstream VDR transcriptional effect in nearly every tissue. Sure, sun increases the storage form of vit D3 25(OH)Dwhich is what most labs measure as a marker of vitamin D sufficiency but remember 25(OH)D is useless. It is NOT biologically active, it is a pro-hormone and needs to be enzymatically converted to the active form.

Meaning a person can have low-ish 25(OH)D in serum (20-25 ng/ml range) but have superior ability to convert this low storage form to the active form (1,25(OH)2D). And vice versa of course


Now what regulates this conversion. Scientists are not entirely sure. It could be down to genetic variation or influenced by gut microbiota or some other unidentified factor.

PS. And yes most supplements on the market are in fact cope. It is also an unregulated industry.

You always complaint about vits not working but you get them prescribed with many medicines for the combination effect and most studies show them to work in this regard, so what supplements you are talking about?
Also there are studies showing better performance when using multivitamins on vitamin deprived atheletes.

 

[Cope]

You always complaint about vits not working but you get them prescribed with many medicines for the combination effect and most studies show them to work in this regard, so what supplements you are talking about?
Also there are studies showing better performance when using multivitamins on vitamin deprived atheletes.

He suffers from cognitive dissonance.

 

[TITUS]

He suffers from cognitive dissonance.

He comes, posts some obscure shit with medical terminology no one is interested about or understands, and when you confront him he doesn't answer back because he is "too busy" to answer plebs.
What a dog. If he really is a doctor or a doc student just proves the dictum that "when a doctor is in a room he thinks himself the cleverest man". The med students spend a decade studying with very little to show afterwards, you ain't that clever doc. Many docs are just memorizing rats, stupid as a log and can't be challenged on whatever outdated knowledge they adquired 30 years ago in their med schools.

 

[Cope]

He comes, posts some obscure shit with medical terminology no one is interested about or understands, and when you confront him he doesn't answer back because he is "too busy" to answer plebs.
What a dog. If he really is a doctor or a doc student just proves the dictum that "when a doctor is in a room he thinks himself the cleverest man". The med students spend a decade studying with very little to show afterwards, you ain't that clever doc. Many docs are just memorizing rats, stupid as a log and can't be challenged on whatever outdated knowledge they adquired 30 years ago in their med schools.

@Seth Walsh and I confronted him about this months ago and he never replied. Biomedical docs have the complete opposite opinion of his when it comes to supps.

 

[Popsmoke]

They're not cope but if you're living a shitty non-aesthetic lifestyle and you take supplements it won't change shit. They're called supplements for a reason, in addition to your lifestyle. My vitamins/supps work perfectly for me.

 

[doll]

depends which supplements you take and for what reason you take them

most of the time not cope if you want to skin healthmaxx or eyebrowmaxx etc

 

[Deleted member 5927]

Wrong.

Liposomal vit c
l-citruline
magnesium citrate
zinc pico/citrate
omega 3
d3 and k2
creatine
boron

are all very important for men.

I want to take creatine for gains but the water retention scares me