Are there legit ways to increase PFL

[Yusu]

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[Warlow]

eyelash maxxing tbh, if that fails try to improve pfh to pfl ratio.

 

[Britishlooksmaxxer]

No unless hgh magically increases eyeball and eye socket width
(which it doesn't its FUCKING OVER OP)

 

[Deleted member 1862]

No unless hgh magically increases eyeball and eye socket width
(which it doesn't its FUCKING OVER OP)

eyeball size isn't what determines pfl

theres only slight deviations in eyeball size from person to person

also OP, if you can pull the skin next to your eyes back to reveal more eyeball & not conjuctiva, get a lateral canthoplasty

 

[Yusu]

eyelash maxxing tbh, if that fails try to improve pfh to pfl ratio.

bottom eyelash too?

 

[Deleted member 7079]

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[Yusu]

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hmmm ok

 

[Warlow]

bottom eyelash too?

yes

 

[Deleted member 7079]

hmmm ok

I mean it's technically legit, but you might increase something else as well ☠

 

[hairyballscel]

MSE or Lateral Epicanthoplasty

 

[Yusu]

jfl @ u having my same problem

i got curtain hair to cover the zygos
i re-shaped my eyebrows to make my es ratio seem better and so also the pfl
my last goal about the eyes shape is to get upper eyelid fillers and infraorbital rim implant, so that the pfhfl ratio will improve (pfh shortening)

there is another thing that you could do and that is changing nose shape if it affects the perception of your pfl

and.. if you live on mars and like to dream about things you'll never do, you could do a zygos reduction surgery

i am assuming that your pfl question is related to es ratio (because it is)
goodbye fellow looksmaxxer

there is another thing that you could do and that is changing nose shape if it affects the perception of your pfl

could you elaborate?

 

[Deleted member 6492]

there is another thing that you could do and that is changing nose shape if it affects the perception of your pfl

could you elaborate?

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[Deleted member 5385]

eyeball size isn't what determines pfl

theres only slight deviations in eyeball size from person to person

also OP, if you can pull the skin next to your eyes back to reveal more eyeball & not conjuctiva, get a lateral canthoplasty

Can you combine lateral canthoplasty with tripod osteotomy?

 

[Deleted member 1862]

Can you combine lateral canthoplasty with tripod osteotomy?

a what?

 

[Deleted member 5385]

a what?

 

[Deleted member 1862]

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thats mlf3

 

[Deleted member 5385]

thats mlf3

So MLF3 should increase PFL because orbitals are wider, ewentually IPD.
There was something on jawsurgeriesforum Sinn can increase IPD up to 6mm and PFL. Maybe because of those cuts.

 

[Deleted member 1862]

So MLF3 should increase PFL because orbitals are wider, ewentually IPD.
There was something on jawsurgeriesforum Sinn can increase IPD up to 6mm and PFL. Maybe because of those cuts.

in theory yes, but I don't think it will in practice. Your best bet is to get mlf3 followed by lateral cantho, or just lateral cantho if your malar complex/ orbitals are fine.

Idk I think that thread is kind of wishful thinking. It's about how he can move the canthus along with the malar complex, but idk if he's ever done it.

I've made a post on here before about orbital floor implants, and how these can potentially provide a PFL increase.

 

[orthochadic]

i don't think it has anything to do with your orbital widrh tbh. Look at the old guy. His orbit are a lot wider than his pfl.
Sames for Arab incell. PFL is just about soft tissue not bones.
Just press the skin of your outer canthus backward untill touching your frontozygomatic suture and you will notice that your pfl is slightly wider. Do the same with the inner one.
You need lateral and medial canthoplasty.
But find a good surgeon to avoid compliquations.

 

[orthochadic]

Some good surgeons does it without even altering your canthal tilt: This shit is legit:

So PFL is easy to get.
Just i would like to remind you guys that the outer corner of Asians eyes are just similars to ours.
And their inner canthus is narrow due to their flat nose.
Inner augmentation canthoplasty also work for european/black... whoever you want eyes.
But most of us have good inner canthus, So widening it would just show more of the "red thing" that i don't know how to call.

 

[orthochadic]

But this surgery should be done in accordance with your esr and ipd.

If you have a bad ipd and bad esr ratio, just widen the outer edge.

If your eyes are a bit too wide apart from each other, widen both sides then, as the outer edge is important no matter how your eye area is.

 

[orthochadic]

seems like weak upper eyelid cause directly or indirectly this issue of pfl shortening.
Which is why as we age our eyes get visibly shorter.
If sean didn't have an excess of skin under his brow ridged giving him hooded eyes thanks to his h24 low eyebrow posture, i think he would have upper slcera show and red eyes from drying jfl, but we see at least all of his upper cornea, that is to say that his upper eyelid is active as fuck due to his neck posture and forward growth allowing him to stand with a straight forehead and neck at the same time without impacting his airways.
So as we look forward, his upper eyelid is more active than that of a sloping foreheadcell (as sloping forehead means that your eyes are looking down H24, so less upper eyelid opening muscle usage).
We have no evidence that training the uper eyelid do widen the pfl,
but we have many clues showing a big correlation between weak uper eyelid seem to cause shorter pfl as we age.
And uggly traits are usually elderly traits..

 

[MrGlutton]

i have a study where PFL increase naturally with age (to mid 20s)

 

[orthochadic]

i have a study where PFL increase naturally with age (to mid 20s)

you mean it increase untill mid 20s ?

 

[Lev Peshkov]

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