Are there more attractive women nowadays compared to men?

[Obsid]

I think there are more attractive women nowadays because for men to be attractive, I think you have to tick more boxes, so what I mean is ideally higher levels of testosterone, a nice prominent brow ridge but not too strong, deep set eyes, a prominent maxilla, a straight nose, a masculine FWHR, a good chin, and more. I'm new to all this, but even I know that men have to have more bones developed on their faces to achieve a masculinely attractive face, while I believe women need less. I also heard that women's estrogen levels were on the rise from one of the threads in BOTB while men's testosterone levels were decreasing.

I live in Central asia and the men look disgusting simply put the women look leagues above the men

 

[mercccwmouth]

yes absolutely true. Also, fakeups are easy peasy for women

 

[mercccwmouth]

there are fewer femcels than incels

 

[negativetiltedheart]

Yes but its mostly due to makeup.

 

[GreekGenes]

I mean, 80% of men look like shit and dont put any effort into improving their looks. Walking down the street you see half the men dressed like hobos even further downgrading their subpar faces. Like every third guy is balding, has badly trimmed facial hair or just downright facial deformities.

The thing is, even the "average" looking women will go to great lengths to look better (Hairstyles, skincare, make up, Surgeries etc etc) So yeah, it's lopsided.

The thing is, because for centuries or rather millenia men didnt have to invest in their looks (since getting women was determined by STATUS and CUSTOMS), men never developed an inherent understanding of personal aesthetics.

 

[Obsid]

Yes but its mostly due to makeup.

I'd disagree even without makeup I often see major baddies walking down the streets while a 7/10 man is only seen once every 2 weeks or so

 

[BecomingHuman]

Yes, environmental factors (mostly skeletal underdevelopment and obesity) lowers males' attractivenes more than they lower women's.

Also could be partialy genetic drift towards soft facial feature.

 

[italianmaxxer]

I'd disagree even without makeup I often see major baddies walking down the streets while a 7/10 man is only seen once every 2 weeks or so

because we as men dont judge women objectively, and most of the times "no make up girls" are wearing make up you just dont know it

 

[TheoRaven]

There is far less things that have to go right for a woman to be considered attractive. Or to put it another way: Women have a lot more leeway when it comes to good and bad features and ratios.

One big thing that is to blame is falling testosterone levels, while your great granpas generation had average levels of 1000+, you'll only see natural levels like that exceedingly few men and 99% of them will be good looking. The lack of test in men causes them to just straight up not develop correctly and most of them end up looking like slightly too masculine women or preteens/teens with shit fat, skin and hair for the rest of their life.