Arimidex and finasteride combo "The Discombobulater" will skyrocket testosterone naturally

[Prøphet]

Alright — time to discombobulate:

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You’ve now got:

• Arimidex smashing the estrogen emergency brake ,
• Finasteride throwing DHT into a dungeon .

And your endocrine system is sitting there like:

“Bro… what do you want from me?”

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Let’s zoom into the chaos:​

• Arimidex:
  “Kill all estrogen. We don’t need her.”
  Blocks aromatase → Estradiol → HPTA goes “Cool, more testosterone please!”
• Finasteride:
  “Nope, no more DHT conversions for you.”
  Testosterone tries to turn into DHT → Denied → More T floats around aimlessly

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The Collision:​

• You might skyrocket total testosterone but feel weird.
• Low estradiol from Arimidex → Dry joints, dead libido, depression
• Low DHT from Finasteride → Reduced sexual function, emotional flatness, possible brain fog

So yes — total T = , but you might feel like .

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Potential Symptoms From Discombobulating:​

Hormone	Too Low From…	Possible Effects
Estradiol	Arimidex	Dry joints, poor libido, mood swings, fatigue
DHT	Finasteride	Reduced libido, weaker erections, brain fog
Balance	All combined	Unpredictable mood, inconsistent energy, hormone "yo-yo"

 

[Prøphet]

“Bro… what do you want from me?”

HPTA goes “Cool, more testosterone please!”

Why does it talk like dr mike jfl

 

[Deleted member 110192]

Alright — time to discombobulate:

---

You’ve now got:

• Arimidex smashing the estrogen emergency brake ,
• Finasteride throwing DHT into a dungeon .

And your endocrine system is sitting there like:

---

Let’s zoom into the chaos:​

• Arimidex:
  “Kill all estrogen. We don’t need her.”
  Blocks aromatase → Estradiol → HPTA goes “Cool, more testosterone please!”
• Finasteride:
  “Nope, no more DHT conversions for you.”
  Testosterone tries to turn into DHT → Denied → More T floats around aimlessly

---

The Collision:​

• You might skyrocket total testosterone but feel weird.
• Low estradiol from Arimidex → Dry joints, dead libido, depression
• Low DHT from Finasteride → Reduced sexual function, emotional flatness, possible brain fog

So yes — total T = , but you might feel like .

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Potential Symptoms From Discombobulating:​

Hormone	Too Low From…	Possible Effects
Estradiol	Arimidex	Dry joints, poor libido, mood swings, fatigue
DHT	Finasteride	Reduced libido, weaker erections, brain fog
Balance	All combined	Unpredictable mood, inconsistent energy, hormone "yo-yo"

Thought you were a stupid incel tbh

Edit: I was right

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

Yeah bro just crash your E, for a lil bit more test

 

[Prøphet]

I will be taking "the discombobulator" asap once I get my hands on adex and tell you niggas how it is

As a 17 year old I tried finasteride for a couple months by itself and it raised my e2 so I quit out of fear for my growth plates

So finasteride will halt the progression of my hair loss, arimidex will protect me from the raised e2 caused by not having dht to naturally antagonize estrogen, and by blocking both of these pathways I will have more test floating around in my system not being converted

It should be positive for my growth plates and physiological changes due to test

HGH will also be added if possible

 

[Prøphet]

Yeah bro just crash your E, for a lil bit more test

Can you even crash e2 as a natty? I plan to take 0.25mg every other day arimidex and 1mg every other day finasteride. The arimidex is to protect my growth plates from raised e2 due to fin/in general. Its for heightmaxxing mainly

 

[Prøphet]

jfl at supressing dht at 17. NO MORE DIHHH GAINS

Im ok with a modest 6.4 inches as long as I can preserve my hair

DHT overall is a jestered hormone compared to test

 

[Prøphet]

jfl at supressing dht at 17. NO MORE DIHHH GAINS

And why would I choose to maximize something that isnt visible over my looks jfl. You need to not be norwood 3 in order to even use your dick if youre not meeks

 

[KaisenMaxxer]

Can you even crash e2 as a natty?

I think so yeah but dyor

I plan to take 0.25mg every other day arimidex and 1mg every other day finasteride.

idk how much fin raises E2 but on 500 test e, I see recommendations of 0.5mg e3.5d, so you would take almost as much.
IMO you should start slower and adapt if you need to.
But DYOR of course

 

[Prøphet]

you can start fin after you turn 20 too lol ur hair wont disappear in 3 years

Within the last 2 years I went from norwood 0 to norwood 2 nigga, and theres a bit of thinning even behind the hairline. If I wait I will probably need a transplant tbh which will take money away from other hardmaxxing

Also transplants are limited, getting a transplant in early 20s means your cooked in your 30s+

 

[Prøphet]

do you realize that even according to your own thread the test wont be free it will be total test meaning it wont even be used by the body. and dht still has benefits outside of just growing dick

Libido, Voice, Bones

Jfl at bones, dht wont give you bones nigga thats why Im gonna take hgh (something that actually has an effect on bones)

Jfl at libido theres no reason you should have a libido when youre under mtn cuz its useless and doesnt serve any purpose

Jfl at voice, you dont need to voicemax if youre gl

 

[Evgeniy291]

I think so yeah but dyor

idk how much fin raises E2 but on 500 test e, I see recommendations of 0.5mg e3.5d, so you would take almost as much.
IMO you should start slower and adapt if you need to.
But DYOR of course

Recommendations are stupid everyone needs to try and find their own dose because everyone aromatizes differently

I use 0.5 EOD on 500 test

0.25 EOD is a very low dose, it will reduce ur e2 by 25% roughly

 

[Prøphet]

i doubt ur norwood 2 tbh

Nah I deadass am, corners are running away and miniaturizing

 

[chadisbeingmade]

dht still has benefits outside of just growing dick

Bones

@Jonas2k7

 

[Prøphet]

find me a high t, high dht nigga during puberty that doesnt have developed bones

Pretty hard cuz 99% of teens arent getting hormone tests and you cant tell dht levels at all just from facial hair/dih cuz of androgen sensitivity

 

[chadisbeingmade]

):

Read the section “will 5ARi effect bone development”
https://looksmax.org/threads/the-cu...nhibitors-and-topical-anti-androgens.1419375/
and that
https://looksmax.org/threads/the-cu...-topical-anti-androgens.1419375/post-20559460

find me a high t, high dht nigga during puberty that doesnt have developed bones

High T, sure. High DHT has nothing to do with it. Test, E2, HGH, IGF1 are the only things that have a significant impact on your bones.

 

[RecessedCel5]

I will be taking "the discombobulator" asap once I get my hands on adex and tell you niggas how it is

As a 17 year old I tried finasteride for a couple months by itself and it raised my e2 so I quit out of fear for my growth plates

So finasteride will halt the progression of my hair loss, arimidex will protect me from the raised e2 caused by not having dht to naturally antagonize estrogen, and by blocking both of these pathways I will have more test floating around in my system not being converted

It should be positive for my growth plates and physiological changes due to test

HGH will also be added if possible

don't block DHT in puberty, wait till you fully develop

 

[Prøphet]

don't block DHT in puberty, wait till you fully develop

So I should let my hair loss run its course?

 

[Prøphet]

):

 

[RecessedCel5]

Read the section “will 5ARi effect bone development”
https://looksmax.org/threads/the-cu...nhibitors-and-topical-anti-androgens.1419375/
and that
https://looksmax.org/threads/the-cu...-topical-anti-androgens.1419375/post-20559460



High T, sure. High DHT has nothing to do with it. Test, E2, HGH, IGF1 are the only things that have a significant impact on your bones.

this is true, but what about the effects on secondary male characteristics during puberty.

 

[RecessedCel5]

So I should let my hair loss run its course?

are you losing hair ?

 

[Prøphet]

are you losing hair ?

Yes, I was norwood 0 at 15 with a rounded hairline and im norwood 2 right now at 17, some thinning behind the hairline too

 

[RecessedCel5]

Yes, I was norwood 0 at 15 with a rounded hairline and im norwood 2 right now at 17, some thinning behind the hairline too

okay, then hop on

 

[chadisbeingmade]

this is true, but what about the effects on secondary male characteristics during puberty.

I don’t advocate for blocking it during puberty. If you’re 18 or haven’t grown in height in a few years, then I personally think it’s safe to take 5ARi.

You have to weight the risk to reward ratio.

The only desirable secondary male characteristics from DHT would be dick and voice.

 

[Prøphet]

I don’t advocate for blocking it during puberty. If you’re 18 or haven’t grown in height in a few years, then I personally think it’s safe to take 5ARi.

You have to weight the risk to reward ratio.

The only desirable secondary male characteristics from DHT would be dick and voice.

What do you think about the discombobulater

 

[Prøphet]

okay, then hop on

Thoughts on the discombobulater?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

What do you think about the discombobulater

Don’t nuke your estrogen to increase your test levels. Low estrogen will make you feel worse than low test IMO. You will still have libido with normal estrogen and low test, but zero libido with low estrogen and normal test.

 

[Prøphet]

Don’t nuke your estrogen to increase your test levels. Low estrogen will make you feel worse than low test tbh. You will still have libido with normal estrogen and low test, but not with low estrogen and normal test.

Its for growth plates just in case since fin raises e2 for me

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Its for growth plates just in case since fin raises e2 for me

Well low dose it then, don’t nuke it.

 

[Prøphet]

Well low dose it then, don’t nuke it.

I cant find a consistent answer anywhere online since all the niggas on AI also take test

Do you think 0.25mg eod is good to try?

I will also be taking hgh soon

 

[chadisbeingmade]

I cant find a consistent answer anywhere online since all the niggas on AI also take test

Do you think 0.25mg eod is good to try?

I will also be taking hgh soon

Start low and adjust accordingly.

Nuked estrogen will cause you to shed hair as well.

 

[RecessedCel5]

I don’t advocate for blocking it during puberty. If you’re 18 or haven’t grown in height in a few years, then I personally think it’s safe to take 5ARi.

You have to weight the risk to reward ratio.

The only desirable secondary male characteristics from DHT would be dick and voice.

btw your thread was really good. do you think that having high levels of T would reduce the side effects form fin/dut.
i remember derek, from mpmd, mentioning that blocking DHT will cause a rise in estrogen due to the amount of test being blocked from converting. To mitigate that he suggests increasing your test levels.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

btw your thread was really good.

Thank you, I appreciate it.

do you think that having high levels of T would reduce the side effects form fin/dut.
i remember derek, from mpmd, mentioning that blocking DHT will cause a rise in estrogen due to the amount of test being blocked from converting. To mitigate that he suggests increasing your test levels.

Since the 5AR enzyme (that converts Test to DHT) is inhibited, Test obviously cant convert to DHT, so Test levels will increase.

They would increase up to 20-25%.

Since there is more Test, there will be greater estrogen conversion, yes. I do not think it is likely to be enough to put you outside the ideal estrogen range though, so that's not something I would be concerned about.

The higher T levels and Estrogen levels can compensate and relieve some of the sides (if you get them).

Estrogen is very important for sexual health. You will have higher libido with nuked test level and wit normal estrogen, than you would with normal test and nuked estrogen for example.


If you were asking about TRT and exogenous Testosterone, yes it will also relieve side effects. People who use Test are less effective. Test is still androgenic to an extent, and can conpenasate for the lack of dht.

 

[RecessedCel5]

Thank you, I appreciate it.


Since the 5AR enzyme (that converts Test to DHT) is inhibited, Test obviously cant convert to DHT, so Test levels will increase.
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They would increase up to 20-25%.

Since there is more Test, there will be greater estrogen conversion, yes. I do not think it is likely to be enough to put you outside the ideal estrogen range though, so that's not something I would be concerned about.

The higher T levels and Estrogen levels can compensate and relieve some of the sides (if you get them).

Estrogen is very important for sexual health. You will have higher libido with nuked test level and wit normal estrogen, than you would with normal test and nuked estrogen for example.


If you were asking about TRT and exogenous Testosterone, yes it will also relieve side effects. People who use Test are less effective. Test is still androgenic to an extent, and can conpenasate for the lack of dht.

what do you think about GT20029. supposedly it targets the androgen receptors on hair, from what i have read it seems promising

 

[chadisbeingmade]

what do you think about GT20029. supposedly it targets the androgen receptors on hair, from what i have read it seems promising

Yeah, I agree it does seem promising.

I've seen some good results in trails.

I haven't looked much into it, but some could possibly consider it safer than RU58841 since I think we actually have safety data PK/PD in humans, where as with RU it was never released to the public.

 

[Prøphet]

what do you think about GT20029. supposedly it targets the androgen receptors on hair, from what i have read it seems promising

Just give it 5 more years bro

 

[Prøphet]

Better to js discombobulate tbh

 

[Whirr22222]

Killing estrogen is retarded

 

[Prøphet]

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