Aromasin dose on 600mg test a week

[Napoleon1800]

My base e2 is 16.6pg/ml (though I have gyno for some reason)

I’m going to be using 630mg (90mg a day) of test P a week, as well as HGH and low dose T3+T4

What dose and frequency of aromadin should I use to maintain my e2 levels 10-15pg/ml? 25mg ED? Or will that rape me

 

[whirn]

6.25mg ed or 12.5mg eod

 

[DravidianBvll]

My base e2 is 16.6pg/ml (though I have gyno for some reason)

I’m going to be using 630mg (90mg a day) of test P a week, as well as HGH and low dose T3+T4

What dose and frequency of aromadin should I use to maintain my e2 levels 10-15pg/ml? 25mg ED? Or will that rape me

25mg ED?? tf nigga

 

[DravidianBvll]

You should only take AI if you start to feel high E symptoms, and then start at a lower dose like 12.5mg EOD and titre up if you need to.

 

[somalie]

gyno


What dose and frequency of aromadin should I use to maintain my e2 levels 10-15pg/ml? 25mg ED? Or will that rape me

raloxifene for gyno

keep ai on hand and use only when u feel high e2 symptoms

 

[Napoleon1800]

You should only take AI if you start to feel high E symptoms, and then start at a lower dose like 12.5mg EOD and titre up if you need to.

I don’t want to close my clavicle growth plates

 

[DravidianBvll]

I don’t want to close my clavicle growth plates

idk how old you are, but realistically they won't grow a significant amount more assuming you're in your late teens. I would rather miss out on a 1-2 cm of clavicular growth than crash my e2.

 

[Napoleon1800]

idk how old you are, but realistically they won't grow a significant amount more assuming you're in your late teens. I would rather miss out on a 1-2 cm of clavicular growth than crash my e2.

well I suppose the question is how much does 600mg of test a week cause an increase in e2.

 

[L13]

My base e2 is 16.6pg/ml (though I have gyno for some reason)

I’m going to be using 630mg (90mg a day) of test P a week, as well as HGH and low dose T3+T4

What dose and frequency of aromadin should I use to maintain my e2 levels 10-15pg/ml? 25mg ED? Or will that rape me

Heh, i personally love 25mg ED, but itll kill ur sex drive. thats why i like it. Feel no desire towards women and like a complete asexual, super freeing to me. Might fuck ur skin up as estrogen does help with skin quality, unless ur doing it on purpose to kill sex drive 25mg ED is going to rape u. Are you on any other compounds too because other steroids will fw ur est. Also why tf test P, do u love sticking needles in ur ass or smth, run E or C like a real nigga jesus.

 

[DravidianBvll]

well I suppose the question is how much does 600mg of test a week cause an increase in e2.

Its different for everyone, the fact that you have gyno could suggest you are a high aromatiser but the only way to know is to get regular bloodwork if you have the money.

 

[Napoleon1800]

Its different for everyone, the fact that you have gyno could suggest you are a high aromatiser but the only way to know is to get regular bloodwork if you have the money.

well I’m also at 16.6pg/ml natural e2 which is strange

 

[Napoleon1800]

Heh, i personally love 25mg ED, but itll kill ur sex drive. thats why i like it. Feel no desire towards women and like a complete asexual, super freeing to me. Might fuck ur skin up as estrogen does help with skin quality, unless ur doing it on purpose to kill sex drive 25mg ED is going to rape u. Are you on any other compounds too because other steroids will fw ur est. Also why tf test P, do u love sticking needles in ur ass or smth, run E or C like a real nigga jesus.

No just test

Test p for more stable levels and minimising aromatisation

 

[Napoleon1800]

@Sadist

 

[Sadist]

ngl i was on 12.5 ed on 1g test and my e2 was pretty tanked, so i doubled up one of the days and am currently on 25/12.5 varying. do 12.5 ed at first, then adjust imo

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

My base e2 is 16.6pg/ml (though I have gyno for some reason)

I’m going to be using 630mg (90mg a day) of test P a week, as well as HGH and low dose T3+T4

What dose and frequency of aromadin should I use to maintain my e2 levels 10-15pg/ml? 25mg ED? Or will that rape me

Instead of aromasin take armidex bc it has an estrogen rebound bc u don’t want your estrogen to get to low

 

[Napoleon1800]

ngl i was on 12.5 ed on 1g test and my e2 was pretty tanked, so i doubled up one of the days and am currently on 25/12.5 varying. do 12.5 ed at first, then adjust imo

did you do bloods when you were on 12.5mg Ed?

 

[Napoleon1800]

Instead of aromasin take armidex bc it has an estrogen rebound bc u don’t want your estrogen to get to low

it’s also stronger but what if I miss a dose, I’m fucked

 

[Sadist]

did you do bloods when you were on 12.5mg Ed?

yeah and thats how i clocked that its tanking since i genuinely feel 0 mental effects on anything i take, so there is no way for me to tell other than bloods

 

[Napoleon1800]

yeah and thats how i clocked that its tanking since i genuinely feel 0 mental effects on anything i take so theres no way for me to tell other than bloods

What were your levels?

 

[Sadist]

What were your levels?

34.6

 

[Napoleon1800]

34.6

How is that low?
I was thinking you went under 20
I’m aiming for 10-15pg/ml
close to my natural baseline

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

it’s also stronger but what if I miss a dose, I’m fucked

Your not like I said it has an estrogen rebound

 

[Napoleon1800]

Your not like I said it has an estrogen rebound

Yeah if I miss a dose, my e2 will rebound, how is that a good thing?

 

[Sadist]

How is that low?
I was thinking you went under 20
I’m aiming for 10-15pg/ml
close to my natural baseline

thats high brah, i did say it was tanking

as i said that was on 12.5 ed

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Yeah if I miss a dose, my e2 will rebound, how is that a good thing?

No as in it’ll rebound from 0 and just stay between 20

 

[Napoleon1800]

No as in it’ll rebound from 0 and just stay between 20

what dose and frequency? 0.5mg ED?

 

[Napoleon1800]

thats high brah, i did say it was tanking

as i said that was on 12.5 ed

I might be a bit retarded but are you not saying on 1g of test and 12.5mg ED of Aromasin your e2 was 34.6pg/ml?

What were your natty e2 levels

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

what dose and frequency? 0.5mg ED?

Every 3 days

 

[Linus1888]

This is actually impossible to tell.

Theres no way of knowing how much you aromatise without getting your blood work checked and even then we cant know what dosage of what ai will do to your levels, well not exactly only vaguely.

you need to start taking above mentioned dosages like 6.25 eod and then get your e2 checked pretty often.

Id start with a low dosage if taking aromasin because it is a sucicidal ai which means it takes way longer for your e2 to get back to baseline. so if you completely fuck up your e2, thats pretty bad as the effects of the crashed e2 will stay for a while.


tldr; bloodtests regularly and start with a low dosage and titrate up till your e2 is in a good range

 

[Sadist]

I might be a bit retarded but are you not saying on 1g of test and 12.5mg ED of Aromasin your e2 was 34.6pg/ml?

well ofc aromatization on 1g is brutal, even if im on test p
thats why i raised asin dosage to 25/12.5 although i have a feeling i may have to do 25 ed

What were your natty e2 levels

17.2

 

[Napoleon1800]

well ofc aromatization on 1g is brutal, even if im on test p
thats why i raised asin dosage to 25/12.5 although i have a feeling i may have to do 25 ed

17.2

Ok similar ish to me. How much more significant is aromatisation on 1g vs 600-700mg? Is 25mg EOD going to be more potent than 12.5mg ED?

That’s why I’m also considering 25mg ED, I don’t want to risk an e2 spike. What are your thoughts on Arimidex instead of Aromasin

 

[Sadist]

Ok similar ish to me. How much more significant is aromatisation on 1g vs 600-700mg? Is 25mg EOD going to be more potent than 12.5mg ED?

That’s why I’m also considering 25mg ED, I don’t want to risk an e2 spike. What are your thoughts on Arimidex instead of Aromasin

i always thought adex is a bit harsh, but ngl when you exceed like 25 asin ed it is very likely to be worth considering

also aromatization is more significant ofc since your aroma levels determine the fraction of test that is going to be aromatized rather than a fixed amount (correct me if im wrong), therefore aromatization increases in proportion assuming aromatase levels remain the same on both 600 and 1000 mg

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

blood test retard.

 

[Napoleon1800]

blood test retard.

not everyone has access to frequent blood tests

 

[L13]

No just test

Test p for more stable levels and minimising aromatisation

test p is less stable due to a shorter half life, you know this right? A longer half life means it builds up faster, but it takes longer to decay. For example take test P, if u pin once every half of a half life (which is how u maintain the most stable levels by increasing frequency) u have to pin once every day to basically maintain ur levels. The faster an ester decays, the more fluctuation there is wihtin ur levels, the more fluctuation, the more prone to side effects such as acne, mood swings, aromatization and water retention. Test C or E on the other hand, u might half to pin once every 3 days, but u because they have a half life longer than test p, u will maintain more stable levels. C and E take longer to build up in ur system, sure, but on the other hand, u dont have to be a pin cushion ED or EOD u can do 2x a week.

 

[L13]

U can google or chatgpt this if u want. The only use case I could see for prop is if ur scared of big needles and u wanna use a smaller one but ur on such high doses not trt that ur most likely gonna need to pin with at least a 27G anyways, not able to use an insulin needle most likely. Propionate also has a lighter ester weight, so per MG, you are getting more test per test if that makes sense.
70% of the solution of test P is going to be testosterone itself, as propionate ester accounts for about 30% of the weight vs a C or E would be about 60%. Test P has the lowest molecular weight by far so if you read anecdotes online about C or E at about the same dosage u picked (which was very specific for some reason, no idea why u wouldn't just start with 500, which is much easier to measure out), you are gonna end up with about a 20% stronger compound then you are expecting. More isnt always better with this type of stuff either. Ur first cycle (which based on ur compound selection of test alone, im guessing this is) u r super receptive too, so you dont need to use as high of a dose to get a good result. Even 400 or 500 of C will yeild you results far superior than you expect. The other argument I can see for it is if you have a bad side effect, u can stop and clear from ur systme quickly, while this is true, keep in mind ur MORE LIKELY to ahve that bad side effect based on ur ester choice. Ur just exposing urself to more DHT swings, more pinning, and higher peak levels which are just not positives. Ester doesnt change aromatization either per molecule of testosterone. Each time u pin, considering P is usually at 100mg/ml or 200mg/ml, ur gonna need to do about 0.9 or 0.45ml of oil, and based on how thick oil is (shitty quality oil will be rough to pin with a 29) and how much of it and just general administration, subq isnt really that great. My advice: 2x a week pinning with a 25G needle of test c at 250mg/ml 1 ml each injection 25G needle instead of 7 injections a week of 0.45-0.9ml with a 27 (or 29 if ur lucky).

 

[Napoleon1800]

U can google or chatgpt this if u want. The only use case I could see for prop is if ur scared of big needles and u wanna use a smaller one but ur on such high doses not trt that ur most likely gonna need to pin with at least a 27G anyways, not able to use an insulin needle most likely. Propionate also has a lighter ester weight, so per MG, you are getting more test per test if that makes sense.
70% of the solution of test P is going to be testosterone itself, as propionate ester accounts for about 30% of the weight vs a C or E would be about 60%. Test P has the lowest molecular weight by far so if you read anecdotes online about C or E at about the same dosage u picked (which was very specific for some reason, no idea why u wouldn't just start with 500, which is much easier to measure out), you are gonna end up with about a 20% stronger compound then you are expecting. More isnt always better with this type of stuff either. Ur first cycle (which based on ur compound selection of test alone, im guessing this is) u r super receptive too, so you dont need to use as high of a dose to get a good result. Even 400 or 500 of C will yeild you results far superior than you expect. The other argument I can see for it is if you have a bad side effect, u can stop and clear from ur systme quickly, while this is true, keep in mind ur MORE LIKELY to ahve that bad side effect based on ur ester choice. Ur just exposing urself to more DHT swings, more pinning, and higher peak levels which are just not positives. Ester doesnt change aromatization either per molecule of testosterone. Each time u pin, considering P is usually at 100mg/ml or 200mg/ml, ur gonna need to do about 0.9 or 0.45ml of oil, and based on how thick oil is (shitty quality oil will be rough to pin with a 29) and how much of it and just general administration, subq isnt really that great. My advice: 2x a week pinning with a 25G needle of test c at 250mg/ml 1 ml each injection 25G needle instead of 7 injections a week of 0.45-0.9ml with a 27 (or 29 if ur lucky).

what do you think about injecting Test E ED then? wouldn’t that theoretically be the most stable?

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

not everyone has access to frequent blood tests

Jfl bro ur ass has been using drugs forever. If u can get the drugs u can get the bloods.

 

[Napoleon1800]

Jfl bro ur ass has been using drugs forever. If u can get the drugs u can get the bloods.

sure but not frequently, bloods arent cheap

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

what do you think about injecting Test E ED then? wouldn’t that theoretically be the most stable?

Jfl. Stay on prop and get bloods. On 250 p and 125 p i have the nearly the aame amount of e2 ( 47-57) and on ai i dropped it to 0. So if u dont use bloods u wont know what the fuck isbhappenig

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

sure but not frequently, bloods arent cheap

Jfl bro a full panel is like 200 with everything

 

[Napoleon1800]

Jfl. Stay on prop and get bloods. On 250 p and 125 p i have the nearly the aame amount of e2 ( 47-57) and on ai i dropped it to 0. So if u dont use bloods u wont know what the fuck isbhappenig

What ai and dose did you use?

 

[Napoleon1800]

U can google or chatgpt this if u want. The only use case I could see for prop is if ur scared of big needles and u wanna use a smaller one but ur on such high doses not trt that ur most likely gonna need to pin with at least a 27G anyways, not able to use an insulin needle most likely. Propionate also has a lighter ester weight, so per MG, you are getting more test per test if that makes sense.
70% of the solution of test P is going to be testosterone itself, as propionate ester accounts for about 30% of the weight vs a C or E would be about 60%. Test P has the lowest molecular weight by far so if you read anecdotes online about C or E at about the same dosage u picked (which was very specific for some reason, no idea why u wouldn't just start with 500, which is much easier to measure out), you are gonna end up with about a 20% stronger compound then you are expecting. More isnt always better with this type of stuff either. Ur first cycle (which based on ur compound selection of test alone, im guessing this is) u r super receptive too, so you dont need to use as high of a dose to get a good result. Even 400 or 500 of C will yeild you results far superior than you expect. The other argument I can see for it is if you have a bad side effect, u can stop and clear from ur systme quickly, while this is true, keep in mind ur MORE LIKELY to ahve that bad side effect based on ur ester choice. Ur just exposing urself to more DHT swings, more pinning, and higher peak levels which are just not positives. Ester doesnt change aromatization either per molecule of testosterone. Each time u pin, considering P is usually at 100mg/ml or 200mg/ml, ur gonna need to do about 0.9 or 0.45ml of oil, and based on how thick oil is (shitty quality oil will be rough to pin with a 29) and how much of it and just general administration, subq isnt really that great. My advice: 2x a week pinning with a 25G needle of test c at 250mg/ml 1 ml each injection 25G needle instead of 7 injections a week of 0.45-0.9ml with a 27 (or 29 if ur lucky).

also bro why would I pin subq instead of IM

Reason for P was to mimic the natty test levels, daily morning pinning. I thought of doing daily E injections but it has a long half life so I thought it’s going to take time to build up and effects are slow to come in and also with P I can modify doses based on how I feel quicker.

I went for 630 which is 90mg from a day which is easy to pull from a 100mg/ml 10ml vial, especially because on the last day of using the vial I will need to use 100mg to finish the vial and this may sound retarded but it would cause less of a peak than if I jumped up from 70-80mg to 100mg than 90.
600mg was also noted as the highest tolerable dose in a study.

 

[L13]

what do you think about injecting Test E ED then? wouldn’t that theoretically be the most stable?

Yeah but its half life is so long theres no point

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

What ai and dose did you use?

i took aromisan 6.25

 

[MUSTYCOPER]

also bro why would I pin subq instead of IM

Reason for P was to mimic the natty test levels, daily morning pinning. I thought of doing daily E injections but it has a long half life so I thought it’s going to take time to build up and effects are slow to come in and also with P I can modify doses based on how I feel quicker.

I went for 630 which is 90mg from a day which is easy to pull from a 100mg/ml 10ml vial, especially because on the last day of using the vial I will need to use 100mg to finish the vial and this may sound retarded but it would cause less of a peak than if I jumped up from 70-80mg to 100mg than 90.
600mg was also noted as the highest tolerable dose in a study.

tbh 630 is pretty overkill. I got 3.5k level on 250. and 1250 free test.

 

[Napoleon1800]

This is actually impossible to tell.

Theres no way of knowing how much you aromatise without getting your blood work checked and even then we cant know what dosage of what ai will do to your levels, well not exactly only vaguely.

you need to start taking above mentioned dosages like 6.25 eod and then get your e2 checked pretty often.

Id start with a low dosage if taking aromasin because it is a sucicidal ai which means it takes way longer for your e2 to get back to baseline. so if you completely fuck up your e2, thats pretty bad as the effects of the crashed e2 will stay for a while.


tldr; bloodtests regularly and start with a low dosage and titrate up till your e2 is in a good range

I think I’ll start with Arimidex 1mg eod to just be safe, I’ll do a blood test 14 days after starting and if it’s too high or low I will adjust.

 

[jester triad]

My base e2 is 16.6pg/ml (though I have gyno for some reason)

I’m going to be using 630mg (90mg a day) of test P a week, as well as HGH and low dose T3+T4

What dose and frequency of aromadin should I use to maintain my e2 levels 10-15pg/ml? 25mg ED? Or will that rape me

might be prolactin bro idfk