Ascend first, then try dating?

[boxing-cel]

should you be approaching women now, or wait until you ascend?

On one hand immediate exposure to women means that you can just sorta get in there and get experience and maybe slay

But rejections will cause negative conditioning and reinforcement

So if you wait till you ascend you have much better chances

Thoughts?

I don’t know whether to wait or start. I tried a few months ago but lowkey I was LTN at that time and 25% body fat, dirty bulked and bloated with zero style and shit and got rejected lmao.

 

[NoExit]

you need to fix your face first ofc. i ddint put my self out there till i was leanmaxx+hairmaxx+gymmaxxed and i still got rejected brutally because my base is trash

 

[midfacedeficient]

not a bad idea to strike up casual flings with some in the meantime. it makes talking to the other ones easier when the opportunity arises because you'll already have the needs met

 

[boxing-cel]

you need to fix your face first ofc. i ddint put my self out there till i was leanmaxx+hairmaxx+gymmaxxed and i still got rejected brutally because my base is trash

Yeah I’m 15% body fat, gonna cut down rapidly to 10%

 

[boxing-cel]

not a bad idea to strike up casual flings with some in the meantime. it makes talking to the other ones easier when the opportunity arises because you'll already have the needs met

I’ve had opportunities to smash for sure but passed them up cause they weren’t HTBs lol. Standardcel

 

[aids]

Don’t put your life on pause for an arbitrary goal that might never even come.

Do both, always do both.

 

[Etson]

should you be approaching women now, or wait until you ascend?

On one hand immediate exposure to women means that you can just sorta get in there and get experience and maybe slay

But rejections will cause negative conditioning and reinforcement

So if you wait till you ascend you have much better chances

Thoughts?

I don’t know whether to wait or start. I tried a few months ago but lowkey I was LTN at that time and 25% body fat, dirty bulked and bloated with zero style and shit and got rejected lmao.

Is this really a question? I think you know the answer.


Teramog her to death

 

[Kazura_]

This is how I feel as well ATM, not sure but I think dating first is the worst move because if it fails you'll blame your looks,

Do both and the more you fail the more you'll improve your look or be more motivated to

Ascend first but girls your age will be having experiences with other guys

 

[boxing-cel]

This is how I feel as well ATM, not sure but I think dating first is the worst move because if it fails you'll blame your looks,

Do both and the more you fail the more you'll improve your look or be more motivated to

Ascend first but girls your age will be having experiences with other guys

Yeah lol, kinda brutal knowing you’re gonna get the leftovers

 

[noaah.f]

this is the worst post ive ever seen,

looksmaxxing is something that should be done in healthy amounts and not consume your entire life.

ive learned the hard way and by not exposing yourself out there is not doing you any good, im guessing social media and bs tiktok influencers are feeding into your delusion that you need to be x tall, have x amount of muscle and look like you came from agartha before you even talk to a girl

yes take steroids yes ascend but not at the cost of isolating yourself and hurting yourself more- youll never be satisfied no matter what you do

just be normal and talk to them and once you find a bad bih just ascend when with her

 

[decret]

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