At the transcendental level, all religions are true. The esoteric metaphysics is sorted. You just need to find which exoteric path is suitable for you

[Raja Porus]

Title (don't feel like elaborating)

 

[2025cel]

Exoteric

Btw, some pagan religions and chinese zen typa religions are complete shit.
All religions have supernatural origins too.

 

[2025cel]

Blud still not gonna accept

Sanskrit Esoteric Brahmin Aryan Monk Sigma Male​

supremacy.

 

[NoHoesinOhio]

fuck dat

 

[2025cel]

fuck dat

Heil skibidi

 

[NoHoesinOhio]

U changed yer shit opinion! Coward!

wdym pussy

 

[2025cel]

wdym pussy

Insulting a sigma for no reason?! Da hell mate!

 

[NoHoesinOhio]

Indo-european religions? Seriously bruv?!

the hell is this schizo talking about

 

[Raja Porus]

Btw, some pagan religions and chinese zen typa religions are complete shit.
All religions have supernatural origins too.

Zen Buddhism in the West is mostly a joke, but in Japan or China, they do have pretty strict rules & rituals for monks. The exoteric tradition is still preserved.

As for pagan religions having lost their exoteric paths, they key word is as you highlighted is "some", not all. We can reasonably reconstruct the rituals & moral norms which binded Neoplatonists like Proclus or Iamblichus

 

[2025cel]

the hell is this schizo talking about

Ok nigga

 

[spoou]

ethical/emotional metaphysics is the spiritual blackpill

 

[Clark]

So if I create my own religion I will go to heaven?

 

[Raja Porus]

ethical/emotional metaphysics is the spiritual blackpill

What would that be like ?

 

[2025cel]

So if I create my own religion I will go to heaven?

Nay, you a faggot bro.

 

[spoou]

What would that be like ?

your emotions dictate your metaphysics and thus all your philosophy

emotions are dictated by natural selection but at the atomic level your enculturation

sociobiology

 

[Raja Porus]

So if I create my own religion I will go to heaven?

In principle, if you can get all the metaphysics & praxis right, then yes. In practice no

Even if you get the metaphysics right, it will be impossible for you to realize its truth & embody it without self purification. You don't really have the time or resources to invent your own exoteric path

A little note : Pretty much all the elite spiritual authorities of world religions aim beyond heaven & hell, even Christian monks & Muslim Sufis

 

[Raja Porus]

your emotions dictate your metaphysics and thus all your philosophy

emotions are dictated by natural selection but at the atomic level your enculturation

sociobiology

That's just materialism. You can't have any metaphysics proper if naturalism is true. At best, metaphysics will be without purpose or meaningless ala Carnap or it will have to be naturalized ala Quine

If metaphysics has an independent subject matter, then naturalism cannot be true. You will have to follow some kind of Ur-Platonism.

Read this book to know more

Platonism and Naturalism : The Possibility of Philosophy by Lloyd P. Gerson

 

[spoou]

That's just materialism. You can't have any metaphysics proper if naturalism is true. At best, metaphysics will be without purpose or meaningless ala Carnap or it will have to be naturalized ala Quine

If metaphysics has an independent subject matter, then naturalism cannot be true. You will have to follow some kind of Ur-Platonism.

Read this book to know more

Platonism and Naturalism : The Possibility of Philosophy by Lloyd P. Gerson

it doesn’t matter if naturalism is true, religion still exists since religion is eugenic

even if transcendental existence was proven not to exist i would still worship satan theistically

the realities truth only matters as long as it’s beneficial

1+1=3 if you profit from it

 

[Lefor3Laser]

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Religions are all cope to me, they are basically made after some rules made in mesopotamia made in the name of religion, it worked because if there wasn't any religion then everybody would kill eachother.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Title (don't feel like elaborating)

Low iq thread. All religions contradict each other thus aren’t the same

Something that contradicts cannot be true

 

[Raja Porus]

Religions are all cope to me, they are basically made after some rules made in mesopotamia made in the name of religion, it worked because if there wasn't any religion then everybody would kill eachother.

The people who made these religious rules were not ordinary folks, nor did it happen all at once. It involved centuries long planning & elaboration of some of the greatest minds & purified souls mankind has ever produced. It would be unwise & unproductive to throw the world traditions behind one's back & start fresh over.

You cannot even understand modernity without understanding it as a rebellion against tradition or alteration of it

 

[Lefor3Laser]

The people who made these religious rules were not ordinary folks, nor did it happen all at once. It involved centuries long planning & elaboration of some of the greatest minds & purified souls mankind has ever produced. It would be unwise & unproductive to throw the world traditions behind one's back & start fresh over.

You cannot even understand modernity without understanding it as a rebellion against tradition or alteration of it

Muhammed literally did all of the religion cope just to conquer, you got Spain as an example, they used islam in the sake of religion even tho muhammed died thousands of years ago, you get my point right?, all religions are meant to expand territorial power back then and easier to control the people.

 

[Raja Porus]

Low iq thread. All religions contradict each other thus aren’t the same

Something that contradicts cannot be true

This objection is a very common one, but it isn't valid

The law of contradiction is a reflection or property of the intellect or being. The laws of logic aren't applicable to all that is beyond the intellect.

The ultimate truth is beyond the intellect. The ultimate truth is beyond being & non being

Read the work of Graham Priest on dialetheism (true contradictions)

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

This objection is a very common one, but it isn't valid

The law of contradiction is a reflection or property of the intellect or being. The laws of logic aren't applicable to all that is beyond the intellect.

The ultimate truth is beyond the intellect. The ultimate truth is beyond being & non being

Read the work of Graham Priest on dialetheism

All religions posit a different metaphysics and a god that has completely different abilities and perosnality

Islams a god of power and control

Christnity posits an god of love, mercy and justice

Judaism posits a good of control, mercy and tribalism

Bubdists don’t even worship god they believe in werid ass shit

Point that I’m making here is that these gods contradict one another they can’t all be correct one can only be correct or they are all wrong that’s what I’m saying here.

 

[2025cel]

Bubdists don’t even worship god they believe in werid ass shit

They believe in Half negro Judaism reincarnation,
the dude who invented the shit was absolutely zen.
He grinded towards it and realized the clusterfucking.
Also a kind of vain typa karma system too.
Eventually his disciples found out the truth and left.

 

[Raja Porus]

All religions posit a different metaphysics and a god that has completely different abilities and perosnality

Islams a god of power and control

Christnity posits an god of love, mercy and justice

Judaism posits a good of control, mercy and tribalism

Bubdists don’t even worship god they believe in werid ass shit

Point that I’m making here is that these gods contradict one another they can’t all be correct one can only be correct or they are all wrong that’s what I’m saying here.

This is false. Both Christian monks & Muslim Sufis believe God is absolutely simple. All his attributes are identical to his essence, as such, he is beyond description. Same holds true in Judaism. Go read Maimonides

Buddhists believe in non dual ultimate reality (Dharma), which is non essential perspective of the essence of God in Abrahamic religions, it is ineffable

You need to study the metaphysics of all these religions at a deeper level & move beyond strawman

 

[Raja Porus]

They believe in Half negro Judaism reincarnation,
the dude who invented the shit was absolutely zen.
He grinded towards it and realized the clusterfucking.
Also a kind of vain typa karma system too.
Eventually his disciples found out the truth and left.

Lol ??? Zen Buddhism is indistinguishable from Christian & Islamic & Jewish mysticism

It is non dualism

 

[2025cel]

Lol ??? Zen Buddhism is indistinguishable from Christian & Islamic & Jewish mysticism

It is non dualism

Did the main disciple dude not leave I tell ya!

 

[2025cel]

Yeah, that nigga nanada left.
He found out what the budda really was.
He left the scene.
He realized this wasn't the true way to achieve what he wanted.

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

Btw, some pagan religions and chinese zen typa religions are complete shit.
All religions have supernatural origins too.

So are you some sort of spiritualist

 

[2025cel]

So are you some sort of spiritualist

No, tf how did you come to that conclusion? jfl

 

[Raja Porus]

Did the main disciple dude not leave I tell ya!

Betrayal is nothing new lol. Moses & Jesus & Muhammad were betrayed by some of their closest followers.

We all know what happens to those who betray trust

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

So are you some sort of spiritualist

Nigga by spiritualist i mean some nigga who believes every religion is just a way to reach God

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

No, tf how did you come to that conclusion? jfl

Nigga i was gonna say this but you disagreed with apgan and zen religions having supernatural origin and i didnt really want to write all that out so i just asked if you were a spiritualist and i didnt know what a spiritualist is exactly

Nigga by spiritualist i mean some nigga who believes every religion is just a way to reach God

 

[Raja Porus]

Yeah, that nigga nanada left.
He found out what the budda really was.
He left the scene.
He realized this wasn't the true way to achieve what he wanted.

It's actually a rule amongst Buddhist monks that you cannot claim to have arrived at enlightenment

This is the paradox of knowledge. Only those who know the truth can verify it, but those who know the truth need no verification

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

It's actually a rule amongst Buddhist monks that you cannot claim to have arrived at enlightenment

This is the paradox of knowledge. Only those who know the truth can verify it, but those who know the truth need no verification

Your pfp looks like Indian cookie king

 

[Raja Porus]

Nigga by spiritualist i mean some nigga who believes every religion is just a way to reach God

The word for that is Perennialism

I'm a perennialist, like Rene Guenon

 

[Raja Porus]

Your pfp looks like Indian cookie king

I dont even know what is that lol

 

[Bars]

I founded my own religion

 

[JeanneDArcAlter]

I dont even know what is that lol

Search up cookie king

 

[Raja Porus]

Bump

 

[KubiFalangism]

No evola I’m not converting to fascistic esoteric paganism I’m fine with being a Roman Catholic