At What Height is LL Not Worth It?

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Assuming you can get the full 15cm/6 inches from Paley. I think at 6'6+ it's pretty stupid to risk being crippled (and guarantee being a cripple by age 45) to be 7 feet. I think the point of diminishing returns is 6'4 though, you can fraud to 6'6/6'7 with lifts and boots anyways.
 
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Assuming you can get the full 15cm/6 inches from Paley. I think at 6'6+ it's pretty stupid to risk being crippled (and guarantee being a cripple by age 45) to be 7 feet. I think the point of diminishing returns is 6'4 though, you can fraud to 6'6/6'7 with lifts and boots anyways.
The point of diminishing returns is 5ft 10+.
A 5ft 7- 5ft 9 person has the most to gain from LL by far
 
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6 inches by paley is 360k btw
 
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at 6'2+ its not worth it
 
jfl im weak 6'3 and considering it
depends on where u live honestly

if u live in the netherlands or sum shit it could be worth it

where i live specifically it would be worth it at 6'2+, but im planning to move out of ts anyways
 
sub 5’0? fuck i would rather be 5’6 then 5’1
 
sub 5’0? fuck i would rather be 5’6 then 5’1
over either way tbh, its like ascending from sub5 to ltn
 
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i'm considering LL at 5'8-5'9. if I do tho I'd lengthen extremely conservatively.

all you niggas add 3.2 inches to only upper portion of legs ur proportions are gonna look horrible. Never do over 4 inches imo unless your armspan is much longer than ur height. U'll look giga retarded.

best way IMO is a total of 3-4 inches on both leg segment. 4-5 cm on femur(upper leg), 3-4 cm on tibias(lower leg)


would ascend my 5'8.5" ass to 5'11"-6'0".

imo LL is worth it at any height below barefoot 5'10" at night.
 
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5'11+
 
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It's over if you are considering it to begin with.
 
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It's over if you are considering it to begin with.
Nah. Imo height is pretty much my only flaw. Some of us would live peak life if we got this. My life is already pretty great as it stands at 5'8-9" but I want it all.
 
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anything over 6 ft
 
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Nah. Imo height is pretty much my only flaw. Some of us would live peak life if we got this. My life is already pretty great as it stands at 5'8-9" but I want it all.
Are you already at least HTN?
 
Assuming you can get the full 15cm/6 inches from Paley. I think at 6'6+ it's pretty stupid to risk being crippled (and guarantee being a cripple by age 45) to be 7 feet. I think the point of diminishing returns is 6'4 though, you can fraud to 6'6/6'7 with lifts and boots anyways.
I would say do it only if you're shorter than average by 2 inches
 
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Are you already at least HTN?
Haven't gotten an official rating but I think I'm low HTN just judging off the PSL scale etc. Atm I'm bulked up from gymmaxxing so it doesn't show very well. I look low MTN probably right now.

But when I was lean a while ago I definitely looked much better. My peak assuming all softmaxxes is probably mid-high HTN.
 
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Haven't gotten an official rating but I think I'm low HTN just judging off the PSL scale etc. Atm I'm bulked up from gymmaxxing so it doesn't show very well. I look low MTN probably right now.

But when I was lean a while ago I definitely looked much better. My peak assuming all softmaxxes is probably mid-high HTN.
How old are you?
 
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If someone is already HTN facially, it's probably not worth it TBH.
Depends. For dating, athletics, and just general normie spaces my height is a non-issue. I look normal and I can just fraud to appear 5'10" anyway.

The only problem I have is walking outside in any elite/rich upper class area and suddenly the average is like 5'11'-6'0".

I walked in a high-end mall without lifts(flat 5'8") and at least 80% of men were taller than me.

The ones shorter than me weren't even competitive in anyway either, so I was practically the shortest "competition". No one 5'5-6" will ever be taken seriously at all in these areas.

Average woman height is like at least 5'7". Many wear heels and I'd say 50% were same height or taller than me with heels.

It feels fucking horrible. How can I ever enjoy aesthetic nightlife or upper-class areas.

On the flip-side, any gym, walmart, or normie space I go to, I feel 100% fine or even tall sometimes.



How old are you?
Turning 18 soon. Bone age of 18. Done growing. Sometimes I giga cope of gaining an inch from spine jfl.
 
Assuming you can get the full 15cm/6 inches from Paley. I think at 6'6+ it's pretty stupid to risk being crippled (and guarantee being a cripple by age 45) to be 7 feet. I think the point of diminishing returns is 6'4 though, you can fraud to 6'6/6'7 with lifts and boots anyways.
I've been height-mogged to oblivion, but I still get attention thanks to my face, so honestly, I don’t think the risks are worth it. The best way to deal with it is by going for that 'eboymaxx' or 'prettyboymaxx' look. You can just wear lifts or boots—no woman really cares, especially if boots are part of your style. And if a crazy foid says otherwise, just block her and run away.
 
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Let’s say LL can add 3 inches, double LL can add 3 inches, and lifts can add a further 2 inches.

6’4” is ideal, you don’t need to wear lifts but you do have the option to lift up to 6’6” if you have a need to mog, with no loss of appeal.

6’2” can reach max appeal just with lifts.

5’11” can increase his appeal from 30% to 70% with just lifts, is LL worth it for the last 20%? Probably not.

5’9” can only get from 15% to 30% with lifts, he can probably get a girlfriend but LL would more than double his appeal. This is probably the tallest height at which LL is really worth it.

5’6” goes from like 5% to 10% with lifts, it’s basically pointless. Even a single LL only gets him to 30% which is great compared to his starting point but he should consider double LL.

And 5’3” can get to 30% appeal with double LL and lifts. Anyone shorter is completely fucked no matter what.
 
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