At what level on leanness will your collagen be negatively affected?

[Deleted member 12303]

I might have to cut to 6% for bones but I wanna know the side effects

 

[Deleted member 11748]

I might have to cut to 6% for bones but I wanna know the side effects

6% is impossible for natties

at 15% you'll be fine

 

[Deleted member 12303]

6% is impossible for natties

at 15% you'll be fine

6-7% is very possible for natties. 4% is not

 

[Deleted member 11748]

6-7% is very possible for natties. 4% is not

4% is death, no bodybuilder has ever reached under 5%; what are you talking about?

15% will give you a very lean look and will be somewhat maintainable

 

[Deleted member 12303]

4% is death, no bodybuilder has ever reached under 5%; what are you talking about?

15% will give you a very lean look and will be somewhat maintainable

15% is not acceptable even for people with bones I dont think you understand bodyfat percentage. You wont have hollow cheeks at 15% unless you have very good fat distribution.

 

[Deleted member 11748]

15% is not acceptable even for people with bones I dont think you understand bodyfat percentage. You wont have hollow cheeks at 15% unless you have very good fat distribution.

you dont understand bodyfat boyo

 

[Deleted member 12303]

you dont understand bodyfat boyo

Look at literally every hollow cheek guide they say to get sub 10%

 

[Deleted member 11748]

Look at literally every hollow cheek guide they say to get sub 10%

"hollow cheeks guide"

 

[Deleted member 12303]

"hollow cheeks guide"


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Literally every high iq poster would call you wrong low iq moment

 

[Deleted member 11748]

Literally every high iq poster would call you wrong low iq moment

only "high iq user" ik here are @Julian and @RealSurgerymax

 

[Deleted member 8647]

6-7% is very possible for natties. 4% is not

8% leaness is some olympic athlete level shit. Good luck achieving that and keeping it year round with a normal lifestyle

 

[Deleted member 12303]

8% leaness is some olympic athlete level shit. Good luck achieving that and keeping it year round with a normal lifestyle

Maintaining all body fat is the same. Just eat at maitnence calories which is usally 2500. If you cant get by at 2500 calories something is wrong with you.

 

[Deleted member 8647]

Maintaining all body fat is the same. Just eat at maitnence calories which is usally 2500. If you cant get by at 2500 calories something is wrong with you.

I don't know where you got 2500 calories but if you truly think you have the willpower to starvationmax and gymax to be that lean then you should go for it

 

[Wallenberg]

6% is too low. 10 or higher is maintainable and good enough for looks.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

I don't know where you got 2500 calories but if you truly think you have the willpower to starvationmax and gymax to be that lean then you should go for it

You dont need to starve and the average man burns 2500 calories a day. It should be common looksmax knowledge. Maybe 6% is starvation tier but 8%+ isnt unless you diet like a retard.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

6% is too low. 10 or higher is maintainable and good enough for looks.

Yeah ik it is too low but I am boneless af and most people arent. 10% is enough for most people.

 

[Deleted member 8647]

Yeah ik it is too low but I am boneless af and most people arent. 10% is enough for most people.

just know that there are many side effects to being that lean and that you'll probably have to gain and lose weight to not completely die.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

just know that there are many side effects to being that lean and that you'll probably have to gain and lose weight to not completely die.

Get looks or die trying

 

[spark]

4% is death, no bodybuilder has ever reached under 5%; what are you talking about?

15% will give you a very lean look and will be somewhat maintainable

Uhm what? Bodybuilders go under 3% all the time especially during competitions.

 

[Deleted member 11748]

Uhm what? Bodybuilders go under 3% all the time especially during competitions.

you dont know shit about bodybuilding kys

 

[Deleted member 12303]

Uhm what? Bodybuilders go under 3% all the time especially during competitions.

Finally someone that understands bf percentage

 

[Deleted member 9641]

6% is too low. 10 or higher is maintainable and good enough for looks.

This ,I believe the best range is 9-12 %

 

[spark]

you dont know shit about bodybuilding kys

 

[spark]

Finally someone that understands bf percentage

You won't get to 6% without steroids though.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

You won't get to 6% without steroids though.

Yes calorie deficit eventually you will get there

 

[Deleted member 12303]

When I get to 6% I will post pics hack everyone here pay you a visit and shit in your mouth

 

[spark]

Yes calorie deficit eventually you will get there

Wouldn't be surprised if these guys were closer to 10% than to 6%

You will lose muscle with your calorie deficit before you get to 6% bf%.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

Wouldn't be surprised if these guys were closer to 10% than to 6%
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You will lose muscle with your calorie deficit before you get to 6% bf%.

99 percent of starving people have hollow cheeks i need to get that lean

I need to get this lean

 

[Deleted member 8647]

Also op Just so you know, if you're really planning on going to like 6-9% body fat you'll be twink-maxxed and you'll fuck your skin

 

[Deleted member 12303]

Also op Just so you know, if you're really planning on going to like 6-9% body fat you'll be twink-maxxed and you'll fuck your skin

I will run an experiment if anything actually happens I will just fatmaxx

 

[Wallenberg]

Yeah ik it is too low but I am boneless af and most people arent. 10% is enough for most people.

6% will affect your quality of life in negative way

 

[Deleted member 12303]

6% will affect your quality of life in negative way

Having bones will cancel out any sadness I feel

 

[spark]

99 percent of starving people have hollow cheeks i need to get that lean
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I need to get this lean

his 5.3% bf% is frauded just like his weight plates, I am guessing ~7%

it's not ideal to be sub 8% it looks like shit, being closer to 10% is ideal

 

[Deleted member 12303]

his 5.3% bf% is frauded just like his weight plates, I am guessing ~7%

it's not ideal to be sub 8% it looks like shit, being closer to 10% is ideal

Okay maybe I will get bones at 7-8%. I did alot of research and bodybuilders say at sub 8 they start to feel like shit.

 

[Deleted member 8647]

Having bones will cancel out any sadness I feel

low libido cancels out the pussy that you would get

 

[Deleted member 12303]

low libido cancels out the pussy that you would get

True I have no libido even when dieting rn and I am like 20% rn

 

[Deleted member 5185]

6% is impossible for natties

at 15% you'll be fine

Depends on the person. Some natties just walk around at ridiculous bodyfatlevels, probably because of low ghrelin production / high activity levels.

 

[Deleted member 11748]

Depends on the person. Some natties just walk around at ridiculous bodyfatlevels, probably because of low ghrelin production / high activity levels.

let's not get into the specifics. Im right and hes not.

 

[Deleted member 5185]

let's not get into the specifics. Im right and hes not.

If you said "most people" you'd be right. Saying it is impossible is wrong.

 

[Deleted member 11748]

If you said "most people" you'd be right. Saying it is impossible is wrong.

no you are wrong, it's impossible to go below 6% natty.

 

[Apeiron]

and keeping it year round with a normal lifestyle

we’re not trying to be normies here

 

[Deleted member 5185]

no you are wrong, it's impossible to go below 6% natty.

First of all, he didn't say "below" 6%, he said get to 6%.

Second of all, being natural or not is irrelevant. Steroids has nothing to do with absolute leanness. It is a matter of energy balance. If you stop eating, you will reach 6% and below.

 

[Deleted member 5061]

99 percent of starving people have hollow cheeks i need to get that lean
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99 percent of starving people dont have hollow cheeks, they have sunken in midface, cheeks and everything else. When you can see the outline of the maxilla, teeth etc. on a face- it looks giga malnourished, sickly or old. Only sick ppl, anorexic ppl or old ppl have a face that looks like it is auschwitz-maxxed.

Theres a big difference between the aesthetic hollow cheeks and the rest of the face looking healthy at the same time with decently sized fatpads, which signal youth and health AND "lean" auschwitz-maxxed face with zero fatpads, giga wrinkly/foldy/depleted collagen etc.

You seem to not get the point. A good bone-rich and forward grown face will look lean even at 15% bf or higher. Also at that bf %age, the rest of the skin tissue looks healthy.

If one needs to starvation-maxx for a lean face, its not even worth it. It also fucks up the hormonal balance when the body is constantly running close to red health bar in permanent survival mode / perma stress mode.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

99 percent of starving people dont have hollow cheeks, they have sunken in midface, cheeks and everything else. When you can see the outline of the maxilla, teeth etc. on a face- it looks giga malnourished, sickly or old. Only sick ppl, anorexic ppl or old ppl have a face that looks like it is auschwitz-maxxed.

Theres a big difference between the aesthetic hollow cheeks and the rest of the face looking healthy at the same time with decently sized fatpads, which signal youth and health AND "lean" auschwitz-maxxed face with zero fatpads, giga wrinkly/foldy/depleted collagen etc.

You seem to not get the point. A good bone-rich face will look lean even at 15% bf or higher. Also at that bf %age, the rest of the skin tissue looks healthy.

If one needs to starvation-maxx for a lean face, its not even worth it. It also fucks up the hormonal balance when the body is constantly running close to red health bar in permanent survival mode.

I hope I will have it at 8% then

 

[Deleted member 8165]

below 8% is starvation tear

 

[Deleted member 5061]

I hope I will have it at 8% then

Just try things out, figure out the limit that still feels healthy.
Ppl get carried away too much with "muh I need a lean face at any cost". I'd argue that there are more effective and maintainable ways to achieve a lean face without sperging out with auschwitz-maxxing.

Things like face yoga- engaging groups of certain muscles regularly. If you train your mind to do it subconsciously, without even thinking about it, it will be the biggest looksmax for lean face, even at higher bf%age.

BUT- a big warning, any and all exercises of facial muscles must never be overdone. One needs to be very careful to avoid overtraining certain facial muscles, as it can backfire rather quickly and create unwanted folds/wrinkles etc.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

Just try things out, figure out the limit that still feels healthy.
Ppl get carried away too much with "muh I need a lean face at any cost". I'd argue that there are more effective and maintainable ways to achieve a lean face without sperging out with auschwitz-maxxing.

Things like face yoga- engaging groups of certain muscles regularly. If you train your mind to do it subconsciously, without even thinking about it, it will be the biggest looksmax for lean face, even at higher bf%age.

BUT- a big warning, any and all exercises of facial muscles must never be overdone. One needs to be very careful to avoid overtraining certain facial muscles, as it can backfire rather quickly and create unwanted folds/wrinkles etc.

Spot fat reduction does not exist

 

[drbloop]

Having bones will cancel out any sadness I feel

You'll have bones at 10% (unless you're subhuman), you just have your percentages off. You'll think you're 6% at 10% when you look in the mirror sounds like.

 

[Wallenberg]

If you don't have bones at 10%, I suspect you won't look much better or better at all at 6%. You just suffer from lower quality of life because too low body fat percentage affects how your body works.

 

[Deleted member 12303]

You'll have bones at 10% (unless you're subhuman), you just have your percentages off. You'll think you're 6% at 10% when you look in the mirror sounds like.

Yeah I dont know if I will have bones at 10 because I am 20 and I have literally no ogee curve