Averageness and why it mogs; Why high averageness + 1 striking feature is ideal.

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This is my 1000th post which is a big personal defeat for me :lul:


Got me thinking about the overall experience of being here and getting increasingly more obssessed with the BP mindset and viewpoint.

But instead of writing a thread about that (which I will one day for sure). I decided to pollute my mind a bit more with the blackpill. Some people misunderstand the topic of averageness so let me try to explain.



Averageness


The topic is averageness and why it is so important. Most experienced (and/or high IQ) users can agree that it is one of the most important aspects of facial aesthetics.

But what is it? It's just many average features.


"Possible evolutionary explanation for averageness is koinophilia, in which sexually-reproducing animals seek mates with primarily average features, because extreme and uncommon features are likely to indicate disadvantageous mutations."




Example of someone whose many features are above average (making him low in averageness) is Hernan Drago.

Even most users here can agree (and we are autistic as fuck, our subconcious is convoluted/polluted with the idea of attractivness; we can't be totally objective), Drago's face just doesn't click.
It isn't too appealing on first or a 100th look.


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Where is the averageness? He has top 1% eyes,nose, cheekbones, jaw, eyebrows and hair. Perfect facial thirds and fifths, perfect symmetry.

There is too much going on here for a human mind to comprehend, it just overall looks too unnatural because you never meet people who look like this.


Drago suffers from too many striking features aswell
.
His eyes are too distracting on their own (especially with his eyebrow and hair colour) - and they should be the striking feature. However he also has insane zygos, hollow cheeks, a perfect nose...
Making it too difficult to focus on one feature and making him look too unfamiliar, strange, dangerous (alien looking basically).


1 striking feature + high averageness is ideal



Look at this asymmetrical chad.

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Easily appeal mogs Drago. Walker has high averageness and 1 striking feature which are his light blue eyes (eye area being the striking feature is ideal).
Walker also has above average zygos but that's about it. Nothing really striking except for his eyes which take most of the attention away.
If you were to ask people/women about him, they would probably remember he had blue eyes and was handsome (Proving my theory basically).

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Walker from the profile view. Nothing really stands out in a black and white picture. Above average bone structure only because a regular human is recessed.

More examples of high averagness + light blue eyes being chad appeal

Chris Pine


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Zac Efron


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And almost every other actor who has light blue eyes + dark brows/hair combo:lul:



Another chad with a different striking feature is Brad Pitt.

What is the striking feature for Brad?










It's his insanely wide jaw.

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You tell me are there any other features that stand out? His eye area is above average but his eyes aren't big or light enough, nor are his eyebrows dense, dark or low set enough to give them contrast needed for his eye area to be a striking feature.


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Where is the forward growth (both mandible and maxilla are average)? Where are his zygos? Nothing special about his bone structure.

Brad is high in averageness which makes him relatable looking, with his striking feature being his jaw making him have that masculine rememberance about his appearance.


Another example is George Clooney.

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Clooney's jaw is very developed giving him a masculine look in motion. Clooney is also a good example of how high averageness mogs from the front (even without any striking features) where his jaw/chin isn't as visible.


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You can see his mandible better from this angle, and here it is - a striking feature.


Their collague Johnny Depp is a good example of hollow cheeks being a primary striking feature (jfl at copers hollow cheeks, are a huge halo).

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Depp has decent zygos and eye area + average everything else.

Notice how much worse he looks in different lightning here

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Huge appeal drop because his striking feature isn't visible here.



Striking feature is also a halo


Striking feature(s) is the first feature an average human will look at. When it's above average and it always is by default; it halos the rest of your face. People automatically (subconciously) assume other features are better than they are (people will always remember Paul Walker as handsome).



Low averageness almost always makes you look alien


Here are some examples of alien looking PSL gods that lack averageness and have too many striking features.


Elias De Poot

Model elias de poot walks on the runway during the michael kors fashion show at new york fashi



Average? Almost nothing
Above average? Almost everything
Striking features? Eyes, zygos, hollow cheeks.

Certified alien.


Sean O'Pry


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Average? Forehead :lul::lul:
Above average? Everything else (most features are too rare here, as much as they are desirable, it's simply too much)
Striking features? Eyes, hollow cheeks, jaw, chin...


Certified alien.


I could go on with more models but there is no point.




Hunter eyes can be a falio


Notice how hunter eyes make O'Pry, De Poot and Drago look malicious.
This is exactly what pushes them over the edge into the uncanny valley in my opinion.

I think all 3 would be weird looking anyway but those hunter eyes just seal the deal.




Averageness without striking features still mogs



These faces are relatable, relaxing and look familiar. People who look like this socialize (and slay) easier. This is all a factor for who mogs.


Robert Downey Jr.

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Very high averageness with no striking features. Even some visible falios like nct but still looks good and has appeal. I would argue he mogs De Poot with how unpleasant De Poot is making me feel (looks evil fr:lul::lul:).





Angelic appeal mogs all


The real ideal is angelic appeal. Although this is very rare (and hard to define).


Michal Mrazik

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Not high in averageness, a few striking features and insane colouring (but not distracting like Drago or O'Pry) should make him uncanny.

His beauty is more subtle with emphasis on features being less sharp
; all of which is making him look more approachable and human.




Vasily Stepanov


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His features are not average, not even close. More robust than Mrazik but with a very favourable colouring. This works even though it is low averageness because he looks more approachable. The colouring makes him look divine/angelic.


Basically the difference between an alien who looks like a fallen angel (divine beauty) and an alien who looks like he is there to plot a world takeover (I wouldn't trust De Poot with anything:lul:) is colouring (and hunter eyes).






So in what category is Chico?

Lachowski is very high in averageness with his height and skull size being striking ; making him stand out like a giant in the best way possible. Keep in mind all of Chico's features are in the higher levels of average.

He is a weird and rare combination; which is why his appeal is so debated and polarizing.

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Also a proof that height is a striking feature on its own.
I met a chad few weeks ago who had extremely high averageness, no falios and no striking features facially, but he was 6 foot 4 on a good frame. This combination is more than enough for giga chad appeal.





Conclusion


In conclusion, the concept of averageness is crucial in facial aesthetics, as it reflects evolutionary preferences for average features over extreme ones.
Striking features can enhance attractiveness if balanced with high averageness. Examples like Paul Walker and Brad Pitt illustrate how a single striking feature combined with high averageness can be appealing.
Conversely, those with numerous striking features, like Hernan Drago, may appear unnatural or alien.

Ultimately, the ideal balance involves high averageness with one or two striking features, which can create a more universally appealing and relatable appearance.


Thanks GPT for writing the conclusion
 
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Yup, this is what most ppl on the forum fail to grasp
 
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Let me guess, there's no way to improve this
 
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if botb actually got updated more than once a year this would belong in there ngl
 
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This is my 1000th post which is a big personal defeat for me :lul:


Got me thinking about the overall experience of being here and getting increasingly more obssessed with the BP mindset and viewpoint.

But instead of writing a thread about that (which I will one day for sure). I decided to pollute my mind a bit more with the blackpill. Some people misunderstand the topic of averageness so let me try to explain.



Averageness


The topic is averageness and why it is so important. Most experienced (and/or high IQ) users can agree that it is one of the most important aspects of facial aesthetics.

But what is it? It's just many average features.


"Possible evolutionary explanation for averageness is koinophilia, in which sexually-reproducing animals seek mates with primarily average features, because extreme and uncommon features are likely to indicate disadvantageous mutations."




Example of someone whose many features are above average (making him low in averageness) is Hernan Drago.

Even most users here can agree (and we are autistic as fuck, our subconcious is convoluted/polluted with the idea of attractivness; we can't be totally objective), Drago's face just doesn't click.
It isn't too appealing on first or a 100th look.


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Where is the averageness? He has top 1% eyes,nose, cheekbones, jaw, eyebrows and hair. Perfect facial thirds and fifths, perfect symmetry.

There is too much going on here for a human mind to comprehend, it just overall looks too unnatural because you never meet people who look like this.


Drago suffers from too many striking features aswell
.
His eyes are too distracting on their own (especially with his eyebrow and hair colour) - and they should be the striking feature. However he also has insane zygos, hollow cheeks, a perfect nose...
Making it too difficult to focus on one feature and making him look too unfamiliar, strange, dangerous (alien looking basically).


1 striking feature + high averageness is ideal



Look at this asymmetrical chad.

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Easily appeal mogs Drago. Walker has high averageness and 1 striking feature which are his light blue eyes (eye area being the striking feature is ideal).
Walker also has above average zygos but that's about it. Nothing really striking except for his eyes which take most of the attention away.
If you were to ask people/women about him, they would probably remember he had blue eyes and was handsome (Proving my theory basically).

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Walker from the profile view. Nothing really stands out in a black and white picture. Above average bone structure only because a regular human is recessed.

More examples of high averagness + light blue eyes being chad appeal

Chris Pine


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Zac Efron


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And almost every other actor who has light blue eyes + dark brows/hair combo:lul:



Another chad with a different striking feature is Brad Pitt.

What is the striking feature for Brad?










It's his insanely wide jaw.

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You tell me are there any other features that stand out? His eye area is above average but his eyes aren't big or light enough, nor are his eyebrows dense, dark or low set enough to give them contrast needed for his eye area to be a striking feature.


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Where is the forward growth (both mandible and maxilla are average)? Where are his zygos? Nothing special about his bone structure.

Brad is high in averageness which makes him relatable looking, with his striking feature being his jaw making him have that masculine rememberance about his appearance.


Another example is George Clooney.

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Clooney's jaw is very developed giving him a masculine look in motion. Clooney is also a good example of how high averageness mogs from the front (even without any striking features) where his jaw/chin isn't as visible.


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You can see his mandible better from this angle, and here it is - a striking feature.


Their collague Johnny Depp is a good example of hollow cheeks being a primary striking feature (jfl at copers hollow cheeks, are a huge halo).

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Depp has decent zygos and eye area + average everything else.

Notice how much worse he looks in different lightning here

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Huge appeal drop because his striking feature isn't visible here.



Striking feature is also a halo


Striking feature(s) is the first feature an average human will look at. When it's above average and it always is by default; it halos the rest of your face. People automatically (subconciously) assume other features are better than they are (people will always remember Paul Walker as handsome).



Low averageness almost always makes you look alien


Here are some examples of alien looking PSL gods that lack averageness and have too many striking features.


Elias De Poot

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Average? Almost nothing
Above average? Almost everything
Striking features? Eyes, zygos, hollow cheeks.

Certified alien.


Sean O'Pry


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Average? Forehead :lul::lul:
Above average? Everything else (most features are too rare here, as much as they are desirable, it's simply too much)
Striking features? Eyes, hollow cheeks, jaw, chin...


Certified alien.


I could go on with more models but there is no point.




Hunter eyes can be a falio


Notice how hunter eyes make O'Pry, De Poot and Drago look malicious.
This is exactly what pushes them over the edge into the uncanny valley in my opinion.

I think all 3 would be weird looking anyway but those hunter eyes just seal the deal.




Averageness without striking features still mogs



These faces are relatable, relaxing and look familiar. People who look like this socialize (and slay) easier. This is all a factor for who mogs.


Robert Downey Jr.

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Very high averageness with no striking features. Even some visible falios like nct but still looks good and has appeal. I would argue he mogs De Poot with how unpleasant De Poot is making me feel (looks evil fr:lul::lul:).





Angelic appeal mogs all


The real ideal is angelic appeal. Although this is very rare (and hard to define).


Michal Mrazik

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Not high in averageness, a few striking features and insane colouring (but not distracting like Drago or O'Pry) should make him uncanny.

His beauty is more subtle with emphasis on features being less sharp
; all of which is making him look more approachable and human.




Vasily Stepanov


View attachment 3015291

His features are not average, not even close. More robust than Mrazik but with a very favourable colouring. This works even though it is low averageness because he looks more approachable. The colouring makes him look divine/angelic.


Basically the difference between an alien who looks like a fallen angel (divine beauty) and an alien who looks like he is there to plot a world takeover (I wouldn't trust De Poot with anything:lul:) is colouring (and hunter eyes).






So in what category is Chico?

Lachowski is very high in averageness with his height and skull size being striking ; making him stand out like a giant in the best way possible. Keep in mind all of Chico's features are in the higher levels of average.

He is a weird and rare combination; which is why his appeal is so debated and polarizing.

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Also a proof that height is a striking feature on its own.
I met a chad few weeks ago who had extremely high averageness, no falios and no striking features facially, but he was 6 foot 4 on a good frame. This combination is more than enough for giga chad appeal.





Conclusion


In conclusion, the concept of averageness is crucial in facial aesthetics, as it reflects evolutionary preferences for average features over extreme ones.
Striking features can enhance attractiveness if balanced with high averageness. Examples like Paul Walker and Brad Pitt illustrate how a single striking feature combined with high averageness can be appealing.
Conversely, those with numerous striking features, like Hernan Drago, may appear unnatural or alien.

Ultimately, the ideal balance involves high averageness with one or two striking features, which can create a more universally appealing and relatable appearance.


Thanks GPT for writing the conclusion
The thing about the uncanny valley is if you keep going, it eventually ends and you achieve the looks of a god
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I tried fixing some of Dragos issues, his overly wide skull for one.
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Let me guess, there's no way to improve this

This is an informational thread but this info can be used, especially if hardmaxxing.

Most people go for the ideal features when deciding to go through surgery (understandable tbh) which is often a mistake because it throws their harmony off since there is no needed balance of averageness. I only advise big changes if you are extremely recessed or if you are looking for striking features via surgery.

For most of us this is pointless as far as looksmaxxing goes, but it's still good to at least understand the concept.

Averageness is also why some seemingly average people have very high appeal (appeal is the only thing that matters anyway), so this information can help you rate too, and also not be too hard on yourself if you lack ideal features.
 
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This is my 1000th post which is a big personal defeat for me :lul:


Got me thinking about the overall experience of being here and getting increasingly more obssessed with the BP mindset and viewpoint.

But instead of writing a thread about that (which I will one day for sure). I decided to pollute my mind a bit more with the blackpill. Some people misunderstand the topic of averageness so let me try to explain.



Averageness


The topic is averageness and why it is so important. Most experienced (and/or high IQ) users can agree that it is one of the most important aspects of facial aesthetics.

But what is it? It's just many average features.


"Possible evolutionary explanation for averageness is koinophilia, in which sexually-reproducing animals seek mates with primarily average features, because extreme and uncommon features are likely to indicate disadvantageous mutations."




Example of someone whose many features are above average (making him low in averageness) is Hernan Drago.

Even most users here can agree (and we are autistic as fuck, our subconcious is convoluted/polluted with the idea of attractivness; we can't be totally objective), Drago's face just doesn't click.
It isn't too appealing on first or a 100th look.


View attachment 3015151

Where is the averageness? He has top 1% eyes,nose, cheekbones, jaw, eyebrows and hair. Perfect facial thirds and fifths, perfect symmetry.

There is too much going on here for a human mind to comprehend, it just overall looks too unnatural because you never meet people who look like this.


Drago suffers from too many striking features aswell
.
His eyes are too distracting on their own (especially with his eyebrow and hair colour) - and they should be the striking feature. However he also has insane zygos, hollow cheeks, a perfect nose...
Making it too difficult to focus on one feature and making him look too unfamiliar, strange, dangerous (alien looking basically).


1 striking feature + high averageness is ideal



Look at this asymmetrical chad.

View attachment 3015186


Easily appeal mogs Drago. Walker has high averageness and 1 striking feature which are his light blue eyes (eye area being the striking feature is ideal).
Walker also has above average zygos but that's about it. Nothing really striking except for his eyes which take most of the attention away.
If you were to ask people/women about him, they would probably remember he had blue eyes and was handsome (Proving my theory basically).

View attachment 3015198

Walker from the profile view. Nothing really stands out in a black and white picture. Above average bone structure only because a regular human is recessed.

More examples of high averagness + light blue eyes being chad appeal

Chris Pine


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Zac Efron


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And almost every other actor who has light blue eyes + dark brows/hair combo:lul:



Another chad with a different striking feature is Brad Pitt.

What is the striking feature for Brad?










It's his insanely wide jaw.

View attachment 3015202


You tell me are there any other features that stand out? His eye area is above average but his eyes aren't big or light enough, nor are his eyebrows dense, dark or low set enough to give them contrast needed for his eye area to be a striking feature.


View attachment 3015205

Where is the forward growth (both mandible and maxilla are average)? Where are his zygos? Nothing special about his bone structure.

Brad is high in averageness which makes him relatable looking, with his striking feature being his jaw making him have that masculine rememberance about his appearance.


Another example is George Clooney.

View attachment 3015318

Clooney's jaw is very developed giving him a masculine look in motion. Clooney is also a good example of how high averageness mogs from the front (even without any striking features) where his jaw/chin isn't as visible.


View attachment 3015322

You can see his mandible better from this angle, and here it is - a striking feature.


Their collague Johnny Depp is a good example of hollow cheeks being a primary striking feature (jfl at copers hollow cheeks, are a huge halo).

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Depp has decent zygos and eye area + average everything else.

Notice how much worse he looks in different lightning here

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Huge appeal drop because his striking feature isn't visible here.



Striking feature is also a halo


Striking feature(s) is the first feature an average human will look at. When it's above average and it always is by default; it halos the rest of your face. People automatically (subconciously) assume other features are better than they are (people will always remember Paul Walker as handsome).



Low averageness almost always makes you look alien


Here are some examples of alien looking PSL gods that lack averageness and have too many striking features.


Elias De Poot

View attachment 3015249


Average? Almost nothing
Above average? Almost everything
Striking features? Eyes, zygos, hollow cheeks.

Certified alien.


Sean O'Pry


View attachment 3015275


Average? Forehead :lul::lul:
Above average? Everything else (most features are too rare here, as much as they are desirable, it's simply too much)
Striking features? Eyes, hollow cheeks, jaw, chin...


Certified alien.


I could go on with more models but there is no point.




Hunter eyes can be a falio


Notice how hunter eyes make O'Pry, De Poot and Drago look malicious.
This is exactly what pushes them over the edge into the uncanny valley in my opinion.

I think all 3 would be weird looking anyway but those hunter eyes just seal the deal.




Averageness without striking features still mogs



These faces are relatable, relaxing and look familiar. People who look like this socialize (and slay) easier. This is all a factor for who mogs.


Robert Downey Jr.

View attachment 3015311

Very high averageness with no striking features. Even some visible falios like nct but still looks good and has appeal. I would argue he mogs De Poot with how unpleasant De Poot is making me feel (looks evil fr:lul::lul:).





Angelic appeal mogs all


The real ideal is angelic appeal. Although this is very rare (and hard to define).


Michal Mrazik

View attachment 3015283


Not high in averageness, a few striking features and insane colouring (but not distracting like Drago or O'Pry) should make him uncanny.

His beauty is more subtle with emphasis on features being less sharp
; all of which is making him look more approachable and human.




Vasily Stepanov


View attachment 3015291

His features are not average, not even close. More robust than Mrazik but with a very favourable colouring. This works even though it is low averageness because he looks more approachable. The colouring makes him look divine/angelic.


Basically the difference between an alien who looks like a fallen angel (divine beauty) and an alien who looks like he is there to plot a world takeover (I wouldn't trust De Poot with anything:lul:) is colouring (and hunter eyes).






So in what category is Chico?

Lachowski is very high in averageness with his height and skull size being striking ; making him stand out like a giant in the best way possible. Keep in mind all of Chico's features are in the higher levels of average.

He is a weird and rare combination; which is why his appeal is so debated and polarizing.

View attachment 3015334

Also a proof that height is a striking feature on its own.
I met a chad few weeks ago who had extremely high averageness, no falios and no striking features facially, but he was 6 foot 4 on a good frame. This combination is more than enough for giga chad appeal.





Conclusion


In conclusion, the concept of averageness is crucial in facial aesthetics, as it reflects evolutionary preferences for average features over extreme ones.
Striking features can enhance attractiveness if balanced with high averageness. Examples like Paul Walker and Brad Pitt illustrate how a single striking feature combined with high averageness can be appealing.
Conversely, those with numerous striking features, like Hernan Drago, may appear unnatural or alien.

Ultimately, the ideal balance involves high averageness with one or two striking features, which can create a more universally appealing and relatable appearance.


Thanks GPT for writing the conclusion
Dude you forgot about Matt Bomer's
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Drago mogs hard, look at him in this tv show, he has all good features but still look natural and good

 
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Let me guess, there's no way to improve this
there is, you just have to improve some features that boost your facial harmony/give you a higher appeal
 
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None of this shit ACTUALLY matters lil bro. Being good looking mogs. Being ugly sucks. Thankfully im a slayer
 
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Wtf is even average features? All those dudes have many of above average features. I seen guys with good ratios but they still look shit because lack good features. You need to have good jaw and eye area to look good. The other features aint that important.
 
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I think high facial averageness and being around 6`3 will work best for slaying in everyday life. But if you are not lucky to be that tall you`ll need some striking features
 
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I think high facial averageness and being around 6`3 will work best for slaying in everyday life. But if you are not lucky to be that tall you`ll need some striking features
I agree. Height + high averageness is hard to mog. I focused mostly on facial striking features but height is the striking feature to have.
Also because height isn't taking the attention away like other striking features I mentioned, therefore making room for other striking features without a fear of looking strange and alien; like the examples above.

It's absolutely certain it's just going to make you look better overall.
 
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This is my 1000th post which is a big personal defeat for me :lul:


Got me thinking about the overall experience of being here and getting increasingly more obssessed with the BP mindset and viewpoint.

But instead of writing a thread about that (which I will one day for sure). I decided to pollute my mind a bit more with the blackpill. Some people misunderstand the topic of averageness so let me try to explain.



Averageness


The topic is averageness and why it is so important. Most experienced (and/or high IQ) users can agree that it is one of the most important aspects of facial aesthetics.

But what is it? It's just many average features.


"Possible evolutionary explanation for averageness is koinophilia, in which sexually-reproducing animals seek mates with primarily average features, because extreme and uncommon features are likely to indicate disadvantageous mutations."




Example of someone whose many features are above average (making him low in averageness) is Hernan Drago.

Even most users here can agree (and we are autistic as fuck, our subconcious is convoluted/polluted with the idea of attractivness; we can't be totally objective), Drago's face just doesn't click.
It isn't too appealing on first or a 100th look.


View attachment 3015151

Where is the averageness? He has top 1% eyes,nose, cheekbones, jaw, eyebrows and hair. Perfect facial thirds and fifths, perfect symmetry.

There is too much going on here for a human mind to comprehend, it just overall looks too unnatural because you never meet people who look like this.


Drago suffers from too many striking features aswell
.
His eyes are too distracting on their own (especially with his eyebrow and hair colour) - and they should be the striking feature. However he also has insane zygos, hollow cheeks, a perfect nose...
Making it too difficult to focus on one feature and making him look too unfamiliar, strange, dangerous (alien looking basically).


1 striking feature + high averageness is ideal



Look at this asymmetrical chad.

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Easily appeal mogs Drago. Walker has high averageness and 1 striking feature which are his light blue eyes (eye area being the striking feature is ideal).
Walker also has above average zygos but that's about it. Nothing really striking except for his eyes which take most of the attention away.
If you were to ask people/women about him, they would probably remember he had blue eyes and was handsome (Proving my theory basically).

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Walker from the profile view. Nothing really stands out in a black and white picture. Above average bone structure only because a regular human is recessed.

More examples of high averagness + light blue eyes being chad appeal

Chris Pine


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Zac Efron


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And almost every other actor who has light blue eyes + dark brows/hair combo:lul:



Another chad with a different striking feature is Brad Pitt.

What is the striking feature for Brad?










It's his insanely wide jaw.

View attachment 3015202


You tell me are there any other features that stand out? His eye area is above average but his eyes aren't big or light enough, nor are his eyebrows dense, dark or low set enough to give them contrast needed for his eye area to be a striking feature.


View attachment 3015205

Where is the forward growth (both mandible and maxilla are average)? Where are his zygos? Nothing special about his bone structure.

Brad is high in averageness which makes him relatable looking, with his striking feature being his jaw making him have that masculine rememberance about his appearance.


Another example is George Clooney.

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Clooney's jaw is very developed giving him a masculine look in motion. Clooney is also a good example of how high averageness mogs from the front (even without any striking features) where his jaw/chin isn't as visible.


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You can see his mandible better from this angle, and here it is - a striking feature.


Their collague Johnny Depp is a good example of hollow cheeks being a primary striking feature (jfl at copers hollow cheeks, are a huge halo).

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Depp has decent zygos and eye area + average everything else.

Notice how much worse he looks in different lightning here

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Huge appeal drop because his striking feature isn't visible here.



Striking feature is also a halo


Striking feature(s) is the first feature an average human will look at. When it's above average and it always is by default; it halos the rest of your face. People automatically (subconciously) assume other features are better than they are (people will always remember Paul Walker as handsome).



Low averageness almost always makes you look alien


Here are some examples of alien looking PSL gods that lack averageness and have too many striking features.


Elias De Poot

View attachment 3015249


Average? Almost nothing
Above average? Almost everything
Striking features? Eyes, zygos, hollow cheeks.

Certified alien.


Sean O'Pry


View attachment 3015275


Average? Forehead :lul::lul:
Above average? Everything else (most features are too rare here, as much as they are desirable, it's simply too much)
Striking features? Eyes, hollow cheeks, jaw, chin...


Certified alien.


I could go on with more models but there is no point.




Hunter eyes can be a falio


Notice how hunter eyes make O'Pry, De Poot and Drago look malicious.
This is exactly what pushes them over the edge into the uncanny valley in my opinion.

I think all 3 would be weird looking anyway but those hunter eyes just seal the deal.




Averageness without striking features still mogs



These faces are relatable, relaxing and look familiar. People who look like this socialize (and slay) easier. This is all a factor for who mogs.


Robert Downey Jr.

View attachment 3015311

Very high averageness with no striking features. Even some visible falios like nct but still looks good and has appeal. I would argue he mogs De Poot with how unpleasant De Poot is making me feel (looks evil fr:lul::lul:).





Angelic appeal mogs all


The real ideal is angelic appeal. Although this is very rare (and hard to define).


Michal Mrazik

View attachment 3015283


Not high in averageness, a few striking features and insane colouring (but not distracting like Drago or O'Pry) should make him uncanny.

His beauty is more subtle with emphasis on features being less sharp
; all of which is making him look more approachable and human.




Vasily Stepanov


View attachment 3015291

His features are not average, not even close. More robust than Mrazik but with a very favourable colouring. This works even though it is low averageness because he looks more approachable. The colouring makes him look divine/angelic.


Basically the difference between an alien who looks like a fallen angel (divine beauty) and an alien who looks like he is there to plot a world takeover (I wouldn't trust De Poot with anything:lul:) is colouring (and hunter eyes).






So in what category is Chico?

Lachowski is very high in averageness with his height and skull size being striking ; making him stand out like a giant in the best way possible. Keep in mind all of Chico's features are in the higher levels of average.

He is a weird and rare combination; which is why his appeal is so debated and polarizing.

View attachment 3015334

Also a proof that height is a striking feature on its own.
I met a chad few weeks ago who had extremely high averageness, no falios and no striking features facially, but he was 6 foot 4 on a good frame. This combination is more than enough for giga chad appeal.





Conclusion


In conclusion, the concept of averageness is crucial in facial aesthetics, as it reflects evolutionary preferences for average features over extreme ones.
Striking features can enhance attractiveness if balanced with high averageness. Examples like Paul Walker and Brad Pitt illustrate how a single striking feature combined with high averageness can be appealing.
Conversely, those with numerous striking features, like Hernan Drago, may appear unnatural or alien.

Ultimately, the ideal balance involves high averageness with one or two striking features, which can create a more universally appealing and relatable appearance.


Thanks GPT for writing the conclusion
Ofc harmony mog features, u are confusing yourself JFL
 
None of this shit ACTUALLY matters lil bro. Being good looking mogs. Being ugly sucks. Thankfully im a slayer
Any one who has a Richard pfp is not a slayer :lul:
 
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Any one who has a Richard pfp is not a slayer :lul:
Not only that, they completely misunderstand appeal.

Imagine thinking that low class ape is peak aestetics :lul::lul::lul::lul:

Next thread I write will be about the importance of looking high class, another one of overlooked and misunderstood aspects of overall appeal.
 
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This is my 1000th post which is a big personal defeat for me :lul:


Got me thinking about the overall experience of being here and getting increasingly more obssessed with the BP mindset and viewpoint.

But instead of writing a thread about that (which I will one day for sure). I decided to pollute my mind a bit more with the blackpill. Some people misunderstand the topic of averageness so let me try to explain.



Averageness


The topic is averageness and why it is so important. Most experienced (and/or high IQ) users can agree that it is one of the most important aspects of facial aesthetics.

But what is it? It's just many average features.


"Possible evolutionary explanation for averageness is koinophilia, in which sexually-reproducing animals seek mates with primarily average features, because extreme and uncommon features are likely to indicate disadvantageous mutations."




Example of someone whose many features are above average (making him low in averageness) is Hernan Drago.

Even most users here can agree (and we are autistic as fuck, our subconcious is convoluted/polluted with the idea of attractivness; we can't be totally objective), Drago's face just doesn't click.
It isn't too appealing on first or a 100th look.


View attachment 3015151

Where is the averageness? He has top 1% eyes,nose, cheekbones, jaw, eyebrows and hair. Perfect facial thirds and fifths, perfect symmetry.

There is too much going on here for a human mind to comprehend, it just overall looks too unnatural because you never meet people who look like this.


Drago suffers from too many striking features aswell
.
His eyes are too distracting on their own (especially with his eyebrow and hair colour) - and they should be the striking feature. However he also has insane zygos, hollow cheeks, a perfect nose...
Making it too difficult to focus on one feature and making him look too unfamiliar, strange, dangerous (alien looking basically).


1 striking feature + high averageness is ideal



Look at this asymmetrical chad.

View attachment 3015186


Easily appeal mogs Drago. Walker has high averageness and 1 striking feature which are his light blue eyes (eye area being the striking feature is ideal).
Walker also has above average zygos but that's about it. Nothing really striking except for his eyes which take most of the attention away.
If you were to ask people/women about him, they would probably remember he had blue eyes and was handsome (Proving my theory basically).

View attachment 3015198

Walker from the profile view. Nothing really stands out in a black and white picture. Above average bone structure only because a regular human is recessed.

More examples of high averagness + light blue eyes being chad appeal

Chris Pine


View attachment 3015219

Zac Efron


View attachment 3015221


And almost every other actor who has light blue eyes + dark brows/hair combo:lul:



Another chad with a different striking feature is Brad Pitt.

What is the striking feature for Brad?










It's his insanely wide jaw.

View attachment 3015202


You tell me are there any other features that stand out? His eye area is above average but his eyes aren't big or light enough, nor are his eyebrows dense, dark or low set enough to give them contrast needed for his eye area to be a striking feature.


View attachment 3015205

Where is the forward growth (both mandible and maxilla are average)? Where are his zygos? Nothing special about his bone structure.

Brad is high in averageness which makes him relatable looking, with his striking feature being his jaw making him have that masculine rememberance about his appearance.


Another example is George Clooney.

View attachment 3015318

Clooney's jaw is very developed giving him a masculine look in motion. Clooney is also a good example of how high averageness mogs from the front (even without any striking features) where his jaw/chin isn't as visible.


View attachment 3015322

You can see his mandible better from this angle, and here it is - a striking feature.


Their collague Johnny Depp is a good example of hollow cheeks being a primary striking feature (jfl at copers hollow cheeks, are a huge halo).

View attachment 3015235


Depp has decent zygos and eye area + average everything else.

Notice how much worse he looks in different lightning here

View attachment 3015238

Huge appeal drop because his striking feature isn't visible here.



Striking feature is also a halo


Striking feature(s) is the first feature an average human will look at. When it's above average and it always is by default; it halos the rest of your face. People automatically (subconciously) assume other features are better than they are (people will always remember Paul Walker as handsome).



Low averageness almost always makes you look alien


Here are some examples of alien looking PSL gods that lack averageness and have too many striking features.


Elias De Poot

View attachment 3015249


Average? Almost nothing
Above average? Almost everything
Striking features? Eyes, zygos, hollow cheeks.

Certified alien.


Sean O'Pry


View attachment 3015275


Average? Forehead :lul::lul:
Above average? Everything else (most features are too rare here, as much as they are desirable, it's simply too much)
Striking features? Eyes, hollow cheeks, jaw, chin...


Certified alien.


I could go on with more models but there is no point.




Hunter eyes can be a falio


Notice how hunter eyes make O'Pry, De Poot and Drago look malicious.
This is exactly what pushes them over the edge into the uncanny valley in my opinion.

I think all 3 would be weird looking anyway but those hunter eyes just seal the deal.




Averageness without striking features still mogs



These faces are relatable, relaxing and look familiar. People who look like this socialize (and slay) easier. This is all a factor for who mogs.


Robert Downey Jr.

View attachment 3015311

Very high averageness with no striking features. Even some visible falios like nct but still looks good and has appeal. I would argue he mogs De Poot with how unpleasant De Poot is making me feel (looks evil fr:lul::lul:).





Angelic appeal mogs all


The real ideal is angelic appeal. Although this is very rare (and hard to define).


Michal Mrazik

View attachment 3015283


Not high in averageness, a few striking features and insane colouring (but not distracting like Drago or O'Pry) should make him uncanny.

His beauty is more subtle with emphasis on features being less sharp
; all of which is making him look more approachable and human.




Vasily Stepanov


View attachment 3015291

His features are not average, not even close. More robust than Mrazik but with a very favourable colouring. This works even though it is low averageness because he looks more approachable. The colouring makes him look divine/angelic.


Basically the difference between an alien who looks like a fallen angel (divine beauty) and an alien who looks like he is there to plot a world takeover (I wouldn't trust De Poot with anything:lul:) is colouring (and hunter eyes).






So in what category is Chico?

Lachowski is very high in averageness with his height and skull size being striking ; making him stand out like a giant in the best way possible. Keep in mind all of Chico's features are in the higher levels of average.

He is a weird and rare combination; which is why his appeal is so debated and polarizing.

View attachment 3015334

Also a proof that height is a striking feature on its own.
I met a chad few weeks ago who had extremely high averageness, no falios and no striking features facially, but he was 6 foot 4 on a good frame. This combination is more than enough for giga chad appeal.





Conclusion


In conclusion, the concept of averageness is crucial in facial aesthetics, as it reflects evolutionary preferences for average features over extreme ones.
Striking features can enhance attractiveness if balanced with high averageness. Examples like Paul Walker and Brad Pitt illustrate how a single striking feature combined with high averageness can be appealing.
Conversely, those with numerous striking features, like Hernan Drago, may appear unnatural or alien.

Ultimately, the ideal balance involves high averageness with one or two striking features, which can create a more universally appealing and relatable appearance.


Thanks GPT for writing the conclusion
Everyone knows averageness mogs just the sub5s on this forum don’t want to admit it. Its why people love Waisians and Mullatos. It’s also why whites with minor ethnic traits like lashes, lips, lower/medium bridges and good maxilla’s always mog.
 
Good post. Averageness is key and you know it if your reality isn't based on tiktok and tinder experiments alone.
 
Do mogger eyes + everything else above average (skin, height, physique etc) sound ideal?

In regards to high averageness theory
 
This is my 1000th post which is a big personal defeat for me :lul:


Got me thinking about the overall experience of being here and getting increasingly more obssessed with the BP mindset and viewpoint.

But instead of writing a thread about that (which I will one day for sure). I decided to pollute my mind a bit more with the blackpill. Some people misunderstand the topic of averageness so let me try to explain.



Averageness


The topic is averageness and why it is so important. Most experienced (and/or high IQ) users can agree that it is one of the most important aspects of facial aesthetics.

But what is it? It's just many average features.


"Possible evolutionary explanation for averageness is koinophilia, in which sexually-reproducing animals seek mates with primarily average features, because extreme and uncommon features are likely to indicate disadvantageous mutations."




Example of someone whose many features are above average (making him low in averageness) is Hernan Drago.

Even most users here can agree (and we are autistic as fuck, our subconcious is convoluted/polluted with the idea of attractivness; we can't be totally objective), Drago's face just doesn't click.
It isn't too appealing on first or a 100th look.


View attachment 3015151

Where is the averageness? He has top 1% eyes,nose, cheekbones, jaw, eyebrows and hair. Perfect facial thirds and fifths, perfect symmetry.

There is too much going on here for a human mind to comprehend, it just overall looks too unnatural because you never meet people who look like this.


Drago suffers from too many striking features aswell
.
His eyes are too distracting on their own (especially with his eyebrow and hair colour) - and they should be the striking feature. However he also has insane zygos, hollow cheeks, a perfect nose...
Making it too difficult to focus on one feature and making him look too unfamiliar, strange, dangerous (alien looking basically).


1 striking feature + high averageness is ideal



Look at this asymmetrical chad.

View attachment 3015186


Easily appeal mogs Drago. Walker has high averageness and 1 striking feature which are his light blue eyes (eye area being the striking feature is ideal).
Walker also has above average zygos but that's about it. Nothing really striking except for his eyes which take most of the attention away.
If you were to ask people/women about him, they would probably remember he had blue eyes and was handsome (Proving my theory basically).

View attachment 3015198

Walker from the profile view. Nothing really stands out in a black and white picture. Above average bone structure only because a regular human is recessed.

More examples of high averagness + light blue eyes being chad appeal

Chris Pine


View attachment 3015219

Zac Efron


View attachment 3015221


And almost every other actor who has light blue eyes + dark brows/hair combo:lul:



Another chad with a different striking feature is Brad Pitt.

What is the striking feature for Brad?










It's his insanely wide jaw.

View attachment 3015202


You tell me are there any other features that stand out? His eye area is above average but his eyes aren't big or light enough, nor are his eyebrows dense, dark or low set enough to give them contrast needed for his eye area to be a striking feature.


View attachment 3015205

Where is the forward growth (both mandible and maxilla are average)? Where are his zygos? Nothing special about his bone structure.

Brad is high in averageness which makes him relatable looking, with his striking feature being his jaw making him have that masculine rememberance about his appearance.


Another example is George Clooney.

View attachment 3015318

Clooney's jaw is very developed giving him a masculine look in motion. Clooney is also a good example of how high averageness mogs from the front (even without any striking features) where his jaw/chin isn't as visible.


View attachment 3015322

You can see his mandible better from this angle, and here it is - a striking feature.


Their collague Johnny Depp is a good example of hollow cheeks being a primary striking feature (jfl at copers hollow cheeks, are a huge halo).

View attachment 3015235


Depp has decent zygos and eye area + average everything else.

Notice how much worse he looks in different lightning here

View attachment 3015238

Huge appeal drop because his striking feature isn't visible here.



Striking feature is also a halo


Striking feature(s) is the first feature an average human will look at. When it's above average and it always is by default; it halos the rest of your face. People automatically (subconciously) assume other features are better than they are (people will always remember Paul Walker as handsome).



Low averageness almost always makes you look alien


Here are some examples of alien looking PSL gods that lack averageness and have too many striking features.


Elias De Poot

View attachment 3015249


Average? Almost nothing
Above average? Almost everything
Striking features? Eyes, zygos, hollow cheeks.

Certified alien.


Sean O'Pry


View attachment 3015275


Average? Forehead :lul::lul:
Above average? Everything else (most features are too rare here, as much as they are desirable, it's simply too much)
Striking features? Eyes, hollow cheeks, jaw, chin...


Certified alien.


I could go on with more models but there is no point.




Hunter eyes can be a falio


Notice how hunter eyes make O'Pry, De Poot and Drago look malicious.
This is exactly what pushes them over the edge into the uncanny valley in my opinion.

I think all 3 would be weird looking anyway but those hunter eyes just seal the deal.




Averageness without striking features still mogs



These faces are relatable, relaxing and look familiar. People who look like this socialize (and slay) easier. This is all a factor for who mogs.


Robert Downey Jr.

View attachment 3015311

Very high averageness with no striking features. Even some visible falios like nct but still looks good and has appeal. I would argue he mogs De Poot with how unpleasant De Poot is making me feel (looks evil fr:lul::lul:).





Angelic appeal mogs all


The real ideal is angelic appeal. Although this is very rare (and hard to define).


Michal Mrazik

View attachment 3015283


Not high in averageness, a few striking features and insane colouring (but not distracting like Drago or O'Pry) should make him uncanny.

His beauty is more subtle with emphasis on features being less sharp
; all of which is making him look more approachable and human.




Vasily Stepanov


View attachment 3015291

His features are not average, not even close. More robust than Mrazik but with a very favourable colouring. This works even though it is low averageness because he looks more approachable. The colouring makes him look divine/angelic.


Basically the difference between an alien who looks like a fallen angel (divine beauty) and an alien who looks like he is there to plot a world takeover (I wouldn't trust De Poot with anything:lul:) is colouring (and hunter eyes).






So in what category is Chico?

Lachowski is very high in averageness with his height and skull size being striking ; making him stand out like a giant in the best way possible. Keep in mind all of Chico's features are in the higher levels of average.

He is a weird and rare combination; which is why his appeal is so debated and polarizing.

View attachment 3015334

Also a proof that height is a striking feature on its own.
I met a chad few weeks ago who had extremely high averageness, no falios and no striking features facially, but he was 6 foot 4 on a good frame. This combination is more than enough for giga chad appeal.





Conclusion


In conclusion, the concept of averageness is crucial in facial aesthetics, as it reflects evolutionary preferences for average features over extreme ones.
Striking features can enhance attractiveness if balanced with high averageness. Examples like Paul Walker and Brad Pitt illustrate how a single striking feature combined with high averageness can be appealing.
Conversely, those with numerous striking features, like Hernan Drago, may appear unnatural or alien.

Ultimately, the ideal balance involves high averageness with one or two striking features, which can create a more universally appealing and relatable appearance.


Thanks GPT for writing the conclusion
Matt bomer is low in averageness and is still seen as highly attractive. A lot of your examples are only true because you showed celebs vs low status/ z list celebrity model PSL gods
 
Low IQ forum.

Averageness is relative to the human genetic blueprint which may or may not coincide with the current population. The modern population doesn't match since most people are recessed in some way.

Bro said Robert Ironman mogs De Poot and O'Pry😂
 
dnr alien look mogs
 
One thing I noticed is Spanish people are very high in averageness. Therefore they have much appeal.
Slavs are low in averageness. Therefore they are overrepresented in modelling.

This also explains why there is such an attraction between both sexed between those 2 regions.
 
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Bro said Robert Ironman mogs De Poot and O'Pry😂

I said probably mogs De Poot and I stand by that. De Poot looks extremely weird. Like someone you wouldn't want to be in company with. He has a low trust alien look, double falio.

Sean O'Pry looks great but still should look way better if his overall look level was a product of addition of all his facial features.


Where both lose appeal is the lack of averageness. Their genetic material is very rare and desirable, most of their features are top tier with no falios. This should indicate highest levels of SMV but it doesn't.

Robert is a manlet with no striking features. He is also a former drug addict who got a second chance at life because he looks high trust. He looks friendly and that's what got him far in life, basically being a sex symbol as a manlet at 50 years old.

Meanwhile De Poot is irrelavant, most people (and women) are scared to look at him twice and nobody knows or remembers him except this forum.

I made this thread easy to understand and you still don't get it. I can't help with that. I tried.
 
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I think I get what you're saying but using hernan drago was a bad example. Out of all the alien looking guys you chose the one with the most appeal.
 
High iq thread bhai
 
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Arguably One of the best threads here.
 
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High iq psl retards need to see this
 
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Matt bomer is low in averageness and is still seen as highly attractive. A lot of your examples are only true because you showed celebs vs low status/ z list celebrity model PSL gods
Cavill has more appeal than Bomer because Cavill has more averageness because his eye area is not as striking as Bomer's.
 


Sean mogs them all when he's not doing aspie stares.
 
Low iq. Op doesn’t see the difference between having average features and having features with high averageness. Chad with perfect ratios like chico look appealing cause of high averageness. While some normies can look uncanny. Do you really think that chico wouldn’t slay if he had smaller skull and average height? Your theory is shit.
 
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Just Be Average theory again :feelshah:
 

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