Balding is caused by DHT

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BALDING (ANDROGENETIC ALOPECIA) IS CAUSED BY DHT
the strongest evidence I can think of right now.. If it's not enough to convince someone of the causal role of androgens in baldness then that person is brain dead or willfully ignorant.

Common male pattern baldness is a highly heritable trait which requires the presence of androgens. The official name is androgenetic alopecia (AGA), which is a compound word for androgens+genetics and hair loss, meaning that both of these are required for it to occur. It refers to the specific type of hair loss in the horseshoe (Norwood) pattern that is caused by androgens, specifically DHT, and a genetic predisposition. The onset and severity of baldness can be predicted with high accuracy based on your genes.[16] These are the facts, it is so accepted in the medical community that these are the two causes of AGA that the very name of the disease is derived from them. Twin and genomic studies estimate the heritability of AGA to be around 80% for early and late-onset, with genetic influence of clear-cut vertex balding reaching as high as 89% and frontal recession reaching 96%, in young individuals[7][8]. In a study of 553 men, 92% of older men with baldness had a polymoprhism in the Stu1 restriction site of the androgen receptor, while only 76.6% of men without hair loss had this polymorphism, while 98% of men with premature baldness had it. There was only one balding young man out of 52 who did not have it.[17] He may have had other polymorphisms of the AR, and/or a lot of risk alleles in genes that are causal downstream of the AR. The significance of this finding has been confirmed several times. This is just one of many SNPs regulating the AR gene, yet it has a significant predictive effect on baldness, highlighting the importance of androgens in the etiology of AGA, and the requirement for a genetic predisposition.

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This shows the difference that just a single SNP on a single gene (AR) makes on the probability of going bald.[17] You are more than twice as likely to develop any balding or severe balding if you have the risk allele for this SNP. There are many other genes which interact with the AR and pathways regulated by androgens that have a significant effect. The combined effect of all of these genes makes baldness highly heritable. There is some environmental component, which has a minor effect on the severity or age of onset, but it would not be possible to induce common baldness in someone who is not genetically predisposed to it. Native American men without admixture, for example, do not go bald regardless of their lifestyle, nor do they have significant body hair[18].

Men with Klinefelter syndrome, i.e. born with an extra X chromosome causing androgen deficiency, do not go bald[22]. Men with androgen insensitivity syndrome, caused by a mutation in the AR gene making them insensitive to androgens, also do not go bald, with two exceptions of FPHL in the literature[21][23]. Pseudohermaphrodites who have a genetic mutation blocking the production of 5-alpha reductase type II are immune to baldness[19][20][32]. This is the enzyme that converts testosterone into the more potent metabolite dihydrotestosterone (DHT). It was the observation of no baldness in these pseudohermaphrodites which prompted the development of Propecia (finasteride) to treat baldness. The drug binds to and blocks the action of the enzyme 5ar-II, which is produced by the gene SRD5A2. Genetic studies have also identified this gene as causal in the development of AGA. When controlling for age, ethnicity, etc., men with variants of this gene that increase production of the enzyme have a significantly higher risk of going bald[9].

The effects of DHT on the hair follicle are mediated by binding to its receptors, the androgen receptor, this allows the androgen receptor to translocate into the nucleus of the cell where it can bind DNA and regulate gene transcription. The AR, the gene that produces the androgen receptor, shows an even stronger genetic association with baldness than SRD5A2. Polymorphisms of this gene show the strongest association with baldness of any gene. There is a disease called Kennedy disease, which is caused by extended CAG repeats in the AR gene. Repeats reduce the sensitivity of the AR gene to activation. Men with this disease are protected against baldness. The more repeats they have the less likely they are to go bald.[1][9]The application of androgens to hair follicles ex vivo retards their growth.[25][26][27] Even when hair follicle cells are removed and exposed to androgens in vitro it reduces their proliferation, the effect of which is reversed by coculture with an androgen receptor antagonist. Only dermal papilla cells from human and macaque hair follicles which are subject to AGA show reduced hair cell proliferation in response to androgens. It does not affect hair follicles on the back of the head.[10][24] Removing the AR or DHT prevents the gene transcription changes that take place in frontal hair follicles.[2] Treatment with androgens inhibits differentiation of hair follicle stem cells by inhibiting the Wnt pathway.[28]

Bald scalp has higher levels of DHT, AR and SRD5A2 than healthy scalp.[3][4][15] In all primates, men do not go bald before reaching sexual maturity. Macaques go bald within months of reaching puberty when androgens are produced. Their baldness represents a hypoplastic change in the type of hair follicle from terminal to vellus similar ,but in the opposite direction, to the hypoplastic change androgens cause in body hair after puberty. [6][29]. This is due to the known differential growth responses that androgens have on genetically identical hair follicles, which varies due to site-specific epigenetic programming.[30] Men who were castrated as juveniles do not go bald, but when injected with testosterone they do. Cessation of testosterone treatment in eunuchs, or castration of balding men, prevents further baldness, but does not reverse baldness[5]. Finasteride prevents baldness in monkeys.[14] Finasteride and dutasteride are highly selective drugs that inhibit only the enzyme responsible for producing DHT. Finasteride, which reduces scalp DHT by 64%[31], prevents baldness in 86% of men after a 10 year follow up[11], and 99% of Japanese men[12]. The more potent dutasteride halted baldness in 94% of men after 5 year follow up[12]. Genetic knockout of SRD5A2 or AR would prevent it in all men who don’t have a rare mutation in one of the genes downstream of the AR.

1 https://academic.oup.com/bjd/article-abstract/157/2/290/66408662 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01846-w3 https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/39/6/1012/26855274 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-48942-45 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/aja.10007103066 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-74612-3_187 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-74612-3_188 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16127116/9 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-01490-810 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8977424/11 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21910805/12 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38321615/13 https://www.oatext.com/Long-term-(1...3-Japanese-men-with-androgenetic-alopecia.php14 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1309834/15 https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/38/5/811/26854011 6 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4441445/17 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00439-006-0317-81 8 https://www.belgraviacentre.com/blog/native-americans-and-hair-loss19 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25321150/ 20 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.186.4170.121321 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430924/ 22 https://karger.com/sad/article/7/2/135/291539/Androgenetic-Alopecia-in-a-Patient-with 23 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8092978/24 https://www.spandidos-publications.com/10.3892/mmr.2015.3478?text=fulltext 25 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2078048/26https://www.eeose.com/UserFiles/Image/files/pdfler/caffeineno_b.pdf 27 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC698966028 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22283397/29 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7035577/ 30 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29046359/31https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X1552935732https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/4432067/ (bewerkt)

5-alpha reductase (5AR) inhibitors have barely or no side effects
5ar inhibitors have no side effects
I sended many good studies including meta analyses (The highest level of scientific proof) supporting this claim in this excellent thread

The FDA even did a investigation and found out that 5AR inhibitors have no sexual or depressive side effects

Don’t be scared of the DHT lovers in this forum and their pseudoscientific theories (which lack solid scientific evidence)
Their theories simply don’t happen in reality—it’s just yapping. They simply don’t happen.


WHAT DR NICKGA!! DHT IS NEEDED FOR BONEMASS AND AND..... (yapping)
It already got debunked in this thread (which they stole some of my arguments hehehehehehe) and this debate i had with a disgusting dht lover


NO NOOO NOOOOO BALDING IS CAUSED BY PROLACTIN AND UHH FAPPING!!
We males experience androgenetic alopecia
Balding in males is 99% caused by DHT, ANDROGENS
BALDING IS CAUSED BY HIGH LEVEL OF DHT IN THE SCALP COMBINED WITH HIGH LEVEL OF ANDROGEN RECEPTOR IN THE SCALP

the scalp tension bloodflow theory, the estrogen theory (low estrogen = balding) , the faping theoryy (......) and more
It’s all utter nonsense by the dht lovers
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THESE PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS , VERY VERY DUMB IN THE PICTURES, IMAGINES ABOVE
including @ConfusedBolivian and @Jonas2k7 who also blamed serum prolactin causing androgenetic alopecia??????

this picturess , imagines are 0.00001 of the Psuedoscience and stupidity in .org


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DHT IS NOT ANDROGENETIC
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GUYS KEEP THE DHT THREADS COMING AND GOING! NEVER STOP
 
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I will read later 😭
 
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Hair follicles are AR dense. Simply, if you believe hair is life, don’t risk dying and take a 5-AR inhibitor and nuke DHT. If you don’t then don’t take anything.
 
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"DHT does not play a significant role in the normal physiology of adults.
The most notable effects are prostate enlargement and male pattern hair loss as they age."
"This hormone finds its utility as an essential hormone in males until puberty, after which it is considered an etiology for certain diseases. "

DHT is rapidly metabolized 3-alpha-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase in muscle tissue:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/182...erone (DHT),,in the pathogenesis of hirsutism.

"SUMMARY: We reviewed study data for more than two million patients taking drugs called 5α-reductase inhibitors (5-ARIs),
which are widely prescribed for urinary problems caused by benign prostate enlargement and for male-pattern hair loss.
In a pooled analysis we found no evidence of an association between 5-ARI use and the risk of depression or suicide
Keywords: 5α-Reductase"

New research suggests that the medication finasteride, already used for male pattern baldness and enlarged prostate, may reduce cholesterol and cut heart disease risk.

http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/99/13/1025.long (n=17,313)
Overview of sexual side effects from the PCPT trial.
"The effect of finasteride on sexual functioning is minimal for most men"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10197842 (n=895) 5-year efficacy and safety study of finasteride.
"Finasteride was well tolerated, with no significant increase in the prevalence of sexual adverse events over time."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11763381 (n=472) Evaluation of sexual side effects in 1mg finasteride.
"The sexual and erectile function of subjects taking finasteride does not significantly differ from that of age-matched controls.
This is consistent with the experience of many dermatologists who do not see sexual or erectile dysfunction in patients taking Propecia."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12695131 (n=424) 2-year efficacy and safety of 1mg finasteride.
"Treatment with finasteride 1 mg was generally well tolerated."
 
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jfl'ed at this retarded no fap coper:lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul::lul:
 
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Hair follicles are AR dense. Simply, if you believe hair is life, don’t risk dying and take a 5-AR inhibitor and nuke DHT. If you don’t then don’t take anything.
and they are dht dense

the ar receptors will upregulate by the aging process that is driven 99% by genetics , dht and the 0.1 other things

SO THATS WHY TO BLOCK DHT, THE TRASH HORMONE
 
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BALDING (ANDROGENETIC ALOPECIA) IS CAUSED BY DHT
the strongest evidence I can think of right now.. If it's not enough to convince someone of the causal role of androgens in baldness then that person is brain dead or willfully ignorant.

Common male pattern baldness is a highly heritable trait which requires the presence of androgens. The official name is androgenetic alopecia (AGA), which is a compound word for androgens+genetics and hair loss, meaning that both of these are required for it to occur. It refers to the specific type of hair loss in the horseshoe (Norwood) pattern that is caused by androgens, specifically DHT, and a genetic predisposition. The onset and severity of baldness can be predicted with high accuracy based on your genes.[16] These are the facts, it is so accepted in the medical community that these are the two causes of AGA that the very name of the disease is derived from them. Twin and genomic studies estimate the heritability of AGA to be around 80% for early and late-onset, with genetic influence of clear-cut vertex balding reaching as high as 89% and frontal recession reaching 96%, in young individuals[7][8]. In a study of 553 men, 92% of older men with baldness had a polymoprhism in the Stu1 restriction site of the androgen receptor, while only 76.6% of men without hair loss had this polymorphism, while 98% of men with premature baldness had it. There was only one balding young man out of 52 who did not have it.[17] He may have had other polymorphisms of the AR, and/or a lot of risk alleles in genes that are causal downstream of the AR. The significance of this finding has been confirmed several times. This is just one of many SNPs regulating the AR gene, yet it has a significant predictive effect on baldness, highlighting the importance of androgens in the etiology of AGA, and the requirement for a genetic predisposition.

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This shows the difference that just a single SNP on a single gene (AR) makes on the probability of going bald.[17] You are more than twice as likely to develop any balding or severe balding if you have the risk allele for this SNP. There are many other genes which interact with the AR and pathways regulated by androgens that have a significant effect. The combined effect of all of these genes makes baldness highly heritable. There is some environmental component, which has a minor effect on the severity or age of onset, but it would not be possible to induce common baldness in someone who is not genetically predisposed to it. Native American men without admixture, for example, do not go bald regardless of their lifestyle, nor do they have significant body hair[18].

Men with Klinefelter syndrome, i.e. born with an extra X chromosome causing androgen deficiency, do not go bald[22]. Men with androgen insensitivity syndrome, caused by a mutation in the AR gene making them insensitive to androgens, also do not go bald, with two exceptions of FPHL in the literature[21][23]. Pseudohermaphrodites who have a genetic mutation blocking the production of 5-alpha reductase type II are immune to baldness[19][20][32]. This is the enzyme that converts testosterone into the more potent metabolite dihydrotestosterone (DHT). It was the observation of no baldness in these pseudohermaphrodites which prompted the development of Propecia (finasteride) to treat baldness. The drug binds to and blocks the action of the enzyme 5ar-II, which is produced by the gene SRD5A2. Genetic studies have also identified this gene as causal in the development of AGA. When controlling for age, ethnicity, etc., men with variants of this gene that increase production of the enzyme have a significantly higher risk of going bald[9]. (bewerkt)

The effects of DHT on the hair follicle are mediated by binding to its receptors, the androgen receptor, this allows the androgen receptor to translocate into the nucleus of the cell where it can bind DNA and regulate gene transcription. The AR, the gene that produces the androgen receptor, shows an even stronger genetic association with baldness than SRD5A2. Polymorphisms of this gene show the strongest association with baldness of any gene. There is a disease called Kennedy disease, which is caused by extended CAG repeats in the AR gene. Repeats reduce the sensitivity of the AR gene to activation. Men with this disease are protected against baldness. The more repeats they have the less likely they are to go bald.[1][9]The application of androgens to hair follicles ex vivo retards their growth.[25][26][27] Even when hair follicle cells are removed and exposed to androgens in vitro it reduces their proliferation, the effect of which is reversed by coculture with an androgen receptor antagonist. Only dermal papilla cells from human and macaque hair follicles which are subject to AGA show reduced hair cell proliferation in response to androgens. It does not affect hair follicles on the back of the head.[10][24] Removing the AR or DHT prevents the gene transcription changes that take place in frontal hair follicles.[2] Treatment with androgens inhibits differentiation of hair follicle stem cells by inhibiting the Wnt pathway.[28] (bewerkt)

Bald scalp has higher levels of DHT, AR and SRD5A2 than healthy scalp.[3][4][15] In all primates, men do not go bald before reaching sexual maturity. Macaques go bald within months of reaching puberty when androgens are produced. Their baldness represents a hypoplastic change in the type of hair follicle from terminal to vellus similar ,but in the opposite direction, to the hypoplastic change androgens cause in body hair after puberty. [6][29]. This is due to the known differential growth responses that androgens have on genetically identical hair follicles, which varies due to site-specific epigenetic programming.[30] Men who were castrated as juveniles do not go bald, but when injected with testosterone they do. Cessation of testosterone treatment in eunuchs, or castration of balding men, prevents further baldness, but does not reverse baldness[5]. Finasteride prevents baldness in monkeys.[14] Finasteride and dutasteride are highly selective drugs that inhibit only the enzyme responsible for producing DHT. Finasteride, which reduces scalp DHT by 64%[31], prevents baldness in 86% of men after a 10 year follow up[11], and 99% of Japanese men[12]. The more potent dutasteride halted baldness in 94% of men after 5 year follow up[12]. Genetic knockout of SRD5A2 or AR would prevent it in all men who don’t have a rare mutation in one of the genes downstream of the AR.

1 https://academic.oup.com/bjd/article-abstract/157/2/290/66408662 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01846-w3 https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/39/6/1012/26855274 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-48942-45 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/aja.10007103066 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-74612-3_187 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-74612-3_188 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16127116/9 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-01490-810 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8977424/11 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21910805/12 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38321615/13 https://www.oatext.com/Long-term-(1...3-Japanese-men-with-androgenetic-alopecia.php14 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1309834/15 https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/38/5/811/26854011 6 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4441445/17 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00439-006-0317-81 8 https://www.belgraviacentre.com/blog/native-americans-and-hair-loss19 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25321150/ 20 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.186.4170.121321 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430924/ 22 https://karger.com/sad/article/7/2/135/291539/Androgenetic-Alopecia-in-a-Patient-with 23 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8092978/24 https://www.spandidos-publications.com/10.3892/mmr.2015.3478?text=fulltext 25 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2078048/26https://www.eeose.com/UserFiles/Image/files/pdfler/caffeineno_b.pdf 27 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC698966028 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22283397/29 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7035577/ 30 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29046359/31https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X1552935732https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/4432067/ (bewerkt)

5-alpha reductase (5AR) inhibitors have barely or no side effects
5ar inhibitors have no side effects
I sended many good studies including meta analyses (The highest level of scientific proof) supporting this claim in this excellent thread

The FDA even did a investigation and found out that 5AR inhibitors have no sexual or depressive side effects

Don’t be scared of the DHT lovers in this forum and their pseudoscientific theories (which lack solid scientific evidence)
Their theories simply don’t happen in reality—it’s just yapping. They simply don’t happen.


WHAT DR NICKGA!! DHT IS NEEDED FOR BONEMASS AND AND..... (yapping)
It already got debunked in this thread (which they stole some of my arguments hehehehehehe) and this debate i had with a disgusting dht lover


NO NOOO NOOOOO BALDING IS CAUSED BY PROLACTING AND UHH FAPPING!!
We males experience androgenetic alopecia
Balding in males is 99% caused by DHT, ANDROGENS

BALDING IS CAUSED BY HIGH LEVEL OF DHT IN THE SCALP COMBINED WITH HIGH LEVEL OF ANDROGEN RECEPTOR IN THE SCALP
the scalp tension bloodflow theory, the estrogen theory (low estrogen = balding) , the faping theoryy (......)
It’s all utter nonsense by the dht lovers
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THESE PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS , VERY VERY DUMB IN THE PICTURES, IMAGINES ABOVE
including @ConfusedBolivian and @Jonas2k7 who also blamed serum prolactin causing androgenetic alopecia??????

this picturess , imagines are 0.00001 of the Psuedoscience and stupidity in .org


@piec @halloweed @Hexmask @DR. NICKGA
@piec @halloweed @Hexmask @DR. NICKGA
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i need to do smh
@Gengar @Clavicular can i later edit this thread with more things
 
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common sense, but the dht copers cant get it in their head
 
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Too many words but I'll read it later, seems high iq
 
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The simple fact that DHT rapes your hair follicles and wants to looksmin you to death should be enough to convince people that it's a trash hormone.
 
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Please saaar sleep good == no balding!!
Yayy!! We found the solution after 200+ of years of people trying to find the cure

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Good work guys , GG
 
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Please saaar sleep good == no balding!!
Yayy!! We found the solution after 200+ of years of people trying to find the cure

KPkcH9z.jpeg


Good work guys , GG
Ofcourse dont forget you micronutrients this combined with sleeping good will combat balding!! Finally yayyyy

@noodlelover Hey bud!! What did you say again? You said something about collagen suplements and OFCOURSE the redlight cap also beating the norwoord reaper !! So smart , never thought about that

Yayyy!!!!!
 
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Please saaar sleep good == no balding!!
Yayy!! We found the solution after 200+ of years of people trying to find the cure

KPkcH9z.jpeg


Good work guys , GG
Ofcourse dont forget you micronutrients this combined with sleeping good will combat balding!! Finally yayyyy

@noodlelover Hey bud!! What did you say again? You said something about collagen suplements and OFCOURSE the redlight cap also beating the norwoord reaper !! So smart , never thought about that

Yayyy!!!!!
This is sarcasm

High ifg-1 levels can even stimulate the 5ar enzyme + and the AR receptor in the scalp , making you more bald
 
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I gonna add a section debunking 5ar inhibitors fucking up with brain neurosteriods

(This is not even worth a discussion for many good reasons but i am still gonna do it)
 
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Sodomy and perversions made THE LORD angry. He shall take your hair indeed
 
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@appeal i forgat to tag you too brah
 
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Yeah and T has nothing to do with it
 
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BALDING (ANDROGENETIC ALOPECIA) IS CAUSED BY DHT
the strongest evidence I can think of right now.. If it's not enough to convince someone of the causal role of androgens in baldness then that person is brain dead or willfully ignorant.

Common male pattern baldness is a highly heritable trait which requires the presence of androgens. The official name is androgenetic alopecia (AGA), which is a compound word for androgens+genetics and hair loss, meaning that both of these are required for it to occur. It refers to the specific type of hair loss in the horseshoe (Norwood) pattern that is caused by androgens, specifically DHT, and a genetic predisposition. The onset and severity of baldness can be predicted with high accuracy based on your genes.[16] These are the facts, it is so accepted in the medical community that these are the two causes of AGA that the very name of the disease is derived from them. Twin and genomic studies estimate the heritability of AGA to be around 80% for early and late-onset, with genetic influence of clear-cut vertex balding reaching as high as 89% and frontal recession reaching 96%, in young individuals[7][8]. In a study of 553 men, 92% of older men with baldness had a polymoprhism in the Stu1 restriction site of the androgen receptor, while only 76.6% of men without hair loss had this polymorphism, while 98% of men with premature baldness had it. There was only one balding young man out of 52 who did not have it.[17] He may have had other polymorphisms of the AR, and/or a lot of risk alleles in genes that are causal downstream of the AR. The significance of this finding has been confirmed several times. This is just one of many SNPs regulating the AR gene, yet it has a significant predictive effect on baldness, highlighting the importance of androgens in the etiology of AGA, and the requirement for a genetic predisposition.

View attachment 3391498
This shows the difference that just a single SNP on a single gene (AR) makes on the probability of going bald.[17] You are more than twice as likely to develop any balding or severe balding if you have the risk allele for this SNP. There are many other genes which interact with the AR and pathways regulated by androgens that have a significant effect. The combined effect of all of these genes makes baldness highly heritable. There is some environmental component, which has a minor effect on the severity or age of onset, but it would not be possible to induce common baldness in someone who is not genetically predisposed to it. Native American men without admixture, for example, do not go bald regardless of their lifestyle, nor do they have significant body hair[18].

Men with Klinefelter syndrome, i.e. born with an extra X chromosome causing androgen deficiency, do not go bald[22]. Men with androgen insensitivity syndrome, caused by a mutation in the AR gene making them insensitive to androgens, also do not go bald, with two exceptions of FPHL in the literature[21][23]. Pseudohermaphrodites who have a genetic mutation blocking the production of 5-alpha reductase type II are immune to baldness[19][20][32]. This is the enzyme that converts testosterone into the more potent metabolite dihydrotestosterone (DHT). It was the observation of no baldness in these pseudohermaphrodites which prompted the development of Propecia (finasteride) to treat baldness. The drug binds to and blocks the action of the enzyme 5ar-II, which is produced by the gene SRD5A2. Genetic studies have also identified this gene as causal in the development of AGA. When controlling for age, ethnicity, etc., men with variants of this gene that increase production of the enzyme have a significantly higher risk of going bald[9].

The effects of DHT on the hair follicle are mediated by binding to its receptors, the androgen receptor, this allows the androgen receptor to translocate into the nucleus of the cell where it can bind DNA and regulate gene transcription. The AR, the gene that produces the androgen receptor, shows an even stronger genetic association with baldness than SRD5A2. Polymorphisms of this gene show the strongest association with baldness of any gene. There is a disease called Kennedy disease, which is caused by extended CAG repeats in the AR gene. Repeats reduce the sensitivity of the AR gene to activation. Men with this disease are protected against baldness. The more repeats they have the less likely they are to go bald.[1][9]The application of androgens to hair follicles ex vivo retards their growth.[25][26][27] Even when hair follicle cells are removed and exposed to androgens in vitro it reduces their proliferation, the effect of which is reversed by coculture with an androgen receptor antagonist. Only dermal papilla cells from human and macaque hair follicles which are subject to AGA show reduced hair cell proliferation in response to androgens. It does not affect hair follicles on the back of the head.[10][24] Removing the AR or DHT prevents the gene transcription changes that take place in frontal hair follicles.[2] Treatment with androgens inhibits differentiation of hair follicle stem cells by inhibiting the Wnt pathway.[28]

Bald scalp has higher levels of DHT, AR and SRD5A2 than healthy scalp.[3][4][15] In all primates, men do not go bald before reaching sexual maturity. Macaques go bald within months of reaching puberty when androgens are produced. Their baldness represents a hypoplastic change in the type of hair follicle from terminal to vellus similar ,but in the opposite direction, to the hypoplastic change androgens cause in body hair after puberty. [6][29]. This is due to the known differential growth responses that androgens have on genetically identical hair follicles, which varies due to site-specific epigenetic programming.[30] Men who were castrated as juveniles do not go bald, but when injected with testosterone they do. Cessation of testosterone treatment in eunuchs, or castration of balding men, prevents further baldness, but does not reverse baldness[5]. Finasteride prevents baldness in monkeys.[14] Finasteride and dutasteride are highly selective drugs that inhibit only the enzyme responsible for producing DHT. Finasteride, which reduces scalp DHT by 64%[31], prevents baldness in 86% of men after a 10 year follow up[11], and 99% of Japanese men[12]. The more potent dutasteride halted baldness in 94% of men after 5 year follow up[12]. Genetic knockout of SRD5A2 or AR would prevent it in all men who don’t have a rare mutation in one of the genes downstream of the AR.

1 https://academic.oup.com/bjd/article-abstract/157/2/290/66408662 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01846-w3 https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/39/6/1012/26855274 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-48942-45 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/aja.10007103066 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-74612-3_187 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-74612-3_188 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16127116/9 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-01490-810 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8977424/11 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21910805/12 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38321615/13 https://www.oatext.com/Long-term-(1...3-Japanese-men-with-androgenetic-alopecia.php14 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1309834/15 https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/38/5/811/26854011 6 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4441445/17 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00439-006-0317-81 8 https://www.belgraviacentre.com/blog/native-americans-and-hair-loss19 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25321150/ 20 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.186.4170.121321 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430924/ 22 https://karger.com/sad/article/7/2/135/291539/Androgenetic-Alopecia-in-a-Patient-with 23 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8092978/24 https://www.spandidos-publications.com/10.3892/mmr.2015.3478?text=fulltext 25 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2078048/26https://www.eeose.com/UserFiles/Image/files/pdfler/caffeineno_b.pdf 27 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC698966028 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22283397/29 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7035577/ 30 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29046359/31https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X1552935732https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/4432067/ (bewerkt)

5-alpha reductase (5AR) inhibitors have barely or no side effects
5ar inhibitors have no side effects
I sended many good studies including meta analyses (The highest level of scientific proof) supporting this claim in this excellent thread

The FDA even did a investigation and found out that 5AR inhibitors have no sexual or depressive side effects

Don’t be scared of the DHT lovers in this forum and their pseudoscientific theories (which lack solid scientific evidence)
Their theories simply don’t happen in reality—it’s just yapping. They simply don’t happen.


WHAT DR NICKGA!! DHT IS NEEDED FOR BONEMASS AND AND..... (yapping)
It already got debunked in this thread (which they stole some of my arguments hehehehehehe) and this debate i had with a disgusting dht lover


NO NOOO NOOOOO BALDING IS CAUSED BY PROLACTIN AND UHH FAPPING!!
We males experience androgenetic alopecia
Balding in males is 99% caused by DHT, ANDROGENS
BALDING IS CAUSED BY HIGH LEVEL OF DHT IN THE SCALP COMBINED WITH HIGH LEVEL OF ANDROGEN RECEPTOR IN THE SCALP

the scalp tension bloodflow theory, the estrogen theory (low estrogen = balding) , the faping theoryy (......) and more
It’s all utter nonsense by the dht lovers
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THESE PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS , VERY VERY DUMB IN THE PICTURES, IMAGINES ABOVE
including @ConfusedBolivian and @Jonas2k7 who also blamed serum prolactin causing androgenetic alopecia??????

this picturess , imagines are 0.00001 of the Psuedoscience and stupidity in .org


@piec @halloweed @Hexmask @DR. NICKGA
@piec @halloweed @Hexmask @DR. NICKGA
Ironic how you say that fapping doesn’t cause hairloss when it quite literally boosts dht post nut.

Higher concentrations of DHT are associated with increased ejaculatory behavior. Which means sex, gooning, any type of release will cause a boost in dht.

Ofc I agree with your post, as humans we have to have sex, just lower the amount of times you do it.
 
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Ironic how you say that fapping doesn’t cause hairloss when it quite literally boosts dht post nut.

Higher concentrations of DHT are associated with increased ejaculatory behavior. Which means sex, gooning, any type of release will cause a boost in dht.

Ofc I agree with your post, as humans we have to have sex, just lower the amount of times you do it.
Well even if fapping boost dht (idk probably not) , there are two things wrong

1. How long do it take before the levels return to normal? Like for example fapping boost prolactin too but after 2 minutes it will go back to normal baseline levels

2. Dht is a paracrine hormone, it will only act on the tissues where its produced lool
serum dht running in the blood has nothing to do with getting bald
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Dnr, but legit af thread

Btw this guy is a completely retarded and I automatically discard whatever bullshit cope he has to say
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How do you reduce dht without dut or fin
Without 5ar inhibitors you cannot reduce dht

Nature treatment products like saw palmeto will not work

Every thing from the nature has no "side effects" because they dont work
 
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Without 5ar inhibitors you cannot reduce dht

Nature treatment products like saw palmeto will not work

Every thing from the nature has no "side effects" because they dont work
So basically you have to thug it out if you dont want to take a pill
 
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How do you reduce dht without dut or fin
Just use fin or dut, or wait till your 18 (when your tanner 5) then use them.

lycopene reduces dht slightly iirc but not to any noticeable extent i imagine
 
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Just use fin or dut, or wait till your 18 (when your tanner 5) then use them.

lycopene reduces dht slightly iirc but not to any noticeable extent i imagine
Wouldnt that mess with my hormones? Especially libido.

Do you think the sides are worth the results
 
Wouldnt that mess with my hormones? Especially libido.

Do you think the sides are worth the results
ofc it will. the whole point of puberty max is altering your hormones to reach potential.
 
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Read every molecule.
 
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So basically you have to thug it out if you dont want to take a pill
Yes the balding process is gonna continue

Its not difficult to take a pil every day

If the price is the problem (what i understand) then this is the cheapest option

finasteride is pretty cheap (you need 1 mg finasteride, i saw on treated.com that 5 mg finasteride is 130 dollar with the count of 120.

Cut the 5 mg finasteride 5 times, and you will get one 1 mg finasteride

Ok so 120 * 5 is +360 (more then a year)
So finasteride more then a year is 130 dollar, thats cheap

Topical minoxidil.. idk the cheapest option
You can try to steal from walmart
 
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Posted 3 hours ago and it already got 10 reps

To the 20+ now
I want it to get to botb
 
Read every molecule, you already know the dht bootlickers are gonna find some new bullshit cope reason that dht doesnt cause balding
 
BALDING (ANDROGENETIC ALOPECIA) IS CAUSED BY DHT
the strongest evidence I can think of right now.. If it's not enough to convince someone of the causal role of androgens in baldness then that person is brain dead or willfully ignorant.

Common male pattern baldness is a highly heritable trait which requires the presence of androgens. The official name is androgenetic alopecia (AGA), which is a compound word for androgens+genetics and hair loss, meaning that both of these are required for it to occur. It refers to the specific type of hair loss in the horseshoe (Norwood) pattern that is caused by androgens, specifically DHT, and a genetic predisposition. The onset and severity of baldness can be predicted with high accuracy based on your genes.[16] These are the facts, it is so accepted in the medical community that these are the two causes of AGA that the very name of the disease is derived from them. Twin and genomic studies estimate the heritability of AGA to be around 80% for early and late-onset, with genetic influence of clear-cut vertex balding reaching as high as 89% and frontal recession reaching 96%, in young individuals[7][8]. In a study of 553 men, 92% of older men with baldness had a polymoprhism in the Stu1 restriction site of the androgen receptor, while only 76.6% of men without hair loss had this polymorphism, while 98% of men with premature baldness had it. There was only one balding young man out of 52 who did not have it.[17] He may have had other polymorphisms of the AR, and/or a lot of risk alleles in genes that are causal downstream of the AR. The significance of this finding has been confirmed several times. This is just one of many SNPs regulating the AR gene, yet it has a significant predictive effect on baldness, highlighting the importance of androgens in the etiology of AGA, and the requirement for a genetic predisposition.

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This shows the difference that just a single SNP on a single gene (AR) makes on the probability of going bald.[17] You are more than twice as likely to develop any balding or severe balding if you have the risk allele for this SNP. There are many other genes which interact with the AR and pathways regulated by androgens that have a significant effect. The combined effect of all of these genes makes baldness highly heritable. There is some environmental component, which has a minor effect on the severity or age of onset, but it would not be possible to induce common baldness in someone who is not genetically predisposed to it. Native American men without admixture, for example, do not go bald regardless of their lifestyle, nor do they have significant body hair[18].

Men with Klinefelter syndrome, i.e. born with an extra X chromosome causing androgen deficiency, do not go bald[22]. Men with androgen insensitivity syndrome, caused by a mutation in the AR gene making them insensitive to androgens, also do not go bald, with two exceptions of FPHL in the literature[21][23]. Pseudohermaphrodites who have a genetic mutation blocking the production of 5-alpha reductase type II are immune to baldness[19][20][32]. This is the enzyme that converts testosterone into the more potent metabolite dihydrotestosterone (DHT). It was the observation of no baldness in these pseudohermaphrodites which prompted the development of Propecia (finasteride) to treat baldness. The drug binds to and blocks the action of the enzyme 5ar-II, which is produced by the gene SRD5A2. Genetic studies have also identified this gene as causal in the development of AGA. When controlling for age, ethnicity, etc., men with variants of this gene that increase production of the enzyme have a significantly higher risk of going bald[9].

The effects of DHT on the hair follicle are mediated by binding to its receptors, the androgen receptor, this allows the androgen receptor to translocate into the nucleus of the cell where it can bind DNA and regulate gene transcription. The AR, the gene that produces the androgen receptor, shows an even stronger genetic association with baldness than SRD5A2. Polymorphisms of this gene show the strongest association with baldness of any gene. There is a disease called Kennedy disease, which is caused by extended CAG repeats in the AR gene. Repeats reduce the sensitivity of the AR gene to activation. Men with this disease are protected against baldness. The more repeats they have the less likely they are to go bald.[1][9]The application of androgens to hair follicles ex vivo retards their growth.[25][26][27] Even when hair follicle cells are removed and exposed to androgens in vitro it reduces their proliferation, the effect of which is reversed by coculture with an androgen receptor antagonist. Only dermal papilla cells from human and macaque hair follicles which are subject to AGA show reduced hair cell proliferation in response to androgens. It does not affect hair follicles on the back of the head.[10][24] Removing the AR or DHT prevents the gene transcription changes that take place in frontal hair follicles.[2] Treatment with androgens inhibits differentiation of hair follicle stem cells by inhibiting the Wnt pathway.[28]

Bald scalp has higher levels of DHT, AR and SRD5A2 than healthy scalp.[3][4][15] In all primates, men do not go bald before reaching sexual maturity. Macaques go bald within months of reaching puberty when androgens are produced. Their baldness represents a hypoplastic change in the type of hair follicle from terminal to vellus similar ,but in the opposite direction, to the hypoplastic change androgens cause in body hair after puberty. [6][29]. This is due to the known differential growth responses that androgens have on genetically identical hair follicles, which varies due to site-specific epigenetic programming.[30] Men who were castrated as juveniles do not go bald, but when injected with testosterone they do. Cessation of testosterone treatment in eunuchs, or castration of balding men, prevents further baldness, but does not reverse baldness[5]. Finasteride prevents baldness in monkeys.[14] Finasteride and dutasteride are highly selective drugs that inhibit only the enzyme responsible for producing DHT. Finasteride, which reduces scalp DHT by 64%[31], prevents baldness in 86% of men after a 10 year follow up[11], and 99% of Japanese men[12]. The more potent dutasteride halted baldness in 94% of men after 5 year follow up[12]. Genetic knockout of SRD5A2 or AR would prevent it in all men who don’t have a rare mutation in one of the genes downstream of the AR.

1 https://academic.oup.com/bjd/article-abstract/157/2/290/66408662 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-022-01846-w3 https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/39/6/1012/26855274 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-48942-45 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/aja.10007103066 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-74612-3_187 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-74612-3_188 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16127116/9 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-01490-810 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8977424/11 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21910805/12 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38321615/13 https://www.oatext.com/Long-term-(1...3-Japanese-men-with-androgenetic-alopecia.php14 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1309834/15 https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/38/5/811/26854011 6 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4441445/17 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00439-006-0317-81 8 https://www.belgraviacentre.com/blog/native-americans-and-hair-loss19 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25321150/ 20 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.186.4170.121321 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430924/ 22 https://karger.com/sad/article/7/2/135/291539/Androgenetic-Alopecia-in-a-Patient-with 23 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8092978/24 https://www.spandidos-publications.com/10.3892/mmr.2015.3478?text=fulltext 25 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2078048/26https://www.eeose.com/UserFiles/Image/files/pdfler/caffeineno_b.pdf 27 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC698966028 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22283397/29 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7035577/ 30 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29046359/31https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022202X1552935732https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/4432067/ (bewerkt)

5-alpha reductase (5AR) inhibitors have barely or no side effects
5ar inhibitors have no side effects
I sended many good studies including meta analyses (The highest level of scientific proof) supporting this claim in this excellent thread

The FDA even did a investigation and found out that 5AR inhibitors have no sexual or depressive side effects

Don’t be scared of the DHT lovers in this forum and their pseudoscientific theories (which lack solid scientific evidence)
Their theories simply don’t happen in reality—it’s just yapping. They simply don’t happen.


WHAT DR NICKGA!! DHT IS NEEDED FOR BONEMASS AND AND..... (yapping)
It already got debunked in this thread (which they stole some of my arguments hehehehehehe) and this debate i had with a disgusting dht lover


NO NOOO NOOOOO BALDING IS CAUSED BY PROLACTIN AND UHH FAPPING!!
We males experience androgenetic alopecia
Balding in males is 99% caused by DHT, ANDROGENS
BALDING IS CAUSED BY HIGH LEVEL OF DHT IN THE SCALP COMBINED WITH HIGH LEVEL OF ANDROGEN RECEPTOR IN THE SCALP

the scalp tension bloodflow theory, the estrogen theory (low estrogen = balding) , the faping theoryy (......) and more
It’s all utter nonsense by the dht lovers
View attachment 3391607
View attachment 3391610View attachment 3391614View attachment 3391620View attachment 3391622View attachment 3391608
THESE PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS , VERY VERY DUMB IN THE PICTURES, IMAGINES ABOVE
including @ConfusedBolivian and @Jonas2k7 who also blamed serum prolactin causing androgenetic alopecia??????

this picturess , imagines are 0.00001 of the Psuedoscience and stupidity in .org


@piec @halloweed @Hexmask @DR. NICKGA
@piec @halloweed @Hexmask @DR. NICKGA


I am crying tears of joy. I have finally found another individual who scientifically substantiates much needed truth. You have my love and respect 🙏
 
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