Balding is caused by low testosterone

[averagenormie]

Notice how every balding dude have high dht and low test? Even when they hop on meds they don't respond well to treatment or regrow hair back

High Test=high estrogen
Low test=low estrogen
Low estrogen=hair loss

I think supplementing estrogen would be a good solution rather than just injecting test since only small amount of test is going to convert to estradiol anyways unless the dose of test very high

 

[averagenormie]

Maybe topical estradiol would be better than taking a pill and fucking up hormones

 

[ropemax]

you'll never actually fix your balding if you stick to modern medicine way of looking at it. Unless you wanna nuke your hormonal system

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Inject testosterone to cure baldness theorem

 

[averagenormie]

you'll never actually fix your balding if you stick to modern medicine way of looking at it. Unless you wanna nuke your hormonal system

If you have facial hair just be ready to lose your scalp hair, its kind of a way for the body to compensate

 

[True truecel]

Just wait 5 years and get a hair transplant, the hair transplant industry will advance drastically and provide more efficient results with a shorter wait time.

 

[Pento]

Maybe topical estradiol would be better than taking a pill and fucking up hormones

Wouldn’t recommend taking that route as I assume your young and arent ready for the consequences. Only do it unless your ready

Also balding is caused by both test + dht. Estrogen is like a med kit on your hair follicles.

 

[laworg]

Notice how every balding dude have high dht and low test? Even when they hop on meds they don't respond well to treatment or regrow hair back

High Test=high estrogen
Low test=low estrogen
Low estrogen=hair loss

I think supplementing estrogen would be a good solution rather than just injecting test since only small amount of test is going to convert to estradiol anyways unless the dose of test very high

Studies?

 

[pfl]

 

[averagenormie]

Just wait 5 years and get a hair transplant, the hair transplant industry will advance drastically and provide more efficient results with a shorter wait time.

It's really bad to get a hairtransplant, the hair will never be thick as your pubertal hair unless very good surgeon and many grafts atleast 4k

 

[averagenormie]

Wouldn’t recommend taking that route as I assume your young and arent ready for the consequences. Only do it unless your ready

Also balding is caused by both test + dht. Estrogen is like a med kit on your hair follicles.

I already nuked around 80% of scalp dht using 2.5mg of dut daily, test isn't the problem, I'm just a very low estrogen

 

[averagenormie]

Studies?

"Aromatase is the key enzyme for the conversion of androgens into estrogens. Proinflammatory cytokines stimulate aromatase activity so that the inflammatory milieu can induce conversion of androgens to estrogens. Moreover, testosterone inhibits aromatase activity"

Aromatase and regulation of the estrogen-to-androgen ratio in synovial tissue inflammation: common pathway in both sexes - PubMed

Sex hormones play an active role in inflammatory responses, with androgens being anti-inflammatory, whereas estrogens have both pro- and anti-inflammatory effects. In rheumatoid arthritis (RA) patients, low levels of androgens and high levels of estrone are found in the synovial fluid. Aromatase...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"In the adult testis, estrogen is synthesized by Leydig cells and the germ cells, producing a relatively high concentration in rete testis fluid. Estrogen receptors are present in the testis, efferent ductules and epididymis of most species. However, estrogen receptor-α is reported absent in the testis of a few species, including man"

Estrogen in the adult male reproductive tract: A review - PMC

Testosterone and estrogen are no longer considered male only and female only hormones. Both hormones are important in both sexes. It was known as early as the 1930's that developmental exposure to a high dose of estrogen causes malformation of the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Androgen receptor content in female frontal hair follicles was approximately 40% lower than in male frontal hair follicle. Cytochrome P-450-aromatase content in women's frontal hair follicles was six times greater than in frontal hair follicles in men. Frontal hair follicles in women had 3 and 3.5 times less 5alpha-reductase type I and II"

Different levels of 5alpha-reductase type I and II, aromatase, and androgen receptor in hair follicles of women and men with androgenetic alopecia - PubMed

In this study, 12 women and 12 men, ages 18-33 y, with androgenetic alopecia were selected for biopsies from frontal and occipital scalp sites. The androgen receptor, type I and II 5alpha-reductase, cytochrome P-450-aromatase enzyme were measured and analyzed in hair follicles from these scalp...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[laworg]

"Aromatase is the key enzyme for the conversion of androgens into estrogens. Proinflammatory cytokines stimulate aromatase activity so that the inflammatory milieu can induce conversion of androgens to estrogens. Moreover, testosterone inhibits aromatase activity"

Aromatase and regulation of the estrogen-to-androgen ratio in synovial tissue inflammation: common pathway in both sexes - PubMed

Sex hormones play an active role in inflammatory responses, with androgens being anti-inflammatory, whereas estrogens have both pro- and anti-inflammatory effects. In rheumatoid arthritis (RA) patients, low levels of androgens and high levels of estrone are found in the synovial fluid. Aromatase...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"In the adult testis, estrogen is synthesized by Leydig cells and the germ cells, producing a relatively high concentration in rete testis fluid. Estrogen receptors are present in the testis, efferent ductules and epididymis of most species. However, estrogen receptor-α is reported absent in the testis of a few species, including man"

Estrogen in the adult male reproductive tract: A review - PMC

Testosterone and estrogen are no longer considered male only and female only hormones. Both hormones are important in both sexes. It was known as early as the 1930's that developmental exposure to a high dose of estrogen causes malformation of the ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Androgen receptor content in female frontal hair follicles was approximately 40% lower than in male frontal hair follicle. Cytochrome P-450-aromatase content in women's frontal hair follicles was six times greater than in frontal hair follicles in men. Frontal hair follicles in women had 3 and 3.5 times less 5alpha-reductase type I and II"

Different levels of 5alpha-reductase type I and II, aromatase, and androgen receptor in hair follicles of women and men with androgenetic alopecia - PubMed

In this study, 12 women and 12 men, ages 18-33 y, with androgenetic alopecia were selected for biopsies from frontal and occipital scalp sites. The androgen receptor, type I and II 5alpha-reductase, cytochrome P-450-aromatase enzyme were measured and analyzed in hair follicles from these scalp...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Dnr

 

[anthony111553]

Dnr

holy based

 

[copercel123]

Notice how every balding dude have high dht and low test? Even when they hop on meds they don't respond well to treatment or regrow hair back

High Test=high estrogen
Low test=low estrogen
Low estrogen=hair loss

I think supplementing estrogen would be a good solution rather than just injecting test since only small amount of test is going to convert to estradiol anyways unless the dose of test very high

DHT is fucking shit. @jeff1234 fuck DHT.

 

[averagenormie]

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High dht alpha male

 

[averagenormie]

DHT is fucking shit. @jeff1234 fuck DHT.

Dht is the main cause but low e2 also what determines if the hair grow back or not, being lower bf than 15% sucks for hair

 

[batman1997]

Cope

 

[chadbeingmade]

Most stupid shit I read all day
I feel like I'm saying this phrase a lot. Brutal forum IQ.

I think supplementing estrogen would be a good solution rather than just injecting test since only small amount of test is going to convert to estradiol anyways unless the dose of test very high

Fantastic idea.

@imontheloose @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀

 

[Michelangelo]

So isnt dut or fin the way to fix it?

 

[chadbeingmade]

So isnt dut or fin the way to fix it?

Any other "solution" other than Dut and 5ARi is pure copium.

 

[imontheloose]

Most stupid shit I read all day
I feel like I'm saying this phrase a lot. Brutal forum IQ.


Fantastic idea.

@imontheloose @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀

He’s right tbh.

Any other "solution" other than Dut and 5ARi is pure copium.

False. Finasteride is melting my bones as we speak.

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Notice how every balding dude have high dht and low test? Even when they hop on meds they don't respond well to treatment or regrow hair back

High Test=high estrogen
Low test=low estrogen
Low estrogen=hair loss

I think supplementing estrogen would be a good solution rather than just injecting test since only small amount of test is going to convert to estradiol anyways unless the dose of test very high

No, balding has to do with how your body is genetically wired to respond or not respond to the testosterone that you already have. Not to the levels of it.

 

[averagenormie]

No, balding has to do with how your body is genetically wired to respond or not respond to the testosterone that you already have. Not to the levels of it.

Except in androgen insensitivity syndrome almost every male is sensitive to testosterone and respond well to it

 

[Lefty Rankin]

Except in androgen insensitivity syndrome almost every male is sensitive to testosterone and respond well to it

That's only to do with their reproductive parts and functions. Each person's hair is genetically wired to respond to their testosterone differently.

 

[Snicket]

Most stupid shit I read all day
I feel like I'm saying this phrase a lot. Brutal forum IQ.


Fantastic idea.

@imontheloose @Jonasㅤㅤ⠀

Relentless idiocy.

 

[averagenormie]

So isnt dut or fin the way to fix it?

It will stop hair loss but it won't grow it back if there's low estrogen or none, they're not magic or some mystery pills, women produce almost non dht but have supraphisological levels of estradiol compared to men that's why they keep thier hair, thier skin also more collagenous and have better elastin

 

[averagenormie]

That's only to do with their reproductive parts and functions. Each person's hair is genetically wired to respond to their testosterone differently.

Ofc not denying that there's variations and genetic polymorphisms in the androgen and aromatase receptors of different races, Asians and native Americans have low 5ar activity in thier bodies compared to whites or blacks

 

[sigma boii]

Yeah its just deficiencies all around

 

[SoundnVision]

I already nuked around 80% of scalp dht using 2.5mg of dut daily, test isn't the problem, I'm just a very low estrogen

How did you feel on 2.5mg?
Must cost a fucking lot