Be the best ever looking or everyone is treated on personality alone?

[Troo_]

Like would you rather be like peak smv and like be tall asl and like 10/10 facially or rather people aren't superficial and making friends/romantic partners means you, as well as others, is treated solely on personality?

I feel like this goes deeper and reveals something about yourself. Not that there's necessarily a right or wrong answer, but like I feel that it can be argued that the former is at least slightly more selfish than the latter. Being treated on personality seems fairer and literally so many problems disappear because of that.

Then another question is:
How well would you be treated?

 

[caerulean]

the former

 

[OlympicSizzler]

Terrible all on personality alone, I have said some heinous things and done really stupid things.

 

[browncurrycel]

I just want to be Chad bro

Being "fair" and "right" can go to hell for all i care

 

[mohi_100]

Looks are also a part of what makes one a person. Love and admiration based on looks often persist far longer than when they are based on shared interests or behavior

 

[NoaA99]

Personality is just as deterministic if not more.

 

[NoaA99]

Looks are also a part of what makes one a person. Love and admiration based on looks often persist far longer than when they are based on shared interests or behavior

Your looks dwindle in no time.
They arguably matter most for only about 20-30 years

 

[mohi_100]

Your looks dwindle in no time.
They arguably matter most for only about 20-30 years

Youth indicators and most of misc features definitely descend, but things like eye area and general facial ratios don't change much

 

[Troo_]

ye not ridiculous to say

 

[tomahawk]

 

[Troo_]

Terrible all on personality alone, I have said some heinous things and done really stupid things.

right same. but people can also like maybe see you're putting in effort to change and like it's not entirely your fault because people may treat you a certain way then that affects you a lot but didn't feel like adding that to the scenario

 

[Troo_]

Looks are also a part of what makes one a person. Love and admiration based on looks often persist far longer than when they are based on shared interests or behavior

nah because only looks decline but personality is forever and in this scenario, nothing about face is considered only personality. being around someone for who they are because they make you laugh or are comforting is way more real and substantial that

"i luv him cuz he look gud"
but then you become a statistic with divorce rates nd shi but i digress.

 

[pheenon]

Personality is genetics too, everything is genetics even the ability to understand yourself and shortcomings and make said adjustments are dependent on brain chemistry, both are the same outcome and true winners won while they were still a jizzling in their papas hairy fatsack

 

[Troo_]

I just want to be Chad bro

Being "fair" and "right" can go to hell for all i care

i was thinking the same too when i thought of this couple months ago. but i always think deeply about stuff and i choose personality. Think about it. Other troocels, manlets, and whatnot all around the world are experiencing the same thing but if you and others had a good personality (also your gf/wife can be considered) you/everyone might as well be chad na meen? but again no right or wrong just my thinking

 

[mohi_100]

Respectfully, me and @ItsSoGymMaxx mog them all back to their childhood memories

 

[Troo_]

Personality is genetics too, everything is genetics even the ability to understand yourself and shortcomings and make said adjustments are dependent on brain chemistry, both are the same outcome and true winners won while they were still a jizzling in their papas hairy fatsack

i dont see your point. you can still change it and if you don't and become a bad person you'll be judged accordingly which is fair

 

[tomahawk]

@Cat. and @Gaygymmaxx mog hard

Respectfully, me and @ItsSoGymMaxx mog them all back to their childhood memories

 

[mohi_100]

nah because only looks decline but personality is forever and in this scenario, nothing about face is considered only personality. being around someone for who they are because they make you laugh or are comforting is way more real and substantial that

"i luv him cuz he look gud"
but then you become a statistic with divorce rates nd shi but i digress.

I somewhat agree but personality is not as permanent as it’s often claimed to be. Most divorces are also due to shifting personal and social environments

 

[pheenon]

i dont see your point. you can still change it and if you don't and become a bad person you'll be judged accordingly which is fair

Anyone can do anything but they don’t because their brain isn’t wired to do so, genetic predisposition exists

 

[dushmeryo]

Like would you rather be like peak smv and like be tall asl and like 10/10 facially or rather people aren't superficial and making friends/romantic partners means you, as well as others, is treated solely on personality?

I feel like this goes deeper and reveals something about yourself. Not that there's necessarily a right or wrong answer, but like I feel that it can be argued that the former is at least slightly more selfish than the latter. Being treated on personality seems fairer and literally so many problems disappear because of that.

Then another question is:
How well would you be treated?

i think i'd rather neither scenario

if you were the former you wouldnt get to live normally everyone would come up to you and you could never live a quiet life everyone is taking photos/videos of you sounds like hell

maybe i'd like to see how that feels like for one or two days, not forever



the latter sounds good on paper but its difficult to imagine how it would translate to reality, i think the current landscape is alright. the best thrive, that's fine.

 

[Troo_]

Anyone can do anything but they don’t because their brain isn’t wired to do so, genetic predisposition exists

i feel like those are outliers though like how many people you know have bipolar or are narcissistic or have down syndrome? Not that because it's so low it doesn't matter, but if we're being realistic it doesn't counter the original point much. Also you could think like this huge barrier people have such as bipolar or narcissism and down syndrome can still be recognized as trying to like at least be good. I'm saying like you can't say people are their condition and treat them as such especially in this example when it's personality alone not mental problems. Sure it can influence but they're still people and can, within reason, try to be good and stuff if that makes sense.

 

[pheenon]

It wasn’t a counter simply that they’re both equal in terms of “fairness” and I’m not mentioning outliers every thought coming into your head is genetic for someone to even think to change their personality is dependent on genetics at least to some degree

 

[Troo_]

i think i'd rather neither scenario

if you were the former you wouldnt get to live normally everyone would come up to you and you could never live a quiet life everyone is taking photos/videos of you sounds like hell

maybe i'd like to see how that feels like for one or two days, not forever



the latter sounds good on paper but its difficult to imagine how it would translate to reality, i think the current landscape is alright. the best thrive, that's fine.

well i mean the point is that it isn't reality there is no 10/10 and we as humans, as much as we try, cannot get rid of bias and looking through a superficial lens.

Unless I'm not understanding what you're trying to say

 

[Troo_]

It wasn’t a counter simply that they’re both equal in terms of “fairness” and I’m not mentioning outliers every thought coming into your head is genetic for someone to even think to change their personality is dependent on genetics at least to some degree

true but i feel it can get iffy with this because genes don't encode sentences, ideas, or beliefs compared to environment, learning, culture, etc but even then you still can have the choice to let such things define, for better or worse.

 

[pheenon]

Yeah but they define how someone will react to them, serial killers can only be made if the genetic code is already there for example

 

[Troo_]

I somewhat agree but personality is not as permanent as it’s often claimed to be. Most divorces are also due to shifting personal and social environments

but i feel like that's judging accordingly. Treat others how you want to be treated and like don't be the person that like you say you wanna spend your life with someone but you doin x, y, and z knowing that you shouldnt

 

[Troo_]

Yeah but they define how someone will react to them, serial killers can only be made if the genetic code is already there for example

again i don't really agree like I can agree maybe some things with genes but mainly environment and early childhood trauma or whatever can be like every reason a person could be a mass murderer but at the same time they don't have to do that, even if it may seem like it's justified.

And sure like maybe an objective lens added to the scenario is that maybe they can see why that mass murderer may be but if it's overwhelmed by the bad personality then outside treatment is justified

 

[Bryce]

Only a dislikable asshole with 0 social skills would choose the first option.

 

[Bryce]

serial killers can only be made if the genetic code is already there for example

Huh?

 

[pheenon]

Huh?

Serial killers are genetically predisposed otherwise all people who go thru such treatment would be serial killers, genetic layout determines everything the idea of free will is bs created by humans because it was necessary to build society upon, we have a will we just don’t control it or choose it we follow it.

 

[Bryce]

Serial killers are genetically predisposed otherwise all people who go thru such treatment would be serial killers, genetic layout determines everything the idea of free will is bs created by humans because it was necessary to build society upon, we have a will we just don’t control it or choose it we follow it.

That's not true at all. Nobody is born a serial killer, that doesn't even make sense. The chances of being born a psychopath is incredibly rare as is, trying to say someone could be born a serial killer is balderdash.

 

[pheenon]

Not my point lmao people are born with the predisposition to be a serial killer and some people truly are born that way, nothing can happen traumatic in their life and still become one we see this with school shooters

 

[Bryce]

Not my point lmao people are born with the predisposition to be a serial killer and some people truly are born that way, nothing can happen traumatic in their life and still become one we see this with school shooters

First of all, you have to click the "respond" button to notify me. Second of all, that's still not true. Your point is dogshit. 99% of school shooters are doped up on SSRI's which have devastating effects to decision making and impulse control to some individuals. Most serial killers have an awful upbringing as well. I can't think of a single serial killer who didn't experience an extremely traumatic situation growing up. Dig deep enough into any random serial killers past and there's always something.

 

[pheenon]

First of all, you have to click the "respond" button to notify me. Second of all, that's still not true. Your point is dogshit. 99% of school shooters are doped up on SSRI's which have devastating effects to decision making and impulse control to some individuals. Most serial killers have an awful upbringing as well. I can't think of a single serial killer who didn't experience an extremely traumatic situation growing up. Dig deep enough into any random serial killers past and there's always something.

Just fucking lol atp even psychologists agree they’re both made and born ur point is easily disproven by the fact the people can go through the same trauma and not end up the same, whys it so hard for people to accept your brain Is genetically determined the same way the rest of your fucking body is

 

[Bryce]

Just fucking lol atp even psychologists agree they’re both made and born ur point is easily disproven by the fact the people can go through the same trauma and not end up the same, whys it so hard for people to accept your brain Is genetically determined the same way the rest of your fucking body is

"Today’s most respected neuroscientists, psychologists, criminologists, and behavioural researchers largely agree: serial killers emerge from interactions, not absolutes." You have no idea what you're barking about retard. Some people can be born with deformed amygdala's or extended paralimbic systems which gear them towards sociopathic/psychopathic behavior, but it doesn't instantly wire them to become a serial killer.

 

[pheenon]

"Today’s most respected neuroscientists, psychologists, criminologists, and behavioural researchers largely agree: serial killers emerge from interactions, not absolutes." You have no idea what you're barking about retard. Some people can be born with deformed amygdala's or extended paralimbic systems which gear them towards sociopathic/psychopathic behavior, but it doesn't instantly wire them to become a serial killer.

Nigger u don’t even understand what u just said, and didn’t address my point if it was 100% environmental then EVERYONE WOULD REACT THE SAME it’s literally fucking agreeing with me that it’s both, not everyone’s brain is a fucking blank slate with equal reactions to things this is completely obvious to anyone, genetics lay the predisposition as proven by the fact not everyone goes through said trauma and turns out a serial killer

 

[coolman985]

 

[Bryce]

Nigger u don’t even understand what u just said, and didn’t address my point if it was 100% environmental then EVERYONE WOULD REACT THE SAME it’s literally fucking agreeing with me that it’s both,

Can't win with retarded niggers.

 

[browncurrycel]

i was thinking the same too when i thought of this couple months ago. but i always think deeply about stuff and i choose personality. Think about it. Other troocels, manlets, and whatnot all around the world are experiencing the same thing but if you had a good personality (also your gf/wife can be considered) you might as well be chad na meen? but again no right or wrong just my thinking

Thing is I had a good '"personality" back when i still used to speak with normal humans

I was giga NT, could speak to people with zero hesitation, knew how to maintain a good convo etc

But that never landed me anywhere. I was still bullied, made fun of by both men and women

That was when i realised that height, face are more important and rare than anything else

 

[ItsSoGymMaxx]

Respectfully, me and @ItsSoGymMaxx mog them all back to their childhood memories

yoooo chill nigga

 

[Troo_]

Thing is I had a good '"personality" back when i still used to speak with normal humans

I was giga NT, could speak to people with zero hesitation, knew how to maintain a good convo etc

But that never landed me anywhere. I was still bullied, made fun of by both men and women

That was when i realised that height, face are more important and rare than anything else

Ye but then like everyone is judged accordingly so even if your like hatred and such is “justified” because you were mistreated even when u treated everyone well it’s not exactly justified and you gotta almost rebuild yourself again