Be very careful with surgeons

[Saint Casanova]

These Masonic surgeons will destroy your life if you’re on their list. Sometimes they just do it for sick fun.

This is what happened to Frank

 

[Saint Casanova]

Same with dentists. They extract healthy teeth and destroy the face. I knew someone who had 6 extractions.

They are sick evil Masonics

 

[tansel]

frank is an idiot lol why would he even go for a 3 wall orbital decompresh if he doesn’t have graves disease, it wasn’t worth it.

 

[Harlem_Spartan]

Maybe he should have done some more research. Botch rate for orbital decompression is insanely high. He knew what he was getting himself into tbh

 

[tansel]

Maybe he should have done some more research. Botch rate for orbital decompression is insanely high. He knew what he was getting himself into tbh

i mean if ur doing one wall its not that bad, but going for 3 walls its insane. you would have to have ur eyes bulging out of ur sockets to do that shit. if frank got a one wall decompresh he would’ve been fine

 

[6foot3copecel]

Do the doctors genuinely care about the hippocratic oath?

 

[Saint Casanova]

frank is an idiot lol why would he even go for a 3 wall orbital decompresh if he doesn’t have graves disease, it wasn’t worth it.

Doctor shouldn’t have performed the surgery then. Are there no morals left in the USA.

If I want my mouth to be stitched on someone’s ass like the human centipede, would a US doctor allow that ?

 

[Saint Casanova]

Maybe he should have done some more research. Botch rate for orbital decompression is insanely high. He knew what he was getting himself into tbh

@CHRIST_764

Look at these Masonic bots. There’s plenty of them here too

 

[tansel]

Doctor shouldn’t have performed the surgery then. Are there no morals left in the USA.

If I want my mouth to be stitched on someone’s ass like the human centipede, would a US doctor allow that

yeah ur right, taban is also to blame as well, he’s a madman. who the fuck does a 3 wall decompression on someone without graves disease. taban ruined his life without a second thought.

 

[Harlem_Spartan]

@CHRIST_764

Look at these Masonic bots. There’s plenty of them here too

I'm on Taban's payroll tbh

 

[Saint Casanova]

yeah ur right, taban is also to blame as well, he’s a madman. who the fuck does a 3 wall decompression on someone without graves disease. taban ruined his life without a second thought.

Even when I went to the orthodontist, they wanted to extract my teeth. I said no, just put the aligners to make my teeth straight and that’s it. No means no.

After that my teeth are perfect and no harm was done to my facial profile. You need to do extreme amounts of research before consulting with these snakes

 

[Saint Casanova]

I'm on Taban's payroll tbh

Of course. You joined yesterday robot

 

[Mom]

These Masonic surgeons will destroy your life if you’re on their list. Sometimes they just do it for sick fun.

This is what happened to Frank

I'm masonic myself I'll be fine

 

[Harlem_Spartan]

Of course. You joined yesterday robot

There has been ongoing public commentary from Frank Tufano describing his surgical outcome as a “botch.”

We want to address this in a factual and responsible way.

First, these claims are allegations, not established findings. As it stands, this matter is part of an active legal dispute, and no court has determined malpractice or wrongdoing. Public statements do not equate to medical conclusions.

Second, the procedures performed were complex, multi-stage oculoplastic interventions, each with known risks that are clearly documented in medical literature. Outcomes in these cases are influenced by a wide range of variables, including individual anatomy, healing response, prior procedures, and postoperative decisions.

It is also important to recognize that Mr. Tufano has undergone numerous additional surgeries with other providers since the original procedure. This makes it difficult to attribute outcomes to a single event.

Much of the narrative circulating online is built on selective information, speculation, and commentary from individuals without access to medical records or surgical details. This creates a distorted picture that does not reflect the full clinical reality.

We remain confident that the care provided followed appropriate medical standards and was conducted with informed consent, professional diligence, and patient safety as the priority.

We will continue to respect the legal process and will not engage in public speculation. However, we strongly reject the characterization of this case as a “botch” based on incomplete and unverified information.

Medical outcomes deserve to be discussed with accuracy, not amplified through assumption.

 

[Saint Casanova]

I'm masonic myself I'll be fine

You are a cretin mate. Not any sort of Masonic for sure

 

[tansel]

Even when I went to the orthodontist, they wanted to extract my teeth. I said no, just put the aligners to make my teeth straight and that’s it. No means no.

After that my teeth are perfect and no harm was done to my facial profile. You need to do extreme amounts of research before consulting with these snakes

yeah man most def. i had my wisdom teeth taken out though cause it was extremely painful lmao

 

[Saint Casanova]

There has been ongoing public commentary from Frank Tufano describing his surgical outcome as a “botch.”

We want to address this in a factual and responsible way.

First, these claims are allegations, not established findings. As it stands, this matter is part of an active legal dispute, and no court has determined malpractice or wrongdoing. Public statements do not equate to medical conclusions.

Second, the procedures performed were complex, multi-stage oculoplastic interventions, each with known risks that are clearly documented in medical literature. Outcomes in these cases are influenced by a wide range of variables, including individual anatomy, healing response, prior procedures, and postoperative decisions.

It is also important to recognize that Mr. Tufano has undergone numerous additional surgeries with other providers since the original procedure. This makes it difficult to attribute outcomes to a single event.

Much of the narrative circulating online is built on selective information, speculation, and commentary from individuals without access to medical records or surgical details. This creates a distorted picture that does not reflect the full clinical reality.

We remain confident that the care provided followed appropriate medical standards and was conducted with informed consent, professional diligence, and patient safety as the priority.

We will continue to respect the legal process and will not engage in public speculation. However, we strongly reject the characterization of this case as a “botch” based on incomplete and unverified information.

Medical outcomes deserve to be discussed with accuracy, not amplified through assumption.

This gaslighting really rubs salt in the wounds for sure

 

[Saint Casanova]

yeah man most def. i had my wisdom teeth taken out though cause it was extremely painful lmao

Wisdom teeth is not so bad. Not ideal but it’s regular tooth extractions you have to worry about. Add elastics and extractions then it’s over

 

[agarthand1]

Wisdom teeth is not so bad. Not ideal but it’s regular tooth extractions you have to worry about. Add elastics and extractions then it’s over

Can't elastics help with proper band pattern?

 

[tansel]

Wisdom teeth is not so bad. Not ideal but it’s regular tooth extractions you have to worry about. Add elastics and extractions then it’s over

yeah man, i went to an ortho & he recommended elastics lmao, i already knew to say no. i’d rather go through the pain of jaw surgery than elastics

 

[Sujumh]

franks's life is actual hell

 

[tansel]

Can't elastics help with proper band pattern?

elastics camoflauge the bite, they don’t fix the skeletal malocclusion. if ur recommended elastics u most prob need jaw surgery

 

[Saint Casanova]

Can't elastics help with proper band pattern?

Depends on the type. I’m talking about extraction and elastic retraction

 

[Saint Casanova]

yeah man, i went to an ortho & he recommended elastics lmao, i already knew to say no. i’d rather go through the pain of jaw surgery than elastics

Only elastics you should get are intra tooth ones that just straighten gaps.

 

[ChadL1te]

Don’t get me started on orthos and dentists. All miserable con artists who deserve to be lose their fucking company

 

[Saint Casanova]

elastics camoflauge the bite, they don’t fix the skeletal malocclusion. if ur recommended elastics u most prob need jaw surgery

Sometimes they’ll reconstitute your bite with braces and then give you jaw surgery though,

 

[Saint Casanova]

Don’t get me started on orthos and dentists. All miserable con artists who deserve to be lose their fucking company

A lot of them aren’t miserable. They’re very happy making good money botching people

 

[tansel]

Sometimes they’ll reconstitute your bite with braces and then give you jaw surgery though,

yeah but most people arent getting jaw surgery lol

 

[Saint Casanova]

yeah but most people arent getting jaw surgery lol

Most people need it to have optimal lives sadly

 

[Harlem_Spartan]

yeah but most people arent getting jaw surgery lol

i had double jaw surgery tho

 

[tansel]

Most people need it to have optimal lives sadly

yeah dude literally me. my insurance denied jaw surgery 3 times & i have to go istanbul & pay out of pocket to do it.

 

[tansel]

i had double jaw surgery tho

 

[Harlem_Spartan]

I'm fr. had it last year, I get my braces out next month

 

[Harlem_Spartan]

yeah dude literally me. my insurance denied jaw surgery 3 times & i have to go istanbul & pay out of pocket to do it.

I won for being ugly then, cos the first ortho I saw recommended it to me

 

[agarthand1]

elastics camoflauge the bite, they don’t fix the skeletal malocclusion. if ur recommended elastics u most prob need jaw surgery

But couldn't elastics just be recommended for teeth maloclussion rather than skeletal?

 

[tansel]

I'm fr. had it last year, I get my braces out next month

nice man. did u get a genio as well or just double jaw

 

[Harlem_Spartan]

nice man. did u get a genio as well or just double jaw

yeah genio. overall 21mm advancement.

 

[tansel]

But couldn't elastics just be recommended for teeth maloclussion rather than skeletal?

depends on the person lmao. but i wouldnt do elastics

 

[stonecold trucel]

damn

 

[tansel]

yeah genio. overall 21mm advancement.

holyy, was it covered by insurance?

 

[Harlem_Spartan]

But couldn't elastics just be recommended for teeth maloclussion rather than skeletal?

I was wearing elastics after my jaw surgery to help close my bite

 

[agarthand1]

depends on the person lmao. but i wouldnt do elastics

elaborate on why not

 

[autistic_tendencies]

frank the most unluckiest man alive

 

[Harlem_Spartan]

holyy, was it covered by insurance?

Most of it yeah. I paid around 20k aud for braces and surgery which is around 13k usd

 

[ccwb]

Doctor shouldn’t have performed the surgery then. Are there no morals left in the USA.

If I want my mouth to be stitched on someone’s ass like the human centipede, would a US doctor allow that ?

Thankfully my ortho Lwk valid
Right she didn’t offer Marpe but offered braces without extraction and said elastics she would balance the Chin without retracting the upper teeth/lip much
She a W

 

[tansel]

elaborate on why not

because elastics are a camoflauge treatment at the end of the day, they hide the skeletal malocclusion instead of fixing it with jaw surgery. most class one skeletal patterns don’t need elastics. elastics after jaw surgery is a diff story obv.

 

[tansel]

Most of it yeah. I paid around 20k aud for braces and surgery which is around 13k usd

nice dude gonna be me in like 3 months lol

 

[HundredManSlayer]

this is why i think surgery can be bad for some individuals

 

[Harlem_Spartan]

nice dude gonna be me in like 3 months lol

have you done decomp?

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Same with dentists. They extract healthy teeth and destroy the face. I knew someone who had 6 extractions.

They are sick evil Masonics

Dentistry in America is evil business so invasive