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Please keep an open mind to what I have to say before judging, thank you.
Edit: I suppose I should have prefaced that this is purely coming from a psychological standpoint.
The issue here is that LTN's don't get to have hope, they get ignored and ridiculed from the very beginning which causes them to develop an identity around of being unwanted from a very early age. It's brutal yet less hurtful not having copes to fall back on. But as an average joe you're stuck in this zone I like to paint the image of "head just above the water" where you're not ugly, just never enough. And no, not the guys who grow into their looks, but the ones that remain average.
Never the one she would choose out of a room full of people, but not unfortunate enough to get the right to complain. You're stuck in a perpetual loop of finding things like a single glance, or a girl calling you cute once in an offhand manner as your "sign that things are changing". You're told to "work on yourself" and to "just go talk to her bro!", so you try the suggestions you hear from people above you in the social hierarchy, maybe even doing some softmaxxing and getting lean.
Yet the outcome barely changes if at all, so you plateau and realize everyone around you has only given you enough validation to keep trying, but never enough to escape the cycle of self doubt.
Reality begins to set in and it hurts more than anything before, you understand now that you were coping when you told yourself it was anything but your looks without realizing it, remembering that method you tried that was guaranteed to work if you ever approached the girl you wanted. This is where you finally give in and accept the thing that the average 3/10 male has since childhood, everything was in vain, because even the small wins were only borrowed bits of comfort that were never yours to begin with.
So you decide to ascend, you save up enough money at your wagie job and take that trip to turkey, you ascend, and recover. After a couple weeks to months of enjoying your new identity you begin to realize, the doubt remains and the hurt hasn't left yet. So you begin to resent the world around you, seeing the cruelty displayed to other men around you, the same ones who'd tell you to fuck off if you attempted to give them guidance so you rot from the inside. The hate doesn't really fade once you've reached this point, the only thing you can really do is pretend and blend in with everyone else now that you're not the outsider anymore or what's called "ascend and forget" which sounds good in theory but you don't really ever forget.
Seeing my own mother display hypergamy even as a married woman back then, just went to show how much worse my generation must be everywhere else. I finally understood that we as humans are nothing more than our biology. No you are not a metaphysical consciousness with freewill, you are the chemicals your brain releases which is dictating how you feel, act, and think in every scenario of your life. All these things are shaped by your previous and current development, the memories only play a bigger role in how your neurochemistry functions, your body always remember the trauma.
The way I learned to cope with it all as a somewhat below average male prior? Leaving behind the self importance, and accepting that fact. It's honestly been extremely freeing to attribute everything I see in life to laws of nature/biology, you see it everywhere once you leave behind the grandeur delusions that there is anything unconditional in this world, which is simply not how this reality functions. Some may call it brutal but nature doesn't care about your feelings. It just is what it is.
Edit: I suppose I should have prefaced that this is purely coming from a psychological standpoint.
The issue here is that LTN's don't get to have hope, they get ignored and ridiculed from the very beginning which causes them to develop an identity around of being unwanted from a very early age. It's brutal yet less hurtful not having copes to fall back on. But as an average joe you're stuck in this zone I like to paint the image of "head just above the water" where you're not ugly, just never enough. And no, not the guys who grow into their looks, but the ones that remain average.
Never the one she would choose out of a room full of people, but not unfortunate enough to get the right to complain. You're stuck in a perpetual loop of finding things like a single glance, or a girl calling you cute once in an offhand manner as your "sign that things are changing". You're told to "work on yourself" and to "just go talk to her bro!", so you try the suggestions you hear from people above you in the social hierarchy, maybe even doing some softmaxxing and getting lean.
Yet the outcome barely changes if at all, so you plateau and realize everyone around you has only given you enough validation to keep trying, but never enough to escape the cycle of self doubt.
Reality begins to set in and it hurts more than anything before, you understand now that you were coping when you told yourself it was anything but your looks without realizing it, remembering that method you tried that was guaranteed to work if you ever approached the girl you wanted. This is where you finally give in and accept the thing that the average 3/10 male has since childhood, everything was in vain, because even the small wins were only borrowed bits of comfort that were never yours to begin with.
So you decide to ascend, you save up enough money at your wagie job and take that trip to turkey, you ascend, and recover. After a couple weeks to months of enjoying your new identity you begin to realize, the doubt remains and the hurt hasn't left yet. So you begin to resent the world around you, seeing the cruelty displayed to other men around you, the same ones who'd tell you to fuck off if you attempted to give them guidance so you rot from the inside. The hate doesn't really fade once you've reached this point, the only thing you can really do is pretend and blend in with everyone else now that you're not the outsider anymore or what's called "ascend and forget" which sounds good in theory but you don't really ever forget.
Seeing my own mother display hypergamy even as a married woman back then, just went to show how much worse my generation must be everywhere else. I finally understood that we as humans are nothing more than our biology. No you are not a metaphysical consciousness with freewill, you are the chemicals your brain releases which is dictating how you feel, act, and think in every scenario of your life. All these things are shaped by your previous and current development, the memories only play a bigger role in how your neurochemistry functions, your body always remember the trauma.
The way I learned to cope with it all as a somewhat below average male prior? Leaving behind the self importance, and accepting that fact. It's honestly been extremely freeing to attribute everything I see in life to laws of nature/biology, you see it everywhere once you leave behind the grandeur delusions that there is anything unconditional in this world, which is simply not how this reality functions. Some may call it brutal but nature doesn't care about your feelings. It just is what it is.
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