Being ogre looking is better than being MTN

[Michelangelo]

When a man cannot make up for aesthetics it can still succeed into looking like a man and most women like it. Plus at least there is something notable about you in appearance which is better than being below average

 

[magnumd]

mtn’s have more appeal than ogres

 

[2414763h]

When a man cannot make up for aesthetics it can still succeed into looking like a man and most women like it. Plus at least there is something notable about you in appearance which is better than being below average

What is an Ogre again?
Is that like someone who looks like a man man?

 

[Michelangelo]

mtn’s have more appeal than ogres

Perhaps i would need to see more examples but i think my take is still valid anyway, lots of ugly but manly looking man are appreciated

 

[flippasav]

If you are under 30 and look ogre then you have let yourself go and you shouldn’t even think about self improving

 

[Michelangelo]

If you are under 30 and look ogre then you have let yourself go and you shouldn’t even think about self improving

I would just go to Dagestan for a couple of months atp

 

[magnumd]

Perhaps i would need to see more examples but i think my take is still valid anyway, lots of ugly but manly looking man are appreciated

the average ufc fighter or toby magiure

 

[2414763h]

If you are under 30 and look ogre then you have let yourself go and you shouldn’t even think about self improving

For me it is the only way

 

[Michelangelo]

What is an Ogre again?
Is that like someone who looks like a man man?

Basically i guess its a man with extremely manly traits that can result in aesthetically negative look but are still somewhat interesting

 

[Michelangelo]

the average ufc fighter or toby magiure

Looks ogre enough, i would imagine him being more popular with women than your average MTN honestly

 

[2414763h]

Basically i guess its a man with extremely manly traits that can result in aesthetically negative look but are still somewhat interesting

Ahh that makes sense I know some of those guys.
They’re usually businesses emigrants from my personal experience

 

[magnumd]

Looks ogre enough, i would imagine him being more popular with women than your average MTN honestly

are saying this from status or apperance

 

[Michelangelo]

are saying this from status or apperance

Both, lots of women prefer manly man and what comes from that like their behavior etc

 

[magnumd]

Both, lots of women prefer manly man and what comes from that like their behavior etc

weird because most girls ive been with like guys who look better rather than looking like an orge but im 16 so

 

[KT-34]

Depends, if you look ogre at a short height you're basically subhuman

 

[Michelangelo]

weird because most girls ive been with like guys who look better rather than looking like an orge but im 16 so

If we are talking about HTNs then i would say it makes sense but MTNs usually dont have any special or interesting facial features, thats why i think being ogre would be better at that point

 

[Michelangelo]

Depends, if you look ogre at a short height you're basically subhuman

Heightpill is always brutal

 

[magnumd]

If we are talking about HTNs then i would say it makes sense but MTNs usually dont have any special or interesting facial features, thats why i think being ogre would be better at that point

i would just say htn if you are tall like around 6’1 it would always mog short orge ltn or not

 

[KT-34]

Heightpill is always brutal

Heightpill isn't as brutal for pretty boys as it is for masculine dudes

When your face is masculine the rest of your body is expected to follow as well

 

[Duke Archer]

Tall ogre does better than tall mtn

But would lose to tall htn and above

 

[oganthropologist]

When a man cannot make up for aesthetics it can still succeed into looking like a man and most women like it. Plus at least there is something notable about you in appearance which is better than being below average

I’ve seen this play out well particularly amongst:
- older (>30) women
- lower income / resource constrained women

 

[GodDeityEyeBro]

Heightpill isn't as brutal for pretty boys as it is for masculine dudes

When your face is masculine the rest of your body is expected to follow as well

average prettyboy honestly lifemogs a masculine guy of same ranking. If your masculine guy and not some chad type of masculine, you are going to be expected to also have masculine interests and be sort of put into a masculine role (like no crying after something traumatic, etc. which obv isn't going to be too exaggerated but it's still there). Ofc, prettyboys do get underestimation by guys and maybe some guys get jealous but that is something that isn't as bad as having a social expectation to hold.

 

[KT-34]

average prettyboy honestly lifemogs a masculine guy of same ranking. If your masculine guy and not some chad type of masculine, you are going to be expected to also have masculine interests and be sort of put into a masculine role (like no crying after something traumatic, etc. which obv isn't going to be too exaggerated but it's still there). Ofc, prettyboys do get underestimation by guys and maybe some guys get jealous but that is something that isn't as bad as having a social expectation to hold.

Double edged sword

It's cliche but very feminine women are attracted to very masculine men, pretty boys are like a universal standard but some women prefer rugged manliness over soft and ethereal looks

 

[rxcky]

7/10 ragebait pretty decent, almost fell for it