Being ugly is not natural.

[reptiles]

Now dont get me wrong I'm.not saying most guys are gonna be chads all I'm saying is that if you have a recessed chin an recessed jaw a recessed cheek area this is not natural a diet of hard foods proper tounge poster below a certain age this allows your bones to grow properly


All this means is that basically chads are still chads so we get rid of this strawman however the median is not recessed if you look at an ancient skull there is 0 jaw recession dental issues or missing theeth if this was truly genetic as it is claimed why in the past did we have stronger more forward protrusive jaws

 

[chadisbeingmade]

People like to cope with "It's all genetic"

You're right.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

People like to cope with "It's all genetic"

You're right.

There is a decent amount of luck though, like if your parents breast fed you, how they fed you etc. They basically control a large part of your development to an extent.

 

[reptiles]

People like to cope with "It's all genetic"

You're right.

It's always the straw man especially with rehab room straw manning syringe into saying "eating raw meat makes you chad" no no it doesnt it makes your face healthy and allows your face to develop properly but it won't make you a chad

 

[mightbecooked123]

People like to cope with "It's all genetic"

You're right.

It’s not my parents have poor under eye support with bad fat pads and guess what? I have the same thing

 

[reptiles]

There is a decent amount of luck though, like if your parents breast fed you, how they fed you etc. They basically control a large part of your development to an extent.

Yeah that as well tbqh how your breast fed decides your tounge posture but I think you can change if your very young

 

[reptiles]

It’s not my parents have poor under eye support with bad fat pads and guess what? I have the same thing

What was your diet like and did you chew hard foods also if your ethnic than you will have hallow eyes regardless of diet for some reason ethnics have Hallower infra orbitald

 

[chadisbeingmade]

It's always the straw man especially with rehab room straw manning syringe into saying "eating raw meat makes you chad" no no it doesnt it makes your face healthy and allows your face to develop properly but it won't make you a chad

I personally don't believe too much the raw meat shit. Like yeah you lose less nutrients raw, but I think the amount of nutrients lost is very overblown to the point where it doesn't make a tangible difference. We have been cooking for millions of years. But ideal diet should be consisting of mainly meat, that's undisputed.

 

[superpsycho]

genetics set the potential; environment & habits make it happen

 

[mightbecooked123]

What was your diet like and did you chew hard foods also if your ethnic than you will have hallow eyes regardless of diet for some reason ethnics have Hallower infra orbitald

I had a very good diet chewing hard meats and shit with little goyslop. Yeah I’m not really ethnic but I’m med and I guess we tend to have curry eye areas sadly

 

[Orc]

most males of all animal species on the planet are supposed to die alone and without reproducing, that is how natural selection works.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Yeah that as well tbqh how your breast fed decides your tounge posture but I think you can change if your very young

I can't remember if I had optimal tongue posture, I was too young to consciously care obviously, I know I was breast fed though.

 

[reptiles]

genetics set the potential; environment & habits make it happen

I agree most guys will never be chad but if your jaws are recessed and things don't line that isn't nature that's the environment

 

[chadisbeingmade]

It’s not my parents have poor under eye support with bad fat pads and guess what? I have the same thing

Yes, your parents were fed suboptimally and had suboptimal habits, and they don't know any better so they passed on that nutritional knowledge they had and their habits to you.

 

[reptiles]

I personally don't believe too much the raw meat shit. Like yeah you lose less nutrients raw, but I think the amount of nutrients lost is very overblown to the point where it doesn't make a tangible difference. We have been cooking for millions of years. But ideal diet should be consisting of mainly meat, that's undisputed.

Yeah I agree but I do think black pillers straw men people who argue for the environment we don't say it will make you a chad it will just align your face to grow healithly

 

[suub2incel]

most males of all animal species on the planet are supposed to die alone and without reproducing, that is how natural selection works.

thats an interesting take

 

[ey88]

Yes it is

Even if everyone had natural diets there would still be better looking people, then the worse looking people, even if not as ugly as today’s standards, would be considered ugly

 

[160cmcurry]

if natural selection had worked out back then, it would have likely decreased the number of people with less desirable traits being born each day. unfortunately, over generations, women sometimes settle for relationships with men who may not be physically attractive but offer other resources, security, or stability. all of this goes against natural selection, and as a result, many future generations suffer from the consequences of natural selection not being in play

 

[reptiles]

most males of all animal species on the planet are supposed to die alone and without reproducing, that is how natural selection works.

Humans are unlike most animals; we are the only species that has undergone a phase transition in our evolutionary cycle.

Human intelligence is not simply an upgraded version of animal intelligence—it represents a qualitative difference. While all animals engage in problem-solving, human intelligence excels at thinking beyond mere trial and error. We have the unique ability to:

Think abstractly, imagining scenarios before they happen.

Reason recursively, drawing on multiple points of reference to form complex ideas.

Think multilin early, considering multiple perspectives and potential outcomes simultaneously.


Human intelligence is fundamentally different from animal cognition. What other species, aside from humans, is building rockets to the Moon? No offense, but suggesting otherwise seems almost like a joke.

 

[brownmutt42]

If you take a look at the animals living in the wild, they don’t have recession crowding etc. The only ones that do are domesticated ones like home cats, dogs etc. since they also eat modern food most of the time.

 

[reptiles]

Yes it is

Even if everyone had natural diets there would still be better looking people, then the worse looking people, even if not as ugly as today’s standards, would be considered ugly

Being ugly is not about population averages. By today's standards, ugliness is usually associated with a recessed jaw, chin, and maxilla. If everyone had a prominent jaw, chin, and maxilla, and some people had even more forward-grown features, it wouldn’t make them ugly—it would simply make them more attractive. Ugliness occurs when there is something abnormal about a face, not just because some faces are more developed than others.

In societies like this the base lines are higher hence it's a scaling of an already attractive base

 

[reptiles]

If you take a look at the animals living in the wild, they don’t have recession crowding etc. The only ones that do are domesticated ones like home cats, dogs etc. since they also eat modern food most of the time.

Correct your onto something

 

[Orc]

Humans are unlike most animals; we are the only species that has undergone a phase transition in our evolutionary cycle.

Human intelligence is not simply an upgraded version of animal intelligence—it represents a qualitative difference. While all animals engage in problem-solving, human intelligence excels at thinking beyond mere trial and error. We have the unique ability to:

Think abstractly, imagining scenarios before they happen.

Reason recursively, drawing on multiple points of reference to form complex ideas.

Think multilin early, considering multiple perspectives and potential outcomes simultaneously.


Human intelligence is fundamentally different from animal cognition. What other species, aside from humans, is building rockets to the Moon? No offense, but suggesting otherwise seems almost like a joke.

none of this is relevant, civilization didn't exist yet when all of our genetics were already established.

 

[reptiles]

none of this is relevant, civilization didn't exist yet when all of our genetics were already established.

Why do we commit to kids? Why are we perpetually horny? Why are we naturally bipedal? Why are we hardwired for monogamy?

Women have narrower hips because human babies have wider sagittal crests, meaning women must invest more in offspring. A polygamous person won’t give as much attention as a pair-bonded person; hence, the male has to stick around. We are hardwired for monogamy, but it’s not perfect and can vary. We are seasonally monogamous, yet we differ from 99.9999999% of species.

It’s a joke to compare us to other animals—what other species has the cognitive architecture to build a rocket?

 

[WELOVELOOKS]

Yes it is

Even if everyone had natural diets there would still be better looking people, then the worse looking people, even if not as ugly as today’s standards, would be considered ugly

nigga he basically said that in the post already

 

[Orc]

Why do we commit to kids? Why are we perpetually horny? Why are we naturally bipedal? Why are we hardwired for monogamy?

Women have narrower hips because human babies have wider sagittal crests, meaning women must invest more in offspring. A polygamous person won’t give as much attention as a pair-bonded person; hence, the male has to stick around. We are hardwired for monogamy, but it’s not perfect and can vary. We are seasonally monogamous, yet we differ from 99.9999999% of species.

It’s a joke to compare us to other animals—what other species has the cognitive architecture to build a rocket?

humans have 2-4 times as many female as male ancestors, if we're build for monogamy then we're very bad at it.

humans were not capable of much besides polishing rocks and throwing sticks then all of our genes were already the same as they are today.

 

[abracadabra]

People like to cope with "It's all genetic"

You're right.

10% genetic if ur talking about height aswell ill say 80% other than that the majority is enviromental factors eg. trauma when u were a kid, motivation, discipline all of these factors its all in ur head at the end of the day lil bro

 

[reptiles]

humans have 2-4 times as many female as male ancestors, if we're build for monogamy then we're very bad at it.

humans were not capable of much besides polishing rocks and throwing sticks then all of our genes were already the same as they are today.

Genes are the same but there was no established caiptailism humans with profit Incentives are built different.

But I agree we had 2 to 4 x as many females but that's not cause of 1 man 4 women consistently the ancient world back then war was a very realistic thing and men would go to war for women this process cause a lower male population.

That doesn't mean our natural biology isn't meant for monogamy literally males are hard wired to commit to females

 

[reptiles]

10% genetic if ur talking about height aswell ill say 80% other than that the majority is enviromental factors eg. trauma when u were a kid, motivation, discipline all of these factors its all in ur head at the end of the day lil bro

People just like to cope and use straw men

 

[abracadabra]

People just like to cope and use straw men

Lol they need to realize everything is in ur head bro, you can be poor and be a chad, rich and be ltn its hard maximazing ur mind you just have to go with it and hopefully all works out and you find your way, luckily i found out about looksmaxxing when i was like 11 im 17 now

 

[avverage]

People like to cope with "It's all genetic"

You're right.

maxilla is primarily not genetic, obviously places like eye area will be genetic and usually not fixable without surgery (same for ramus, gonions, etc) but recession is usually due to poor habits from birth to puberty, and many refuse to accept that their ugliness is due to their own faults.

 

[reptiles]

Lol they need to realize everything is in ur head bro, you can be poor and be a chad, rich and be ltn its hard maximazing ur mind you just have to go with it and hopefully all works out and you find your way, luckily i found out about looksmaxxing when i was like 11 im 17 now

You were so close bruv no it is all genetic but the extent of how those genes grow perfectly that's environment

 

[brownmutt42]

most males of all animal species on the planet are supposed to die alone and without reproducing, that is how natural selection works.

That’s why being a human male is worse than being a male of another species IMO. If you’re destined to inceldom, at least you don’t have the same consciousness and awareness of the situation. Whereas as a human you’re fully aware of it all.

 

[reptiles]

maxilla is primarily not genetic, obviously places like eye area will be genetic and usually not fixable without surgery (same for ramus, gonions, etc) but recession is usually due to poor habits from birth to puberty, and many refuse to accept that their ugliness is due to their own faults.

To an extent but the prominenfe of the maxilla I think varies by ethnicity Asians can have flat maxillas but not be recessed because there jaws and chin are forward grown and align with the jaw and chin

 

[avverage]

You were so close bruv no it is all genetic but the extent of how those genes grow perfectly that's environment

this is pretty much it. you need a good base, but also good habits and environment in order to actually look good. in some cases genetics will outweigh habits but those are only in fucking genetic MIRACLES

 

[reptiles]

That’s why being a human male is worse than being a male of another species IMO. If you’re destined to inceldom, at least you don’t have the same consciousness and awareness of the situation. Whereas as a human you’re fully aware of it all.

No it's way fucking worse for humans cage were the only mammals as far as I'm aware that is perpetually horny all year round every other animal has mating seasons and after the season ends the hornyness dies

 

[reptiles]

this is pretty much it. you need a good base, but also good habits and environment in order to actually look good. in some cases genetics will outweigh habits but those are only in fucking genetic MIRACLES

I wouldn't say you need a good base even with a dog shit base an forward grown face with no recession still mogs a person with a higher genetic ceiling who got recessed because they didn't have the proper habits

 

[brownmutt42]

No it's way fucking worse for humans cage were the only mammals as far as I'm aware that is perpetually horny all year round every other animal has mating seasons and after the season ends the hornyness dies

And how is being horny all the time good if you’re incel?

 

[shieldzz]

its mostly the fat which make people ugly

 

[averagenormie]

Now dont get me wrong I'm.not saying most guys are gonna be chads all I'm saying is that if you have a recessed chin an recessed jaw a recessed cheek area this is not natural a diet of hard foods proper tounge poster below a certain age this allows your bones to grow properly


All this means is that basically chads are still chads so we get rid of this strawman however the median is not recessed if you look at an ancient skull there is 0 jaw recession dental issues or missing theeth if this was truly genetic as it is claimed why in the past did we have stronger more forward protrusive jaws

cope even masaai tribes are recessed and ugly af who eat natural and live life the natural way and also 6'3 on average

 

[reptiles]

And how is being horny all the time good if you’re incel?

It's not what I'm saying is even if animals had consiousness how there brains are wired they would only think about Stacy once a month we think about it all the time imagine right your crush you dream about only happened once a month

 

[softman]

Now dont get me wrong I'm.not saying most guys are gonna be chads all I'm saying is that if you have a recessed chin an recessed jaw a recessed cheek area this is not natural a diet of hard foods proper tounge poster below a certain age this allows your bones to grow properly


All this means is that basically chads are still chads so we get rid of this strawman however the median is not recessed if you look at an ancient skull there is 0 jaw recession dental issues or missing theeth if this was truly genetic as it is claimed why in the past did we have stronger more forward protrusive jaws

Just because someone isn't recessed doesn't mean they're not ugly, you failed to take into account facial ratios, facial leanness and individual features.
Don't fixate on one thing and ignore everything else lol

 

[reptiles]

Just because someone isn't recessed doesn't mean they're not ugly, you failed to take into account facial ratios, facial leanness and individual features.
Don't fixate on one thing and ignore everything else lol

Actually it does uglyness is a deformity usually a retruded maxilla jaw or some part of the face a properly grown face has a prominent chin jaw and maxilla and hence aren't ugly they aren't chad though that is only possible on skulls with hyper advanced midfaces allowing for a super strong jaw structure

 

[ey88]

nigga he basically said that in the post already

Tbh I didn’t read any of it

 

[softman]

Actually it does uglyness is a deformity usually a retruded maxilla jaw or some part of the face a properly grown face has a prominent chin jaw and maxilla and hence aren't ugly they aren't chad though that is only possible on skulls with hyper advanced midfaces allowing for a super strong jaw structure

Ugliness can be a deformity or an unfavorable deviation from the average, i.e, an extremely narrow es ratio, sparse negatively tilted eyebrows, low mouth width to nose width and so on

 

[reptiles]

Ugliness can be a deformity or an unfavorable deviation from the average, i.e, an extremely narrow es ratio, sparse negatively tilted eyebrows and so on

Right and I'm arguing that wouldn't be possible of a face is properly developed atleast for the jaws maxilla and chin obviously there not gonna be chads but not being a chad doesn't mean your ugly this is a stupid a comparison if I play a game and I finish it 75 percent does that mean I completed none of the game ?

 

[softman]

Right and I'm arguing that wouldn't be possible of a face is properly developed atleast for the jaws maxilla and chin obviously there not gonna be chads but not being a chad doesn't mean your ugly this is a stupid a comparison if I play a game and I finish it 75 percent does that mean I completed none of the game ?

I never said if you're not chad, then you're ugly. If someone is a 2/10, but then you give him a reguar chin and an average maxilla, where it takes him to a 3/10, then he's still ugly, he might not be as ugly, but he's still ugly

 

[softman]

Right and I'm arguing that wouldn't be possible of a face is properly developed atleast for the jaws maxilla and chin obviously there not gonna be chads but not being a chad doesn't mean your ugly this is a stupid a comparison if I play a game and I finish it 75 percent does that mean I completed none of the game ?

What you're saying only applies to if someone is a 4/10, maybe then forward growth would make them look average(and that's not even guaranteed) but you fail to take into account the people who are even uglier than that

 

[reptiles]

I never said if you're not chad, then you're ugly. If someone is a 2/10, but then you give him a reguar chin and an average maxilla, where it takes him to a 3/10, then he's still ugly, he might not be as ugly, but he's still ugly

No cause attractiveness isn't scaled linearly trait by trait just fixing the jaw could raise him to a 4 that is without the chin and the maxilla your not getting it no land mark would be recessed under that metric so how would it be possible for them to below a 6 and I mean 6/10 not 6/8

 

[reptiles]

What you're saying only applies to if someone is a 4/10, maybe then forward growth would make them look average(and that's not even guaranteed) but you fail to take into account the people who are even uglier than that

It's not a maybe it's a guarantee that's how jaws develop we developed a sharper jaw to give us more torque when were biting into food