best age to take testosterone?

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man im so confused. is it ever worth taking? what age is it best to take at? some say its required to take during puberty because thats when most growth is happening, and some say you need to wait until after puberty or you will fuck your whole life up. which is it? both? neither?
 
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puberty like 14-16
 
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16-17
even better if you are going to the gym, but it should be common for that age
 
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puberty like 14-16
Doing it during puberty adds no benefit and amplifies the risk of stunted brain development from mismanaged control of estrogen
 
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you wont fuck up your life by taking test
 
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take it as young as possible bhai, pair with minimum 12 iu hgh :)
no need for blood tests, because test+hgh makes everybody beautiful! thats why the whole world takes it!
 
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Doing it during puberty adds no benefit and amplifies the risk of stunted brain development from mismanaged control of estrogen
it adds benefits, its a looksmax not looksmin. your brain development stunts if you crush estrogen too much, thats why you get blood work done and use low dose AI
 
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onset of puberty
 
it adds benefits,
such as....?

Can we stop the broscience 'muh bone growth' please? unless you roid before age 5 you will not experience real bone alterations from test jfl
 
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When you are done with puberty, and you are financially ready to take the measures needed in a stack.
 
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take it as young as possible bhai, pair with minimum 12 iu hgh :)
no need for blood tests, because test+hgh makes everybody beautiful! thats why the whole world takes it!
thats why kakyoin was in the hospital
p.s. he is still 177 cm :lul:

nvm he is 6 feet underground
 
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it adds benefits, its a looksmax not looksmin. your brain development stunts if you crush estrogen too much, thats why you get blood work done and use low dose AI
niggas think the only problem with test is E2
 
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such as....?

Can we stop the broscience 'muh bone growth' please? unless you roid before age 5 you will not experience real bone alterations from test jfl
its not gonna give you mads mikkelsen cheekbones or josh mc gregor jaw, i didnt say that. its gonna thicken your bones, but its obv still genetic. also people dont just take it for bones, its for fat distribution and tissue growth.
 
When you are ready to dial in your training and make the most of AAS, whatever age that is.
 
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fat distribution and tissue growth.
your point was specifically that taking it during puberty is beneficial. I am in fact familiar with the benefits of roiding bud
 
niggas think the only problem with test is E2
i didnt say e2 was the only problem, i just replied to him because he said it stunts from mismanaged estrogen control
 
your point was specifically that taking it during puberty is beneficial. I am in fact familiar with the benefits of roiding bud
it is beneficial
 
@Radio @User28823 @ybuyhgui @vision_n @aids
im 19.5, assuming a very good, safe cycle, with proper pct and whatnot, what would be the benefits of exogenous test?

the reasons im considering are (lmk whats real and whats cope):
-muscle ofc
-tiny amounts of facial bone growth (every mm counts no?)
-masculinization of face (the main thing i hope for)
-deeper voice
-better mood, confidence, drive

also how long would i have to take for to see real results?
 
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tiny amounts of facial bone growth (every mm counts no?)
-masculinization of face (the main thing i hope for)
both cope.

voice will barely change (likely just speed up puberty a bit)

muscle is not cope. The mood stuff people always say is significant, I personally haven’t experienced it and am on a gram rn
 
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@Radio @User28823 @ybuyhgui @vision_n @aids
im 19.5, assuming a very good, safe cycle, with proper pct and whatnot, what would be the benefits of exogenous test?

the reasons im considering are (lmk whats real and whats cope):
-muscle ofc
-tiny amounts of facial bone growth (every mm counts no?)
-masculinization of face (the main thing i hope for)
-deeper voice
-better mood, confidence, drive

also how long would i have to take for to see real results?
your mood will be worse after you come off for a while. its not permanent but youll feel dull for some time
idk if your bones in face will be affected since your almost 20
face will masculinize from soft tissue effects
 
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both cope.

voice will barely change (likely just speed up puberty a bit)

muscle is not cope. The mood stuff people always say is significant, I personally haven’t experienced it and am on a gram rn
how is facial masculinization cope? and how has your mood not changed
 
both cope.

voice will barely change (likely just speed up puberty a bit)

muscle is not cope. The mood stuff people always say is significant, I personally haven’t experienced it and am on a gram rn
your mood will be worse after you come off for a while. its not permanent but youll feel dull for some time
idk if your bones in face will be affected since your almost 20
face will masculinize from soft tissue effects


what are yalls thoughts on this guy
 
man im so confused. is it ever worth taking? what age is it best to take at? some say its required to take during puberty because thats when most growth is happening, and some say you need to wait until after puberty or you will fuck your whole life up. which is it? both? neither?
Take as young as u can
 
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Twelve
 
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how is facial masculinization cope?
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unless you consider massater growth to be 'masculinisation' how else would it make any change? We've already gathered that it won’t change your bones.
your mood will be worse after you come off for a while
just never come off.
and how has your mood not changed
likely because I do enanthate, but even on tren e the only 'mood changes' I've gotten are an increased libido. The effects of aas on mood are largely overrated unfortunately
 
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@Radio @User28823 @ybuyhgui @vision_n @aids
im 19.5, assuming a very good, safe cycle, with proper pct and whatnot, what would be the benefits of exogenous test?

the reasons im considering are (lmk whats real and whats cope):
-muscle ofc
-tiny amounts of facial bone growth (every mm counts no?)
-masculinization of face (the main thing i hope for)
-deeper voice
-better mood, confidence, drive

also how long would i have to take for to see real results?
could be 1 month, could be 3 months, could be 5

you just need to try it
 
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unless you consider massater growth to be 'masculinisation' how else would it make any change? We've already gathered that it won’t change your bones.
soft tissue effects idiot.
 
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soft tissue effects idiot.
what exactly do you mean by soft tissues, because this sounds like high iq and possibly true but can you elaborate a bit more specifically like which tissues exactly
 
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soft tissue effects idiot.
12 year old legitimate retard who thinks test at age 20 can grow bones and has never even roided calls me an 'idiot'
 
12 year old legitimate retard who thinks test at age 20 can grow bones and has never even roided calls me an 'idiot'
im 14 i didnt say test will grow bones at 20 and im gonna roid soon
 
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what exactly do you mean by soft tissues, because this sounds like high iq and possibly true but can you elaborate a bit more specifically like which tissues exactly
thickening of skin, fat distribution and fat loss, and muscles like masseter temporalis neck mucles will look better. ofc its not gonna be as good as puberty
 
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what are yalls thoughts on this guy
@Radio what do you think of this? real? cope? lie? exaggeration? worth it?


chatgpt summary of first like 5-6min (where he talks about exo hormones for 18+):
Summary (part 1 of the “3-year ascension plan”):
  • Proposes 2.5 years on anabolic hormones: primarily testosterone plus GH or MK-677 to target both androgen and GH/IGF-1 pathways for physique/face changes (claims bigger effects <25 yrs).
  • Says to avoid 5-alpha-reductase inhibitors (finasteride/dutasteride) while on cycle to keep DHT, which he believes aids masculinization (voice, facial hair, “structure”).
  • Expects downsides during cycles: bloat, reduced collagen, acne, and accelerated hair loss.
  • Advises staying at maintenance/surplus (bulking) during the 2.5 years to maximize “structural” changes rather than cutting.
  • After ~2.5 years: stop gear, then begin hair-loss protocol (finasteride or dutasteride, minoxidil, dermarolling), reduce androgens to natural/TRT levels (he cites ~70 mg/week for himself), and focus on skin care/collagen recovery.
  • Final 6 months = “soft-maxing”: cut to get lean, improve skin/hair, and generally polish appearance.
 
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