Best STEMM Degrees?

[PubertyMaxxer]

For subhuman inels and aspiring entrepreneurs:


Physics - Great inkwell Major, little female or human interaction, PhD needed

Chemistry - Bad Major because female-dominated, less pay & entrepreneurship opportunities, PhD needed

Biology - Worst Major, 80% Foids, no future & opportunity


CS/Software - Great Inkwell Degree, best out of everything probably, biggest companies are american brands, home office

CE/Hardware - Decent but mainly the factories are in Asia, good inkwell major because Automation is the foundation of Entrepreneurship opposed to being self-employed


Mechanical Engineering - Instead Mechanics Trade is better probably, pretty outdated degree

Electrical Engineering - go for Hardware instead

Civil Engineering - Worst Major ever, you work for a government or an old big company, no entrepreneurship opportunities, become a carpenter or welder or hvac instead

Petroleum or Chemical Engineering -
You will work on a large plant or rig, good inkwell job but too many Foids nowadays and little entrepreneurial opportunities

Maths - if applied maths then good, work at insurance or banks or hedgefunds, good inel and entrepreneurship major

Medicine - Female Dominated Major however some specialties allow to open a practice and be your own boss while earning a lot like dentists or plastic surgery


To round this off the pay depends on these factors:


- How Big The Problem Is You Solve

- How Big the Market and Wealthy the potential Customers are


Automated Sales and Automated Production of Goods or Services is what differentiates Self-Employed specialists who sell a Service From Entrepreneurs who sell either physical or digital Products

Therefore CS or CE is by far the best entrepreneurial degree

 

[Deleted member 7753]

Cs is good rn but I'm quite sure within the next few years the entire field will go through a tough period. The market is extremely saturated, finding a job is already difficult enough as is, even though there's massive demand.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

i would imagine comp science or engineering but im too dumb for any of that.

 

[Mouthbreath]

Very accurate descriptions imo

 

[sytyl]

The market is extremely saturated,

it's only saturated at the jr level, and it's not hard to put yourself ahead of the competition (just do some internships in between summers of each year etc.), once you get a job and get 4-5 years of experience your life is set imo

legit I had interviewed some students a few months ago and nibbas couldn't do fizzbuzz, that's your competition most of the time, and another guy (with a good gpa too) couldn't tell me the difference between an abstract class and an interface and why I'd wanna use one over the other

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Very accurate descriptions imo

Updated

 

[Copeful]

it's only saturated at the jr level, and it's not hard to put yourself ahead of the competition (just do some internships in between summers of each year etc.), once you get a job and get 4-5 years of experience your life is set imo

legit I had interviewed some students a few months ago and nibbas couldn't do fizzbuzz, that's your competition most of the time, and another guy (with a good gpa too) couldn't tell me the difference between an abstract class and an interface and why I'd wanna use one over the other

Whats fizzbuzz

 

[sytyl]

Whats fizzbuzz

The trend for interviews (at least for students) is to just pick an easy-medium rank question from leetcode and give it to them and tell them to solve it in front of you (whiteboarding, to see their thought process/if they are not retarded). Fizzbuzz is an easy question. I just gave an example of an easy question (I didn't actually ask them to do fizzbuzz).

 

[Deleted member 2587]

The trend for interviews (at least for students) is to just pick an easy-medium rank question from leetcode and give it to them and tell them to solve it in front of you (whiteboarding, to see their thought process/if they are not retarded). Fizzbuzz is an easy question. I just gave an example of an easy question (I didn't actually ask them to do fizzbuzz).

How much u make a year

 

[sytyl]

How much u make a year

pointless to say, average for my city is 70-120k CAD for someone entering the field with a little bit of experience

 

[Deleted member 2587]

pointless to say, average for my city is 70-120k CAD for someone entering the field with a little bit of experience

If I major in comp si would you give me job interview jfl

 

[freeone12]

Learn phyton

Learn algorithms theory

Make some projects on your own

Post them on your github

Practice algorithms @ leetcode for 6 months 3hours a day

Spam on linkedin google microsoft netflix facebook amazon recruiters

Get an interview

Do well

Get job

 

[Deleted member 6273]

Obviously medicine lol. Highest average income, most stable career, highest status career, doesn't require natural talent to excel in and so much more. Only problem is that it takes a lot longer than the rest to complete

The rest require a level of natural talent, interest and intelligence to excel in especially Physics and maths.

 

[Deleted member 7823]

Cope
I'm doing Art history with minor in gender studies and I have become an ally to feminist staceys in order to get laid. In the future i will gold-dig.

 

[Deleted member 6191]

For subhuman inels and aspiring entrepreneurs:


Physics - Great inkwell Major, little female or human interaction, PhD needed

Chemistry - Bad Major because female-dominated, less pay & entrepreneurship opportunities, PhD needed

Biology - Worst Major, 80% Foids, no future & opportunity


CS/Software - Great Inkwell Degree, best out of everything probably, biggest companies are american brands, home office

CE/Hardware - Decent but mainly the factories are in Asia, good inkwell major because Automation is the foundation of Entrepreneurship opposed to being self-employed


Mechanical Engineering - Instead Mechanics Trade is better probably, pretty outdated degree

Electrical Engineering - go for Hardware instead

Civil Engineering - Worst Major ever, you work for a government or an old big company, no entrepreneurship opportunities, become a carpenter or welder or hvac instead

Petroleum or Chemical Engineering -
You will work on a large plant or rig, good inkwell job but too many Foids nowadays and little entrepreneurial opportunities

Maths - if applied maths then good, work at insurance or banks or hedgefunds, good inel and entrepreneurship major

Medicine - Female Dominated Major however some specialties allow to open a practice and be your own boss while earning a lot like dentists or plastic surgery


To round this off the pay depends on these factors:


- How Big The Problem Is You Solve

- How Big the Market and Wealthy the potential Customers are


Automated Sales and Automated Production of Goods or Services is what differentiates Self-Employed specialists who sell a Service From Entrepreneurs who sell either physical or digital Products

Therefore CS or CE is by far the best entrepreneurial degree

How is mech eng outdated lol? you want to go be with the oversaturated "software engineers" , which a lot of EEs and CS degrees end up being, mech eng can never die out. It overlaps into other markets.
From a search online:

1. Basic Physical science (Physics & Chemistry)
2. Engineering Mathematics
3. Thermal Engineering.
4. Hydraulics
5. Pneumatics.
6. Structural analysis.
7. Engineering Design.
8. Product Design.
9. Mechatronics.
10. Material science
11. Metallurgy.
12. Quality assurance
13. Reliability engineering
14. Operations research
15. Operations management
16. Supply chain management
17. CAD/CAM,
18. Automation.
19. Control engineering.
20. Robotics.
21. Automobile Engineering.
22. Production / Manufacturing engineering.
23. Industrial engineering.
24. Nano technology
25. Aerospace science
26. Chemical engineering
27. Civil engineering
28. Electrical engineering
29. Biomedical engineering.
30. Biotechnology.
31. Petroleum engineering.
32. Acoustical Engineering.
33. Agricultural Engineering

 

[Deleted member 6191]

Obviously medicine lol. Highest average income, most stable career, highest status career, doesn't require natural talent to excel in and so much more. Only problem is that it takes a lot longer than the rest to complete

The rest require a level of natural talent, interest and intelligence to excel in especially Physics and maths.

Just spend 11 years in school thjeory

 

[Deleted member 6273]

Just spend 11 years in school thjeory

Around 8 years (4 years undergrad, 4 years med school) in the US. 5-6 years in Europe lol. Plus you make double what engineers make while exerting quarter of the mental effort. I'm Primarily talking about being a physician (G.P) not a neurosurgeon.

 

[Deleted member 6191]

Around 8 years (4 years undergrad, 4 years med school) in the US. 5-6 years in Europe lol. Plus you make double what engineers make while exerting quarter of the mental effort. I'm Primarily talking about being a physician (G.P) not a neurosurgeon.

Yes no doubt you'll make more money, but after all that stress and contemplation throughout the years, not worth it for me imo

 

[Mouthbreath]

How is mech eng outdated lol? you want to go be with the oversaturated "software engineers" , which a lot of EEs and CS degrees end up being, mech eng can never die out. It overlaps into other markets.
From a search online:

1. Basic Physical science (Physics & Chemistry)
2. Engineering Mathematics
3. Thermal Engineering.
4. Hydraulics
5. Pneumatics.
6. Structural analysis.
7. Engineering Design.
8. Product Design.
9. Mechatronics.
10. Material science
11. Metallurgy.
12. Quality assurance
13. Reliability engineering
14. Operations research
15. Operations management
16. Supply chain management
17. CAD/CAM,
18. Automation.
19. Control engineering.
20. Robotics.
21. Automobile Engineering.
22. Production / Manufacturing engineering.
23. Industrial engineering.
24. Nano technology
25. Aerospace science
26. Chemical engineering
27. Civil engineering
28. Electrical engineering
29. Biomedical engineering.
30. Biotechnology.
31. Petroleum engineering.
32. Acoustical Engineering.
33. Agricultural Engineering

in germany it is pretty oversaturated from what I heard. Also you don't make a lot of money usually. The thing with mech eng is that you only really are an expert at the mechanical stuff (and that field is indeed relatively old). In all other fields that you briefly touch in your studies, there will be others that know more than you. Example: You will learn about material engineering, but a physicst or a material engineer will always perform the interesting work later as they have a more specific educaion in that topic. You're kind of a jack of all trades, master of none.

 

[Deleted member 6191]

in germany it is pretty oversaturated from what I heard. Also you don't make a lot of money usually. The thing with mech eng is that you only really are an expert at the mechanical stuff (and that field is indeed relatively old). In all other fields that you briefly touch in your studies, there will be others that know more than you. Example: You will learn about material engineering, but a physicst or a material engineer will always perform the interesting work later as they have a more specific educaion in that topic. You're kind of a jack of all trades, master of none.

Oh im in canada so idk ab you, but yes starting salary isnt as high as cs but the workload wouldnt be as difficult, yes it is jack of all trades and not mastering at much, it is a vague carrer path. You can work in different markets etc. I don't like CS so I'm probably going into mech, while it isnt exactly amazing or highest paying it is future proof to a degree

 

[Copeful]

Around 8 years (4 years undergrad, 4 years med school) in the US. 5-6 years in Europe lol. Plus you make double what engineers make while exerting quarter of the mental effort. I'm Primarily talking about being a physician (G.P) not a neurosurgeon.

Lol no? In the US you need to complete a low-paying residency, which can take anywhere from 3-8 years depending on your specialty. It's a very very long road. That's a minimum of 7 years after undergrad that you could be making good money gone, and on top of that you are hundreds of thousands in debt. Not worth it

 

[sytyl]

Lol no? In the US you need to complete residency, which can take anywhere from 3-8 years depending on your specialty. It's a very very long road. That's a minimum of 7 years after undergrad that you could be making money gone, and on top of that you are hundreds of thousands in debt. Not worth it

ideal situation:
start uni at 17-18, finish undergrad at 21-22, get accepted into med school, finish it at 25-26, finish residency at 28-29

well worth imo, once you're even a general physician your life is set

 

[Copeful]

ideal situation:
start uni at 17-18, finish undergrad at 21-22, get accepted into med school, finish it at 25-26, finish residency at 28-29

well worth imo, once you're even a general physician your life is set

Nah, definitely not general physician. Imagine going to med school for 4 years, racking up hundreds of thousands in debt, then completing a 3 year residency with a maximum salary of ~ 70k to come out making what a cs grad makes after a few years of experience.

Physician / Doctor, General Practice Salary in 2024 | PayScale

The average salary for a Physician / Doctor, General Practice is $181,347 in 2024. Visit PayScale to research physician / doctor, general practice salaries by city, experience, skill, employer and more.

www.payscale.com

If you go into medicine, you have to go big or go home. Neurosurgery, Radiology, Opthalmology or Dermatology are your only options essentially (all make upwards of 300k). Otherwise you'll be paying off student loans for the rest of your life pretty much (Average debt is 200k+)

 

[sytyl]

Nah, definitely not general physician. Imagine going to med school for 4 years, racking up hundreds of thousands in debt, then completing a 3 year residency with a maximum salary of ~ 70k to come out making what a cs grad makes after a few years of experience.

Physician / Doctor, General Practice Salary in 2024 | PayScale

The average salary for a Physician / Doctor, General Practice is $181,347 in 2024. Visit PayScale to research physician / doctor, general practice salaries by city, experience, skill, employer and more.

www.payscale.com

If you go into medicine, you have to go big or go home. Neurosurgery, Radiology, Opthalmology or Dermatology are your only options essentially.

The worst gp is earning the same as the top 20% of people in cs. Those payscale sites are kinda shit most of the time, a gp working full time 40-50 hours a week in america probably makes ~150-200k usd after taxes + overhead, only the top 20% or so of devs make that amount. Pulling numbers out of my ass btw so don't put too much credence on my post.

With regard to debt, the general rule on ROI for a degree is your debt should not be more than half your yearly income midway through your career - the worst gp still clears this metric probably.

 

[Deleted member 8771]

Depend on what uni you can attend, if you're 140 iq go for math / comp sci and try to get into a hedge fund or a FAANG to moneymaxx.

If you don't have what it takes to do that then i guess the high reward low risk choice you have left is medecine, you will status maxx and money maxx but it takes a shitton of years.

 

[Mouthbreath]

Depend on what uni you can attend, if you're 140 iq go for math / comp sci and try to get into a hedge fund or a FAANG to moneymaxx.

If you don't have what it takes to do that then i guess the high reward low risk choice you have left is medecine, you will status maxx and money maxx but it takes a shitton of years.

for comp sci, specializing in a field where demand is high can be a good idea even if you're not that intelligent. For math and physics, you need to have genius level iq thats my observation as well.

 

[Deleted member 643]

Hi, I'm a dual major in materials science and physics with a minor in pure math, and I advocate at this point for computer engineering, as you will develop the same programming skills as a CS major with a broader skillset and range of abilities.

 

[Deleted member 6273]

Lol no? In the US you need to complete a low-paying residency, which can take anywhere from 3-8 years depending on your specialty. It's a very very long road. That's a minimum of 7 years after undergrad that you could be making good money gone, and on top of that you are hundreds of thousands in debt. Not worth it

Low paying? Average resident gets paid 63400$. I mean it's not high but neither is it low either, it's just about average. Plus you'll end up making 3x that amount in about 3-5 years max ofcourse avoiding the more engaging specialities like plastic surgery or orthopaedics.

Medscape: Medscape Access

What residents are getting paid in 2020 - The DO

Annual Medscape report reveals which specialties get paid the most and least, and how residents feel about their earnings.

thedo.osteopathic.org

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Outside the US it's alot more straightforward since medicine is an undergrad course itself which takes a total of 5 years plus 2 year residency/ foundation couse. So a total of 7 years.

 

[Deleted member 470]

Cs is good rn but I'm quite sure within the next few years the entire field will go through a tough period. The market is extremely saturated, finding a job is already difficult enough as is, even though there's massive demand.

you'd think but 90% of the retards graduating cs are legit dumb as fuck, like double digits iq, honestly don't understand how they graduate

every time I go to class, even the ones that have passed everything, most of them are barely scraping by lmao, and a lot of the people getting good grades are the type that do nothing but study, shit like that doesn't get you anything but grades

 

[CommanderCope]

I mean for me chemistry is really good because my country has a large chemical and pharmaceutical industry.

 

[Swagwaffle]

 

[Deleted member 470]

Obviously medicine lol. Highest average income, most stable career, highest status career, doesn't require natural talent to excel in and so much more. Only problem is that it takes a lot longer than the rest to complete

The rest require a level of natural talent, interest and intelligence to excel in especially Physics and maths.

just study until you're thirty bro

 

[bossman]

cs keeps on evolving, maths is always the same but it is the foundation of all computer science. it also presents the same if not more career opportunities. just self-learn algorithm design and programming and you are good to go.

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

cs keeps on evolving, maths is always the same but it is the foundation of all computer science. it also presents the same if not more career opportunities. just self-learn algorithm design and programming and you are good to go.

Ngl can i also do it as a hobby while working as a dentist/maxfac?

 

[bossman]

Ngl can i also do it as a hobby while working as a dentist/maxfac?

pointless really.

 

[MKBHD]

For people considering CS levels.fyi tells you pay for each company.

A lot of people on this sub are forgetting finance. Technically not stem but not a bad career. You can make the same or more as CS and you don’t need a fuck ton of schooling like a doctor. Only thing though is that you are a wage slave in finance. Might not matter if your inkwell though. Also I’ve heard pay is only good in bulge bracket, MBB, and maybe the big 4.

 

[Deleted member 9288]

I'm already set for aerospace engineering

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Around 8 years (4 years undergrad, 4 years med school) in the US. 5-6 years in Europe lol. Plus you make double what engineers make while exerting quarter of the mental effort. I'm Primarily talking about being a physician (G.P) not a neurosurgeon.

Yes tbh

But i hate biology ngl