Biggest SMV Mystery: Wesley Glouchkov

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This guy has a maybe borderline HTN face with a decently lean/muscular physique (pretty bad frame though) and slightly above average height (6ft) yet he gets treated like he's a genetically engineered maher clone in every single one of his low effort narcy thirst traps.

Go and look at his posts right now. Each one is either a low effort 5 second shirtless video where he's highlighting his subpar physique after a workout, doing some cringe dance moves to some shitty song that should be (in theory) repulsing girls, and then some other miscellaneous lipsyncing bullshit. Every single one is almost exclusively inundated with comments from women thirsting over him.

Inb4 "it's because of status". Nice retrocausality. Probably 80% of his followers are women and he only blew up BECAUSE these thirst traps were inherently attractive to women, irrespective of his following.

And we know that his height and physique can only be tiny multipliers at best (especially since neither are even very good), so it seems we may actually be living in a world where this guy's T50 NCT bug eyes, wide bulbous nose, bloated submental with minimal jaw definition, trashy haircut+moustache, and overall boneless skull all harmonise to create a face that women want to be impregnated by.
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He looks like a cringeworthy cuck whom I would bully for such shitty cringy vids, and yet his comments are flooded. All his traits are above average, yes, but he's not getting top 10-20% treatment... He's getting top 0.1% treatment.

Obviously algorithm plays a factor -- high appeal gym influencers still have 95% male attention e.g. david laid, lucas karger etc. because the algorithm pushes them towards men's fyps, but you would think if this Wesley jester started getting put on girls' FYPs, they'd just swipe right past him because he looks barely above average. They're wasting their time thirsting over HIM instead of actual gigachads.
 
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He is ltn
 
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The jealousy is insane

His physique is top 99% tier, and actual 6 foot is also much more rare than you think; so yea it makes sense women would be into him

Take the 'alleged' slayers here for example in comparison. Apparently you (5'10) , forevergymcelling (5'6), Amnesia (5'7). Who else comes to mind? Clavicular (5'105) - none of them are actual 6 foot and most aren't even close to this physique despite roiding

You are somewhat similar in musculature after Test blasting (a JFL since your endocrine system is ruptured for life but whatever)

Cant believe this is hard for incels to understand. No wonder y'all struggle with women
 
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Yeah, I read first paragraph of your post and let me tell that he looks like pedo with that stache. I bet he is the one who tells everyone "just take care of yourself incel" while he has pedo stache and never seen haridresser
 
Except at least his body is really good mass wise compared to normies so cant seethe
 
You fail to understand because you are a jeffrey whereas he took the adonispill

 
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And yes his maxilla is recessed but JFL if you think it matters with that physique

Why do incels think so binary- I have no clue

Niggas be holdin a martini with their tripod and flash on - their camera phone
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Then hardcore photoshopping it whilst braggin about the pic being taken in a 'New Year's party' JFL
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Y'all the last niggas to be judging other no offence
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The jealousy is insane

His physique is top 99% tier, and actual 6 foot is also much more rare than you think; so yea it makes sense women would be into him

Take the 'alleged' slayers here for example in comparison. Apparently you (5'10) , forevergymcelling (5'6), Amnesia (5'7). Who else comes to mind? Clavicular (5'105) - none of them are actual 6 foot and most aren't even close to this physique despite roiding

You are somewhat similar in musculature after Test blasting (a JFL since your endocrine system is ruptured for life but whatever)

Cant believe this is hard for incels to understand. No wonder y'all struggle with women
I thought loox was 6 foot 5
 
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I thought loox was 6 foot 5
Yes and Crisick is also a Professional CSGO Player, Professor and a part time ESA Astronaut who flew in Cassini
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He has the classic antagonist hallow from old western movies, which for his foids audience probably trigger some childhood lack of male / dad presence they currently feel they need, and they feel they want a man with those characteristics..

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His physique is top 99% tier
So it's bottom 1%? Brutal for Wesley! :lul:

i'll be generous enough to assume you meant 99th percentile. in body composition? sure. but his frame is shit. he is close in muscular to me but I frame mog him into an entirely different galaxy. add the height diff on top and he would look small in real life - i know tons of people with his stats (or better) who don't translate into looking formidable IRL whatsoever. and frame>musculature obviously anyway. or are we going back on that now? everyone has hope for a top tier physique if they get big enough?

also, let's assume his physique is overall 99th percentile; a 99th percentile physique is a modest boost at best. it doesn't boost you to 99.9th percentile SMV

and actual 6 foot is also much more rare than you think; so yea it makes sense women would be into him

Take the 'alleged' slayers here for example in comparasion. Apparently you (5'10) , forevergymcelling (5'6), Amnesia (5'7). Who else comes to mind? Clavicular (5'105) - none of them are actual 6 foot and most aren't even close
yeah funny no true scotsman fallacy joke or whatever but 6'0 is genuinely slightly above average. it's statistically 70-75th percentile in the west.
And yes his maxilla is recessed but JFL if you think it matters with that physique

Why do incels think so binary- I have no clue
it's not binary thinking and I'm obviously far from an incel. I've been at every physique stage from scrawny to current (103kg, 24 inch bideltoid lean) and I have seen what each point along the spectrum equates to in special treatment.

if physique was everything then every gymcel would be drowning in pussy. you need the full package and this guy doesn't have it.

I thought loox was 6 foot 5
"manlets in a bucket" phenomenon. people on PSL who aren't tall try to attempt to prove that no one in the world is actually tall. even the dutch giant is only scraping 6'4 barefoot.
 
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if physique was everything then every gymcel would be drowning in pussy. you need the full package and this guy doesn't have it.
Except most gymcel are bloated and do not have any leanness plus a deeply unhealthy diet of overdosing on protien with virtually no micronutrients

All to look like this:
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I forgot the stat but the amount of 30+ year olds with visible six pack are less than 50 in a million.
So yes a physique matters, but its not about being some size monster (as you are as well) which most men think is what attracts women, when you'd look better to be a moderate weight but look lean with visible packs.

Its a JFL to even bother explaining why you think you are not illciting the same reaction from women in your autistic physique showoff vids



When what most woman want is this: moderately lean physique (ignore that atrocious hairline JFL)
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Most men can reach and achieve this but want to pack on substianally more mass and truly believe this will attract women more. In short, body dysmorphia.

And I am super sorry to trigger your body dysmorphia.
 
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proof that confidence is key!
 
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Guys like him are on the lower end of the high smv scale just off physical attributes and he’s not getting 0.1% treatment JFL if you have to make a thirst trap to get female attention that’s already worrying as a mogger anything you do should attract female attention

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Even standing on the streets women should be walking by showing high interest




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Over if you’re sub anything in this picture

6’3 HTN minimum to have a decent dating life with a beautiful women in 2024
 
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He is ltn
shut up dog
Except most gymcel are bloated and do not have any leanness plus a deeply unhealthy diet of overdosing on protien with virtually no micronutrients
true, lots of gymcels are complete subhumans, but i know a lot of guys with good physiques (same tier as his) who don't do overly well with girls
Its a JFL to even bother explaining why you think you are not illciting the same reaction from women in your autistic physique showoff vids
yeah i know my videos are a complete write off for female appeal, don't get me wrong. but I also think I mog this wesley clown to death in every single trait and yet I don't necessarily believe that I would blow up in the same absurd fashion if I mimicked his content.

so the way I see it is: either we are underrating his face OR most decent looking gymcels would have the potential to be thirsted over as hard as him if they mimicked his content and got lucky with the algorithm. personally I think there is truth to both but I think it's mostly the former unfortunately.

So yes a physique matters, but its not about being some size monster (as you are as well) which most men think is what attracts women, when you'd look better to be a moderate weight but look lean with visible packs.
well I go back and forth on this constantly (what the ideal size is, how much it matters, whether I'm too big / past diminishing returns / ideal size). recently I've had my greatest success of all time by being at absolute peak size and flaunting it hard, so maybe bigger=better to a large extent if you hold the weight well. everyone has contradictory anecdotes based on their own strengths and biases so it's hard to know.

but in studies, larger girth in arms/chest/shoulders had a strong correlation with mating success, so i guess if you wanna listen to the literature instead of anecdotes / words of women... there you go.

Guys like him are on the lower end of the high smv scale just off physical attributes and he’s not getting 0.1% treatment JFL if you have to make a thirst trap to get female attention that’s already worrying as a mogger anything you do should attract female attention
he has 1 million followers (vast majority being women) just from posting low effort thirst traps bro. top 0.1% treatment was an understatement.
 
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but I also think I mog this wesley clown to death in every single trait
I think some guys don't know to separate psl from appeal. Both your face and physique look kind of uncanny whereas his looks more friendly/approachable. That could be a factor.
 
I think some guys don't know to separate psl from appeal. Both your face and physique look kind of uncanny whereas his looks more friendly/approachable. That could be a factor.
Tiktok greycels still haven’t found out the concept of high trust faces and low trust faces. Sick and tired of the appeal vs psl debate

A higher psl raises your appeal they go hand in hand.
 
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I think some guys don't know to separate psl from appeal.
it's not about separating PSL from appeal though. to me, his face has neither.
Both your face and physique look kind of uncanny whereas his looks more friendly/approachable. That could be a factor.
yeah I think that is definitely a relevant factor for online endeavours. if you look striking IRL then it's easy to push it into uncanny territory in pics/videos where you're capturing the best frame/angle of all your striking traits, to the point where it looks over the top. in person it's not possible to look uncanny unless you're botched from surgery.

my success IRL hinges completely on my inhib/vibe. if I walk around like a low trust meanmugger I'll be a permanent incel but if I'm giga low inhib and moodmaxxed I'll get the treatment and success of a gigachad all night. i'm not sure if it's this binary for everyone or only for people who are particularly low trust and scary.

either way, i still can't fathom getting this guy's attention online. basically no one does. even if I purposely sandbagged my strikingness and tried to look as high appeal as possible while mimicking him perfectly.

Even standing on the streets women should be walking by showing high interest
that king68guy is pretty perplexing (not that tiktok... those IOIs aren't that absurd) but I saw some of his YT vids where he was getting giga approached all night. I don't have experiences walking through those places in USA so I can't give a perfect assessment with a direct comparison of my own treatment but I assume that the types of girls he attracts (blacks, ethnics) are lower inhib than white girls, and maybe also because they perceive the rejection rate to be not absurdly high because of the fact that he's black and that he'll probably fuck anything

i cannot imagine a 6'8 white guy with an equal physique and better face than him in a night life setting (in a white area) and getting nearly as many approaches/success.
 
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A higher psl raises your appeal they go hand in hand.
No it doesn't. PSL is just from a mathematical standpoint of all your ratios and stuff like that but it doesn't always translate to appeal. It translates to modelling. The biggest example is de Poop who has high psl and the perfect model face but terrible appeal and would easily be mogged by someone who has less psl but more appeal such as Ryan Reynolds. If a higher psl raises your appeal as you say then ask any woman who looks better, Reynolds or de Poop and 90% of them will say Reynolds.

Tiktok greycels
Jfl at thinking greycel is an insult as if me not rotting by being terminally online on an indian incel forum is a bad thing. Also I've never used tiktok in my life.

high trust faces and low trust faces
This is the same concept as what I said. A higher psl low trust face will look worse than a lower psl high trust face. Though obviously what I'm saying doesn't apply to truecel vs gigachad but more in general.
 
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why you hatin for no reason
Foid tier behavior
 
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"And we know that his height and physique can only be tiny multipliers at best (especially since neither are even very good),"
How old are you 15? Height + Frame is a massive mulitpler litreally go outside. You are too far too deep into PSL autism. Women like Normal handsome high sex appeal men like Cavill, Hexum

Not PSL God male model faggy looking twinks or autists like you who blast gear
 
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The female gaze is something explicable to the male mind. I've seen dudes that are mtn by psl standards being thirsted over on social media. The algo plays a part as you can get unlucky and your profile will be shown to only men or ugly roasties. Another reason is: his face may be high in "averageness", which cannot be easily calculated at a glance and we all know averageness is one of the key determinants of attractiveness.
 
you know I've noticed this many times by now, women seemingly randomly selecting a male on social media and then simping for him

sometimes it's even fat and not even good-looking men, I remember seeing this fasion influencer who looked average and was chubby/borderline fat and yet his entire comment sections were of women simping/thirsting + men saying they are just capping lol

I genuinely think it's just a trend for them & they are jumping on a bandwagon since women are such conformists
(not that the guy is hideous, his physique is top %, almost noone in my gym looks like him)

Normal handsome high sex appeal men like Cavill, Hexum

Not PSL God male model faggy looking twinks or autists like you who blast gear
cavill is blasting gear lol
 
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I think you’re heavily underrating his face and not accounting for taste shifts.

Let’s look at this photo
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We can see the flaws, but that’s not what women focus on. What they do see is his long textured hair, good brows “pretty eyes”, although you might call them dalit eyes we have to accept women will differ.

The second most obvious thing is the mustache. At first I thought this guy would be better off shaving it, but it actually seems to be helping him. Reason being is that it contrasts with his “pretty boy” features well. Most of his comments are actually NOT Jbs which is important to note. Women of 23-28 don’t want the Uber pretty boys, they want traces of masculinity which is what this guy provides.

Lastly, you’re discounting what he does in the videos. He’s often singing a Lana del ray or a different popular R&B song while grinning and making a sensual face. This guy actually looks quite good in motion and is also gaining attention from culture(the music and his outfits.)

Overall it just seems like you’re underrating his good aspects and ignoring other factors.
 
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why you hatin for no reason
Foid tier behavior
how the fuck am I hating? i’m saying that i am PERPLEXED by the phenomenon of this normie getting thirsted over
How old are you 15? Height + Frame is a massive mulitpler litreally go outside. You are too far too deep into PSL autism. Women like Normal handsome high sex appeal men like Cavill, Hexum

Not PSL God male model faggy looking twinks or autists like you who blast gear
I go outside everyday with the best height+frame halo on the entire forum. I think I know how it works little buddy. he has neither height halo nor frame halo.

and i would rather not even reply to the part where you compared this guy to cavill and hexum..

The biggest example is de Poop who has high psl and the perfect model face but terrible appeal and would easily be mogged by someone who has less psl but more appeal such as Ryan Reynolds.
what are you talking about? elias de poot is facially a gigachad. the only deficits are skin tone and physique, and yet you’re conflating this with some magical intricacies in his face which make him “high PSL and low appeal”.

no. he’s just a low trust gigachad with other failos that don’t pertain to his face.

you know I've noticed this many times by now, women seemingly randomly selecting a male on social media and then simping for him
it's absolutely bizarre. it's like they cope with random guys on tiktok who fit the "boy next door" look in order to satisfy their desire to not feel like a disposable harem member for some striking gigachad, and yet then they still blatantly ignore the lack of proximity to this guy in question and also ignore that he has thousands of other women worshipping him in just the same fashion... so they're back to being disposable harem members, but for an even less valuable guy.
I genuinely think it's just a trend for them & they are jumping on a bandwagon since women are such conformists
(not that the guy is hideous, his physique is top %, almost noone in my gym looks like him)
who knows... women are such a comical species. it would greatly decrease my chance for wanting to simp for a girl if thousands of other guys were already doing so, but the fact that for women it could be the opposite... truly a clown world. I don't think the answer to this guy's success is very bandwagon related though.
We can see the flaws, but that’s not what women focus on. What they do see is his long textured hair, good brows “pretty eyes”, although you might call them dalit eyes we have to accept women will differ.
This guy actually looks quite good in motion
well i mean, dude...


is there a single frame in this video where he looks good? I'm not hyper-critical like most PSL basement dwellers (I admit you could argue he scrapes into HTN). if I saw this jester in public, not for a single nanosecond would I think he's a threat in terms of cucking me. I'm even trying to include the averageness of his ratios and the "harmony" of his face into my rating. yet with all those factors in mind, no one would DARE to rate this guy past HTN facially.

once again, I see two possibilities here:
1. there is some magical charm in his face that only women can see which legitimately boosts his face to chadlite+ tier.
2. most above average looking gymcels would be able to get famous off of women's thirst if they made the right types of tiktoks and got lucky enough with the algorithm.

(also, i agree that somehow mullet+moustache combo seems to add appeal to guys in today's current culture which is just comical because objectively it just looks low class and makes you look like you're purposely trying to be a clown because you're too scared to admit that you take yourself seriously)
 
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Take the 'alleged' slayers here for example in comparison. Apparently you (5'10) , forevergymcelling (5'6), Amnesia (5'7). Who else comes to mind? Clavicular (5'105) - none of them are actual 6 foot and most aren't even close to this physique despite roiding
Your baits are getting progressively worse, its like a running back trying to continue his NFL career into his 40s, just hang up the cape and move on.

Time to delete your account pal.
 
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@androgenic I had no idea who you were until I looked you up on tiktok you look uncanny as fuck Lord Farquad looking cunt

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poor little guy chose to insult the one trait that doesn't exist anymore (the haircut I had in february 2022) :lul:
not gonna lie youre htn+, but tell me are u jucing or nah?
 
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Looks like a Pakistani uncle.
 
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its the mustache + mullet combo
also his physique is 99th percentile lets be honest
 
once again, I see two possibilities here:
1. there is some magical charm in his face that only women can see which legitimately boosts his face to chadlite+ tier.
2. most above average looking gymcels would be able to get famous off of women's thirst if they made the right types of tiktoks and got lucky enough with the algorithm.

(also, i agree that somehow mullet+moustache combo seems to add appeal to guys in today's current culture which is just comical because objectively it just looks low class and makes you look like you're purposely trying to be a clown because you're too scared to admit that you take yourself seriously)
I think the answer lies here.

Its easy to gain compliments from foid thirst online, IRL this guy would be invisible next to actual Chadlites in a club, the moustache mullet combo seems to be a trend, I cant figure out why though
 
we are underrating his face
I think you're underrating his face hugely
PSL's binary thinking of attractive and non attractive features is so autistic
Put the same physique with a more uglier face and nothing gonna happen
This dude has a masculine high trust face (puppy golden retriever eyes and nose, and masculine facial hair moustache, and even lower third if you want to be complely honest, cause his lower third actually fits with his face, he would look uncanny with any changements to his lower third IMO)
This type of face actually attracts late teens, early 20s and even mid 20s girls
 
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Women are fucking subhuman retards. I’d say he has appeal to a certain subset of women (this oofy hunter type + the hairstyle) and then other women saw these women simping and joined in because women don’t have brains of their own

Doubt he’d get 99+ on tinder or something
 
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Hes just nichmeaxxed bro i seen a lot of guys who u ll think they r ugly bit it just the moustache + mulate for some reason women love that look
 
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I think the answer lies here.

Its easy to gain compliments from foid thirst online, IRL this guy would be invisible next to actual Chadlites in a club, the moustache mullet combo seems to be a trend, I cant figure out why though
he's an interesting case study. if it became known how much success he gets in real life, that would answer a lot of these questions. it would also be interesting to see the disparity in the attention he gets if he shaves the stache, cuts his hair short, and continues posting tiktoks.
I think you're underrating his face hugely
PSL's binary thinking of attractive and non attractive features is so autistic
Put the same physique with a more uglier face and nothing gonna happen
This dude has a masculine high trust face (puppy golden retriever eyes and nose, and masculine facial hair moustache, and even lower third if you want to be complely honest, cause his lower third actually fits with his face, he would look uncanny with any changements to his lower third IMO)
This type of face actually attracts late teens, early 20s and even mid 20s girls
what you're doing is a prime example of post hoc rationalization. you're attempting to retroactively justify why he gets thirsted after seeing proof that he gets thirsted over. I'm 99% sure you would not be nearly as generous if you didn't have the prior knowledge of him being worshipped on tiktok already. you would be rating him normie, maybe HTN at best.

i know it must be his face (physique can't carry a subhuman into thirst trap territory) but it doesn't change the fact that I'm honest knowing that I would NEVER guess that this guy has appeal if not for seeing the comments on his videos. giving a post hoc rationalization for his appeal (beautiful golden retriever puppy dog t50 eyes bro, i could see he had appeal this whole time!) is just disingenuous. i think we can agree he looks like absolutely nothing special.

and for every 1 guy who manages to have appeal with shit features like cuck eyes, zero bones, etc, there are 20 incels who have the same features + utterly zero appeal.
 
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what you're doing is a prime example of post hoc rationalization. you're attempting to retroactively justify why he gets thirsted after seeing proof that he gets thirsted over. I'm 99% sure you would not be nearly as generous if you didn't have the prior knowledge of him being worshipped on tiktok already. you would be rating him normie, maybe HTN at best.

i know it must be his face (physique can't carry a subhuman into thirst trap territory) but it doesn't change the fact that I'm honest knowing that I would NEVER guess that this guy has appeal if not for seeing the comments on his videos. giving a post hoc rationalization for his appeal (beautiful golden retriever puppy dog t50 eyes bro, i could see he had appeal this whole time!) is just disingenuous. i think we can agree he looks like absolutely nothing special.

and for every 1 guy who manages to have appeal with shit features like cuck eyes, zero bones, etc, there are 20 incels who have the same features + utterly zero appeal.
you shouldn't confirm your thoughts as fact on why i said what i said, just because many users are retards doesn't mean every one would do the same, and yes, i would rate him HTN facially, but does the muh htn chadlite chad ratings matter anyway? i rate as attractive, average, and ugly, when you're rated attractive all it matters is if you're the girl 100% type and you'd get thirtsed on IMO

i mean you're right, i wouldn't guess this dude has this super appeal to the point of having almost a million subscriber, but i wouldn't be shocked see him get thirsted on tiktok at all, he has the phenotype/face for it, as many TT attractive guys i've seen, i think you're underrating the thereshold you need to be thirsted on tiktok, alongside how you do it

yes he looks like nothing special but that's what women want facially mostly, they want a guy they think is pretty/attractive but still achievable for them, that's how it happened to vinnie hacker too, and many others, (this dude named bach too)

no, you're just underrating this dude imo tbh (for the last part), you're trying so bad to make him seem unattractive when he clearly isn't, he's just nothing special
 
subpar physique? :think:
 
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Be a 79% man (facially) theory



Hair & Moustache trend halo + Physique Halo allows him to be seen as having a large lumberjack archetype in the eyes of foids
Height doesn't matter that much through a screen so long as you LOOK big/masc (even if a 6'3+ guy would sizemog him when stood next to him)
 
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This guy has a maybe borderline HTN face with a decently lean/muscular physique (pretty bad frame though) and slightly above average height (6ft) yet he gets treated like he's a genetically engineered maher clone in every single one of his low effort narcy thirst traps.

Go and look at his posts right now. Each one is either a low effort 5 second shirtless video where he's highlighting his subpar physique after a workout, doing some cringe dance moves to some shitty song that should be (in theory) repulsing girls, and then some other miscellaneous lipsyncing bullshit. Every single one is almost exclusively inundated with comments from women thirsting over him.

Inb4 "it's because of status". Nice retrocausality. Probably 80% of his followers are women and he only blew up BECAUSE these thirst traps were inherently attractive to women, irrespective of his following.

And we know that his height and physique can only be tiny multipliers at best (especially since neither are even very good), so it seems we may actually be living in a world where this guy's T50 NCT bug eyes, wide bulbous nose, bloated submental with minimal jaw definition, trashy haircut+moustache, and overall boneless skull all harmonise to create a face that women want to be impregnated by.
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He looks like a cringeworthy cuck whom I would bully for such shitty cringy vids, and yet his comments are flooded. All his traits are above average, yes, but he's not getting top 10-20% treatment... He's getting top 0.1% treatment.

Obviously algorithm plays a factor -- high appeal gym influencers still have 95% male attention e.g. david laid, lucas karger etc. because the algorithm pushes them towards men's fyps, but you would think if this Wesley jester started getting put on girls' FYPs, they'd just swipe right past him because he looks barely above average. They're wasting their time thirsting over HIM instead of actual gigachads.
he has a “high trust” face, and he look “innocent” so match that him having a good physique and some “personality”’it makes females coom
 
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The jealousy is insane

His physique is top 99% tier, and actual 6 foot is also much more rare than you think; so yea it makes sense women would be into him

Take the 'alleged' slayers here for example in comparison. Apparently you (5'10) , forevergymcelling (5'6), Amnesia (5'7). Who else comes to mind? Clavicular (5'105) - none of them are actual 6 foot and most aren't even close to this physique despite roiding

You are somewhat similar in musculature after Test blasting (a JFL since your endocrine system is ruptured for life but whatever)

Cant believe this is hard for incels to understand. No wonder y'all struggle with women
how do u know his or claviculars height, or amnesias?
 
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Idk I have noticed lately that these guys with long hair + moustache combo really get lots of attention for no reason, look at this cunt

 
It's the big chest muscles, people underestimate the importants of a good chest. His physique looks insane because of it. Bad chest destroys the physique the most. Wide clavicles is good but a good chest is equally as important.
 
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Tiktok greycels still haven’t found out the concept of high trust faces and low trust faces. Sick and tired of the appeal vs psl debate

A higher psl raises your appeal they go hand in hand.
this rapist pedo mustache dude has a high trust face??
 
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It's the big chest muscles, people underestimate the importants of a good chest. His physique looks insane because of it. Bad chest destroys the physique the most. Wide clavicles is good but a good chest is equally as important.
you can't seriously believe it's his chest giving him appeal
 
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