bimax+genio+infraorbital implants with dr Pagnoni

[muragoat]

would i benefit from 2-3mm maxillary advancement with 5 degrees ccw?( philtrum convexity and nose changes).would i benefit from infraorbital implants? mandible advancement proposed is 8mm+8mm genio with 4mm genio downgraft. that isn't the definitive plan as i will have to decomp since my lower incisors are crazy flared out. would that be enough to ascend me?​

 

[badsurzzy]

do it

 

[muragoat]

do it

the question is the amount of advancement i can tolerate on the maxilla+ if the genioplasty is too aggressive

 

[anticel]

suggesting more ccw

 

[The Dark Phoenix]

very interesting pheno

 

[muragoat]

suggesting more ccw

the final occlusal plane is about 3degrees

 

[anticel]

the final occlusal plane is about 3degrees

they probably did the measurement with an overextended head posture

 

[muragoat]

they probably did the measurement with an overextended head posture

i don' t think so, can send you the cbct

 

[muragoat]

suggesting more ccw

so you think i would benefit more than 18mm pogonion (chin+mandible)?

 

[muragoat]

very interesting pheno

sub5?

 

[The Dark Phoenix]

sub5?

idk not enough photos to judge but it's the kinda pheno u can get away with some failos

 

[anticel]

so you think i would benefit more than 18mm pogonion (chin+mandible)?

not necessarily but around 8, min 7 ° of ccw

 

[NorwoodAscender]

would ascend hard, but are infras really needed? don’t look too bad to me tbh. feel as spending that money on rhino would have better return on investment, but i could be wrong

 

[Codeinlover]

would i benefit from 2-3mm maxillary advancement with 5 degrees ccw?( philtrum convexity and nose changes).would i benefit from infraorbital implants? mandible advancement proposed is 8mm+8mm genio with 4mm genio downgraft. that isn't the definitive plan as i will have to decomp since my lower incisors are crazy flared out. would that be enough to ascend me?​

Are u gay no offense ?

 

[muragoat]

would ascend hard, but are infras really needed? don’t look too bad to me tbh. feel as spending that money on rhino would have better return on investment, but i could be wrong

pagnoni is the goat for implants and i will have just one surgery. implants is 4k

 

[muragoat]

Are u gay no offense ?

no,but im recessed

 

[idkwhattoputhere]

would i benefit from 2-3mm maxillary advancement with 5 degrees ccw?( philtrum convexity and nose changes).would i benefit from infraorbital implants? mandible advancement proposed is 8mm+8mm genio with 4mm genio downgraft. that isn't the definitive plan as i will have to decomp since my lower incisors are crazy flared out. would that be enough to ascend me?​

you have an insane base, put this shit on full blast you can possible ascend to chadlite

 

[muragoat]

you have an insane base, put this shit on full blast you can possible ascend to chadlite

you have an insane base, put this shit on full blast you can possible ascend to chadlite

thank you,im excited. Based on what you make this assessment

 

[idkwhattoputhere]

long ramus, already sort of hollow cheeks, and good cheekbones

 

[muragoat]

long ramus, already sort of hollow cheeks, and good cheekbones

yh my cheeckbones are my only gifted feature, but will need the infraorbital implants. pmed you btw

 

[muragoat]

not necessarily but around 8, min 7 ° of ccw

so you are suggesting me to go to 0degrees occlusal plane

 

[anticel]

so you are suggesting me to go to 0degrees occlusal plane

as I said, I believe you probably have more, I d suggest 8 based on my experiences and the cases I have seen

 

[muragoat]

maybe you are right on the occlusal plane, i need to decomp and i still don’ t know i would like to save my premolars

as I said, I believe you probably have more, I d suggest 8 based on my experiences and the cases I have seen