Biological determinists are just as religious as religious people

[Deleted member 137296]

the entire concept of determinism can be distilled to 'cause -> effect' - the effect is determined by the cause. but to believe in such a silly notion is to make the leap of faith that there must have been either

a) a cause that happened before all other causes ie exists above cause -> effect (hello, is that you god?)
b) an effect can precede a cause (which it can, look into retrocausality)

either way, there can be no such thing as cause -> effect.

determinism debunked

@lykoris

 

[got.daim]

dnrd

 

[Deleted member 137296]

in reality

there is no such thing as not having free will. either, everything is already predetermined (impossible) or ontological reality at its base level is congruent with free will (it is) - there can be no in between state (compatibilism)

 

[Deleted member 62012]

the entire concept of determinism can be distilled to 'cause -> effect' - the effect is determined by the cause. but to believe in such a silly notion is to make the leap of faith that there must have been either

a) a cause that happened before all other causes ie exists above cause -> effect (hello, is that you god?)
b) an effect can precede a cause (which it can, look into retrocausality)

either way, there can be no such thing as cause -> effect.

determinism debunked

@lykoris

molecule

 

[ropemax]

wow you're so smart

 

[Deleted member 137296]

wow you're so smart

i know

 

[ropemax]

i know

most predictable reply ever. You're a poster child of determinism fucking nugget

 

[Mainlander]

The fact that free will doesn’t exist will haunt me to the end

There is no true story to tell no real choice to make nothing ever unfolds from a self directed soul We are mere spectators in a system scripted long before we took our first breath Everything happens exactly as it must because everything has a cause We cannot bend reality the moment of our...

looksmax.org

 

[Deleted member 137296]

You're a poster child of determinism fucking nugget

wait how

unironically curious

/srs

 

[Deleted member 137296]

determinists have yet to prove what caused the original cause

@ropemax

 

[Deleted member 122022]

the entire concept of determinism can be distilled to 'cause -> effect' - the effect is determined by the cause. but to believe in such a silly notion is to make the leap of faith that there must have been either

a) a cause that happened before all other causes ie exists above cause -> effect (hello, is that you god?)
b) an effect can precede a cause (which it can, look into retrocausality)

either way, there can be no such thing as cause -> effect.

determinism debunked

@lykoris

Determinism is true. Height, intelligence, etc, are hardwired, they will, to some extent, govern your life, but it doesn't lead to thoughts being causal.

 

[looksmaxxed]

one is observable, testable, repeatable the other is not.

causation can still exist in a closed system, you don't need an initiating cause

 

[Deleted member 137296]

oh wow

this forum is actually giga low sentience