Blast and cruise or hard cycle?

[NeedHelpB4School]

I have gotten constrasting opionons so I need to know

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Blast and cruise.

Anyone who says anything else is a moron.

 

[Evgeniy291]

Blast and cruise.

Anyone who says anything else is a moron.

Is blast and cruise

Cycle dose for 10~ weeks
And trt until you decide to do another cycle?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Is blast and cruise

Cycle dose for 10~ weeks
And trt until you decide to do another cycle?

Ideally longer than than 10 weeks of blasting. More like 16 weeks at least. Ideally 20 weeks. Then yes, TRT dosage.

 

[NeedHelpB4School]

is blast and cruise like 500mg first 6-8 weeks and then it tapers down?

 

[yannis]

Ideally longer than than 10 weeks of blasting. More like 16 weeks at least. Ideally 20 weeks. Then yes, TRT dosage.

What’s wrong with pct? What if you don’t plan to hop on again?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

is blast and cruise like 500mg first 6-8 weeks and then it tapers down?

Test E takes 4 weeks to saturate anyway. So you will basically be blasting for 2-4 weeks which is fucking stupid. No need to taper dosages.

What’s wrong with pct? What if you don’t plan to hop on again?

PCT fucks you up more than the steroids ever will. If you plan just to do one cycle, run HGC alongside the Test for the duration of the cycle, and after you finish blasting, cold turkey.

 

[Evgeniy291]

Ideally longer than than 10 weeks of blasting. More like 16 weeks at least. Ideally 20 weeks. Then yes, TRT dosage.

What do you usually add to testosterone on a cycle? Im on 500mg wanted to add something closer to the end, initially wanted to do anavar at the start, but package got seized

 

[LLcel]

Ideally longer than than 10 weeks of blasting. More like 16 weeks at least. Ideally 20 weeks. Then yes, TRT dosage.

rate my cycle for summer

16-20 week cycle + 5 - 10 week pct

Test E 250 (will +50 every week till 500)
Anavar (towards the end of the main cycle)
Proviron (whole cycle)
HGH 3ius morning 3ius night (whole cycle but will taper down dosage)
GH Secretagogues (whole cycle)

+

whole bunch of other noots/peps/misc

 

[Evgeniy291]

rate my cycle for summer

16-20 week cycle + 5 - 10 week pct

Test E 250 (will +50 every week till 500)
Anavar (towards the end of the main cycle)
Proviron (whole cycle)
HGH 3ius morning 3ius night (whole cycle but will taper down dosage)
GH Secretagogues (whole cycle)

+

whole bunch of other noots/peps/misc

Why +50 every week until 500

 

[Blackpiller11]

Test E takes 4 weeks to saturate anyway. So you will basically be blasting for 2-4 weeks which is fucking stupid. No need to taper dosages.


PCT fucks you up more than the steroids ever will. If you plan just to do one cycle, run HGC alongside the Test for the duration of the cycle, and after you finish blasting, cold turkey.

Why does PCT fuck you up?

 

[LLcel]

Why +50 every week until 500

since its my first cycle and want to assess each dosage for sides/benefits till i find the perfect one. will most likely end up staying at 500 for the rest of the duration of the cycle unless it makes me feel shit.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

What do you usually add to testosterone on a cycle? Im on 500mg wanted to add something closer to the end, initially wanted to do anavar at the start, but package got seized

It’s not a bad idea at all to run Test only on your first blast. It will allow you to determine your sensitivity to E2/rate of aromatization. You can always stack in later on cycles. If you add compounds on your first blast, and get sides, you can’t really determine which compounds are causing the sides.

rate my cycle for summer

16-20 week cycle + 5 - 10 week pct

Test E 250 (will +50 every week till 500)
Anavar (towards the end of the main cycle)
Proviron (whole cycle)
HGH 3ius morning 3ius night (whole cycle but will taper down dosage)
GH Secretagogues (whole cycle)

+

whole bunch of other noots/peps/misc

Drop the PCT.
Run HGC for the while cycle (unless you plan to blast and cruise).
MK677? or others? No point running to at with GH unless you are using it for increased appetite.
No need to taper dosage. First cycle go for 500mg test.
I will recommend the same thing above for you also, if it’s your first cycle.

 

[NeedHelpB4School]

rate my cycle for summer

16-20 week cycle + 5 - 10 week pct

Test E 250 (will +50 every week till 500)
Anavar (towards the end of the main cycle)
Proviron (whole cycle)
HGH 3ius morning 3ius night (whole cycle but will taper down dosage)
GH Secretagogues (whole cycle)

+

whole bunch of other noots/peps/misc

why would you take anavar towards the end of your main cycle and not throighout your cycle

 

[NeedHelpB4School]

It’s not a bad idea at all to run Test only on your first blast. It will allow you to determine your sensitivity to E2/rate of aromatization. You can always stack in later on cycles. If you add compounds on your first blast, and get sides, you can’t really determine which compounds are causing the sides.

Drop the PCT.
Run HGC for the while cycle (unless you plan to blast and cruise).
MK677? or others? No point running to at with GH unless you are using it for increased appetite.
No need to taper dosage. First cycle go for 500mg test.
I will recommend the same thing above for you also, if it’s your first cycle.

whats the difference between 300 and 500 since there seems to be almost no change cus we're doing this for looks and not bodybuilding

 

[LLcel]

It’s not a bad idea at all to run Test only on your first blast. It will allow you to determine your sensitivity to E2/rate of aromatization. You can always stack in later on cycles. If you add compounds on your first blast, and get sides, you can’t really determine which compounds are causing the sides.

Drop the PCT.
Run HGC for the while cycle (unless you plan to blast and cruise).
MK677? or others? No point running to at with GH unless you are using it for increased appetite.
No need to taper dosage. First cycle go for 500mg test.
I will recommend the same thing above for you also, if it’s your first cycle.

i was planning to run an HCG the entire time, regardless wanted to ensure my balls are fertile thus the PCT. what ur saying makes sense tho i dont have time or money for a second cycle which is why i just wanted to do it all at once. and yes using the secretagogues solely to balance natural gh pulse + appetite (skinny) + as replacement for a few weeks if HGH gets too pricy. ive already been on peptides for a while so the only thing that could potentially cause sides would be anavar which i plan to incorporate in weeks 10-15 or 20. read provin manages e without suppressing t so dont see how that would fuck anything up.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

why would you take anavar towards the end of your main cycle and not throighout your cycle

It will trash your lipids if you run that long.

since its my first cycle and want to assess each dosage for sides/benefits till i find the perfect one. will most likely end up staying at 500 for the rest of the duration of the cycle unless it makes me feel shit.

1 week isn’t enough time to determine your reaction to each dosage. And will constantly have hormonal fluctuations. Keep it constant the whole blast then drop down. You can do for 300mg if you want.

whats the difference between 300 and 500 since there seems to be almost no change cus we're doing this for looks and not bodybuilding

It’s fine to do 300mg, but I wouldn’t do that if it’s going to be only 1 cycle (not blast and cruise). if you are not blasting and cruising you are going to suppress yourself the same amount wether you run 300mg or 500mg, so there is 0 reason not to run 500mg.

 

[MilkMan87]

HGH 3ius morning 3ius night (whole cycle but will taper down dosage)

You dont need to taper down the dosage while on hgh. also dont need to cycle. and bump that up to 8ius if you want some real gains

 

[LLcel]

It will trash your lipids if you run that long.


1 week isn’t enough time to determine your reaction to each dosage. And will constantly have hormonal fluctuations. Keep it constant the whole blast then drop down. You can do for 300mg if you want.

It’s fine to do 300mg, but I wouldn’t do that if it’s going to be only 1 cycle (not blast and cruise). if you are not blasting and cruising you are going to suppress yourself the same amount wether you run 300mg or 500mg, so there is 0 reason not to run 500mg.

so blast 500 from weeks 0-16 then slowly taper off 100 each week till cold turkey? whats ur personal experience on 300 v 500 im still tryna decide what to go with.

 

[Evgeniy291]

since its my first cycle and want to assess each dosage for sides/benefits till i find the perfect one. will most likely end up staying at 500 for the rest of the duration of the cycle unless it makes me feel shit.

You won't notice any difference, it takes 4 weeks to saturate anyway, im on the end of 3rd week now and didnt feel anything until the end of the 2nd

It’s not a bad idea at all to run Test only on your first blast. It will allow you to determine your sensitivity to E2/rate of aromatization.

Yeah its ASS, I tested E2 at the end of 2nd week, it was 80 pg/ml.
On 0.25mg arimidex eod, will retest at the end of 4th week

You can always stack in later on cycles. If you add compounds on your first blast, and get sides, you can’t really determine which compounds are causing the sides.

True. And how long to ideally wait between each cycle, if I don't want to rape my skin and hair?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

so blast 500 from weeks 0-16 then slowly taper off 100 each week till cold turkey? whats ur personal experience on 300 v 500 im still tryna decide what to go with.

You should try extend your first cycle as long as possible. Ideally run it for 20-24 weeks. Run HGC along side that. Then cold turkey. Obviously it’s only a 200mg difference but since you and only doing one cycle it’s best to milk out all the gains you can get from it, hence the 500mg and you will still be suppressed the same amount. Don’t leave gains on the table for the same amount of suppression. Doesn’t make sense to do that.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

True. And how long to ideally wait between each cycle, if I don't want to rape my skin and hair?

I like to do time on = time off.

Blood markers can also tell you if you are ready before that.

> Hairloss
Duta + ru58841

> Acne and skin
GHK-cu, Duta, Accutane

 

[LLcel]

You should try extend your first cycle as long as possible. Ideally run it for 20-24 weeks. Run HGC along side that. Then cold turkey. Obviously it’s only a 200mg difference but since you and only doing one cycle it’s best to milk out all the gains you can get from it, hence the 500mg and you will still be suppressed the same amount. Don’t leave gains on the table for the same amount of suppression. Doesn’t make sense to do that.

makes sense thank you. most likely wont pass 20 weeks due to costs/school.

 

[Evgeniy291]

I like to do time on = time off.

Blood markers can also tell you if you are ready before that.

What do I look for?

> Hairloss
Duta + ru58841

Im on just fin rn, almost 19 nw 0.5
Shouldn't be an issue for now I hope

> Acne and skin
GHK-cu, Duta, Accutane

Got no acne, and im on tretinoin. Not sure whether accutane would be better?

And I wanted to use ghk-cu as well but it's expensive as fuck if I do it long term

 

[ltnburger]

Test E takes 4 weeks to saturate anyway. So you will basically be blasting for 2-4 weeks which is fucking stupid. No need to taper dosages.


PCT fucks you up more than the steroids ever will. If you plan just to do one cycle, run HGC alongside the Test for the duration of the cycle, and after you finish blasting, cold turkey.

how does pct fuck u up?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

how does pct fuck u up?

It doesn’t do anything to restart Test production. It actually only harms recovery since both fertility and testosterone recovers slower in the pct group in the study. PCT only helps against withdrawal symptoms.

Disruption and recovery of testicular function during and after androgen abuse: the HAARLEM study

AbstractSTUDY QUESTION. What is the speed and extent by which endogenous testosterone production and spermatogenesis recover after androgen abuse?SUMMARY A

academic.oup.com

makes sense thank you. most likely wont pass 20 weeks due to costs/school.

Good luck. Test isn’t expensive at all though.

Im on just fin rn, almost 19 nw 0.5
Shouldn't be an issue for now I hope

Add ru58841 if you are concerned and personally I would use Dut, but do as you wish.

Got no acne, and im on tretinoin. Not sure whether accutane would be better?

If you have no acne and been on a while then don’t worry. Otherwise Accutane. Duta would also help with skin, especially on Test.

And I wanted to use ghk-cu as well but it's expensive as fuck if I do it long term

Just don’t nuke your collagen and elastin to begin with.

 

[Evgeniy291]

Add RU if you are concerned and personally I would use Dut, but do as you wish.

I can't find dut in pharmacies here, and if I do end up getting dut, do I just stop fin and go on dut or do it slowly?

Id add RU but I don't feel like its needed right now, if it gets worse I definitely will get on.


I actually do have a bit of acne on my chest, maybe 3 reddish pimples but that's all

 

[chadisbeingmade]

I can't find dut in pharmacies here, and if I do end up getting dut, do I just stop fin and go on dut or do it slowly?

No reason to use both at the same time. You can use Fin and Dut in the beginning while Duta reaches full concentration but then you can stop Fin usage. You can just swap though realistically without overlapping them.

Id add RU but I don't feel like its needed right now, if it gets worse I definitely will get on.

Trust me prevention is 100% better than having to regain ground. It’s worth adding it in as prevention. And by the time you start noticing loss a decent amount may have gone. Always prevent and not take it for granted.

 

[Evgeniy291]

No reason to use both at the same time. You can use Fin and Dut in the beginning while Duta reaches full concentration but then you can stop Fin usage. You can just swap though realistically without overlapping them.


Trust me prevention is 100% better than having to regain ground. It’s worth adding it in as prevention. And by the time you start noticing loss a decent amount may have gone. Always prevent and not take it for granted.

Thanks, ill order RU next week