Bloodwork out of wack, hypersensitive/overreaction?

[Sachlichkeit]

T 1850 ng/dl
SHBG 45 ng/mol
FREE T 263 ng/ml
BIOAVAILABLE T 610 ng/dl
E 51 ng/ml
IGF-1 201 ng/ml
Blood sugar 70 mg/dl (been on mk for maybe 3mos)

STACK
25mg enclo
20mg mk-677
1mg letro
everything taken in morning

Side effects

hair thinning from DHT conversion, severe mood swings, gay thoughts (lol), slight gyno.

Lowering enclo to 12.5mg, if T still too high will lower down to 6.25
keeping mk at 20mg,
want to up letro dose to 2mg/day to nuke E down to ~10
gonna pin HGH next month probably

Goal is to get e to ~10ng/ml, T ~1000 ng/dl, and to bump igf-1 to over 456ng/ml to make my bones bigger. Thoughts? Any oldheads with sound advice?

 

[imontheloose]

Precursor. I mean no harm with this post, son. If you want me to elaborate anywhere, just let me know.

This whole setup is flat-out moronic.

No exogenous test? Asking for wild swings. Enclo cranks your pituitary to pump out LH/FSH, but your Leydig cells can only make so much test. You end up overshooting (as you saw with 1850ng/dL total), then crashing between enclo doses.

With no stable test ester, your levels are all over the place.

Enclo + lestro is a horrible combination. You're driving E2 down with a nuclear AI whilst simultaneously pushing your body to produce more test and thus more E2 via endo. It's like pissing into a hurricane and trying to mop it up with a teaspoon. Totally avoidable drama.

MK677 on top just adds metabolic hell. You've been on MK677 for 3mo and your IGF-1 is only 201ng/mL. Weak response and now you're flirting with insulin resistance and bloat for zero real benefit. If you want GH axis stimulation, pin real GH, don't take the shitty, slow-release, non-pulsatile hack.

Your labs are a disaster too. Test is nearly 2μg/dL. E2 at 51pg/mL is already high for that test level. Then you want to crush it to 10? You'll be a dried-out zombie. SHBG normal, free test through the roof, your pituitary axis and hormone binding are totally out of the whack.

The right move is to dump the enclo. Run 300-500mg/week of test. Titrate your AI realistically. Start 0.5mg arimidex EOD, test E2 in 2 weeks, target ~20-30pg/mL. Pin 3IU GH for the love of God. And take dutasteride NOW.

 

[Sachlichkeit]

Precursor. I mean no harm with this post, son. If you want me to elaborate anywhere, just let me know.

This whole setup is flat-out moronic.

No exogenous test? Asking for wild swings. Enclo cranks your pituitary to pump out LH/FSH, but your Leydig cells can only make so much test. You end up overshooting (as you saw with 1850ng/dL total), then crashing between enclo doses.

With no stable test ester, your levels are all over the place.

Enclo + lestro is a horrible combination. You're driving E2 down with a nuclear AI whilst simultaneously pushing your body to produce more test and thus more E2 via endo. It's like pissing into a hurricane and trying to mop it up with a teaspoon. Totally avoidable drama.

MK677 on top just adds metabolic hell. You've been on MK677 for 3mo and your IGF-1 is only 201ng/mL. Weak response and now you're flirting with insulin resistance and bloat for zero real benefit. If you want GH axis stimulation, pin real GH, don't take the shitty, slow-release, non-pulsatile hack.

Your labs are a disaster too. Test is nearly 2μg/dL. E2 at 51pg/mL is already high for that test level. Then you want to crush it to 10? You'll be a dried-out zombie. SHBG normal, free test through the roof, your pituitary axis and hormone binding are totally out of the whack.

The right move is to dump the enclo. Run 300-500mg/week of test. Titrate your AI realistically. Start 0.5mg arimidex EOD, test E2 in 2 weeks, target ~20-30pg/mL. Pin 3IU GH for the love of God. And take dutasteride NOW.

OK, will do. THANKS

 

[Sachlichkeit]

This whole setup is flat-out moronic.

No exogenous test? Asking for wild swings. Enclo cranks your pituitary to pump out LH/FSH, but your Leydig cells can only make so much test. You end up overshooting (as you saw with 1850ng/dL total), then crashing between enclo doses.

With no stable test ester, your levels are all over the place.

Enclo + lestro is a horrible combination. You're driving E2 down with a nuclear AI whilst simultaneously pushing your body to produce more test and thus more E2 via endo. It's like pissing into a hurricane and trying to mop it up with a teaspoon. Totally avoidable drama.

MK677 on top just adds metabolic hell. You've been on MK677 for 3mo and your IGF-1 is only 201ng/mL. Weak response and now you're flirting with insulin resistance and bloat for zero real benefit. If you want GH axis stimulation, pin real GH, don't take the shitty, slow-release, non-pulsatile hack.

Your labs are a disaster too. Test is nearly 2μg/dL. E2 at 51pg/mL is already high for that test level. Then you want to crush it to 10? You'll be a dried-out zombie. SHBG normal, free test through the roof, your pituitary axis and hormone binding are totally out of the whack.

The right move is to dump the enclo. Run 300-500mg/week of test. Titrate your AI realistically. Start 0.5mg arimidex EOD, test E2 in 2 weeks, target ~20-30pg/mL. Pin 3IU GH for the love of God. And take dutasteride NOW.

>No exogenous test? Asking for wild swings. Enclo cranks your pituitary to pump out LH/FSH, but your Leydig cells can only make so much test. You end up overshooting (as you saw with 1850ng/dL total), then crashing between enclo doses.

Wouldn't exogenous test give me more wild hormonal swings?

>Enclo + lestro is a horrible combination. You're driving E2 down with a nuclear AI whilst simultaneously pushing your body to produce more test and thus more E2 via endo. It's like pissing into a hurricane and trying to mop it up with a teaspoon. Totally avoidable drama.

I doubled letro to 2mgs day, mood swings are gone. Lot of hormonal acne on back and chest. lmao didn't know letro was nuclear option thought arimidex and letro were same potency.

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MK677 on top just adds metabolic hell. You've been on MK677 for 3mo and your IGF-1 is only 201ng/mL. Weak response and now you're flirting with insulin resistance and bloat for zero real benefit. If you want GH axis stimulation, pin real GH, don't take the shitty, slow-release, non-pulsatile hack.

Thats because the 25mg enclo is eating my IGF-1. If I wasn't on MK it would be lower. I think insulin resistance can be mitigated with healthy lifestyle. I've heard of people running mk for minimum a year using insulin memetics and cutting sugar out of diet. Too much hype, both MK's effects on IGF-1 and the insulin scare is overblown. If/when I get off enclo and switch to exogenous test I'll lower the dose to 10mg for appetite. Gained 25lbs in 3 months. Good for weight.

>if you want GH axis stimulation, pin real GH, don't take the shitty, slow-release, non-pulsatile hack.

The HGH halflife is like 6 hours, so I'd have to pin twice day for sustained levels, right?

>Your labs are a disaster too. Test is nearly 2μg/dL. E2 at 51pg/mL is already high for that test level.

ok

Then you want to crush it to 10? You'll be a dried-out zombie.

yes something like that. Lower third percentile, <20.

>SHBG normal, free test through the roof, your pituitary axis and hormone binding are totally out of the whack.

>free test through the roof

Isn't that GOOD for dimorphism?

>The right move is to dump the enclo. Run 300-500mg/week of test. Titrate your AI realistically. Start 0.5mg arimidex EOD, test E2 in 2 weeks, target ~20-30pg/mL. Pin 3IU GH for the love of God. And take dutasteride NOW.

3 iu HGH sounds like the perfect amount to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

T 300mg/7 = 43mg a in mornings. If I wean myself off letro and switch to arimidex won't I am get gyno because of the rebound. Will lower dose when I switch to test.

300mg test
7iu HGH
IGF-1 Des for specific bone + muscle groups, Pec, delts, quads.
1mg letro
10mg mk (appetite)
anavar (later) for bones. Will see how body reacts to stack first.

Mitigation

GHK-CU, Dutas, some sort of blood pressure medication.

What about infertility and PCT since test is going to shrink my balls? HCG and enclomiphene?