Bone remodeling

[Deleted member 6382]

Other than d3 and k2 megadose, what else?

 

[W0KESTMOTHF]

Maybe hgh

 

[Deleted member 6382]

Maybe hgh

Too risky, im just doing it for my mse

 

[Vergil.is]

bone is not fucking playdo

 

[W0KESTMOTHF]

Too risky, im just doing it for my mse

I'm injecting alibaba hgh rn jfl at my iq

 

[Deleted member 6382]

bone is not fucking playdo

 

[betamanlet]

Craniofacial bones remodel undel mechanical stress moreso than due to vitamin intake.

 

[Vergil.is]

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im just telling you because apparently you wanna "remodel" bones like its fucking plasteline

 

[Deleted member 6382]

Craniofacial bones remodel undel mechanical stress moreso than due to vitamin intake.

Lifefuel. So Igf-1 doesnt matter that much? Just the force applied

 

[Deleted member 6382]

im just telling you because apparently you wanna "remodel" bones like its fucking plasteline

I'm losing iq points just reading the shit u say

 

[Vergil.is]

I'm losing iq points just reading the shit u say

thats the point

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Craniofacial bones remodel undel mechanical stress moreso than due to vitamin intake.

Obviously you need stress lmao. The vitamins just make the bone more susceptible and easier to remodel

 

[optimisticzoomer]

This will increase bone density

 

[Deleted member 6382]

Obviously you need stress lmao. The vitamins just make the bone more susceptible and easier to remodel

Im guessing he means the help they provide is insignificant

This will increase bone density

Hmm

 

[Deleted member 6382]

Bumperino

 

[betamanlet]

Obviously you need stress lmao. The vitamins just make the bone more susceptible and easier to remodel

From what I've read vitamins like K2 and D strengthen the bone and increase its density, which implies more resistance to remodelling. Realistically though, not a lot of bone remodelling is about the bone itself, but rather about growth along the sutural sites. However, sutural growth is feasible for anyone who isn't severely ill. Even people who have undergone severe malnourishment can have great development.

Lifefuel. So Igf-1 doesnt matter that much? Just the force applied

It does matter in terms of absolute size. But as far as reaching optimal harmony and jaw dynamics go, it isn't that significant.

 

[RAITEIII]

Try showering twice per day

 

[optimisticzoomer]

From what I've read vitamins like K2 and D strengthen the bone and increase its density, which implies more resistance to remodelling. Realistically though, not a lot of bone remodelling is about the bone itself, but rather about growth along the sutural sites. However, sutural growth is feasible for anyone who isn't severely ill. Even people who have undergone severe malnourishment can have great development.


It does matter in terms of absolute size. But as far as reaching optimal harmony and jaw dynamics go, it isn't that significant.

Not as an adult though without physically breaking the suture like with mse

 

[betamanlet]

Not as an adult though without physically breaking the suture like with mse

The sutures that actually matter don't really ever fuse, given that sufficient mechanical loading is provided. Mouthbreathing for years and years might result in premature (partial) ossification.

 

[Deleted member 6382]

From what I've read vitamins like K2 and D strengthen the bone and increase its density, which implies more resistance to remodelling.

Saying that higher bone density negatively affects the remodeling process is wrong tho.
The remodeling will take place anyway, but hopefully, increasing bone density or leaving it unaltered instead of decreasing it.

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Other than d3 and k2 megadose, what else?

k2 megadose inhibits remodeling lmao

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Saying that higher bone density negatively affects the remodeling process is wrong tho.
The remodeling will take place anyway, but hopefully, increasing bone density or leaving it unaltered instead of decreasing it.

no k2 inhibits osteoclasts

 

[Deleted member 6382]

k2 megadose inhibits remodeling lmao

Saying that higher bone density negatively affects the remodeling process is wrong tho.
The remodeling will take place anyway, but hopefully, increasing bone density or leaving it unaltered instead of decreasing it.

 

[Deleted member 6382]

no k2 inhibits osteoclasts

Saying that osteoclast's inhibition, negatively affects the remodeling process is stupid

 

[Deleted member 2621]

Lifefuel. So Igf-1 doesnt matter that much? Just the force applied

Actually bro, igf-1 is major for bone growth bud...

 

[betamanlet]

Saying that higher bone density negatively affects the remodeling process is wrong tho.
The remodeling will take place anyway, but hopefully, increasing bone density or leaving it unaltered instead of decreasing it.

Remodelling will take place anyway, that's true. However,, the denser the bone, the slower the remodeling is going to be due to a larger amount of cells that need to be affected..

 

[Deleted member 6382]

Remodelling will take place anyway, that's true. However,, the denser the bone, the slower the remodeling is going to be due to a larger amount of cells that need to be affected..

Source? First time hearing this tbh, genuinely curious

 

[Deleted member 6382]

Actually bro, igf-1 is major for bone growth bud...

Can you run me down the negatives of high igf-1, ill do my own research later too

 

[Deleted member 2621]

Can you run me down the negatives of high igf-1, ill do my own research later too

- cancer
- lifespan
- organ growth
- someone had a theory on arthritis (dont believe it)
- blood sugar
- diabetes
- depending on suppmementation liver



Still imo mvp of hormones, also there are ways to prevent most of the sides

 

[Deleted member 6382]

- cancer
- lifespan
- organ growth
- someone had a theory on arthritis (dont believe it)
- blood sugar
- diabetes
- depending on suppmementation liver



Still imo mvp of hormones, also there are ways to prevent most of the sides

Ill just stick to longer pulling duration lmao

 

[Deleted member 10536]

bone is not fucking playdo

Tell that to my half empty syringes.

 

[betamanlet]

Source? First time hearing this tbh, genuinely curious

I don't have any specific source (a lot of what I talk about is just what I remember reading from one source or another, or knowledge that I have synthesized myself), but consider for example that women have an easier time achieving bone remodeling than men, as their bones are less dense than men. Consider also that your body is able to maintain a set (nonfixed) amount of bone turnover. In a scenario where your bones become more dense, your body's ability to increase bone turnover won't suddenly become greater too, as the latter is limited by several metabolic factors. So your bone remodelling will happen at a fixed rate of x cells per minute (or something similar) regardless of how many cells your bone consists of per cubic inch (or something similar)

 

[Deleted member 2621]

Ill just stick to longer pulling duration lmao

For remodeling thats probably smart lol

But for real growth i dont think you can get by without it. Also google benefits igf1 youll be blown away

 

[Deleted member 6382]

I don't have any specific source (a lot of what I talk about is just what I remember reading from one source or another, or knowledge that I have synthesized myself), but consider for example that women have an easier time achieving bone remodeling than men, as their bones are less dense than men. Consider also that your body is able to maintain a set (nonfixed) amount of bone turnover. In a scenario where your bones become more dense, your body's ability to increase bone turnover won't suddenly become greater too, as the latter is limited by several metabolic factors. So your bone remodelling will happen at a fixed rate of x cells per minute (or something similar) regardless of how many cells your bone consists of per cubic inch (or something similar)

Makes sense

 

[Deleted member 6382]

For remodeling thats probably smart lol

But for real growth i dont think you can get by without it. Also google benefits igf1 youll be blown away

Sounds like a youth hormone from what Im reading, but feeds cancer and other shit too

But for real growth i dont think you can get by without it.

Im hoping for around 3-4mm of forward movement and the about the same amount (3-4mm) downwards
Could I make it without it? (20yo with slight underbite btw)

 

[Deleted member 2621]

Sounds like a youth hormone from what Im reading, but feeds cancer and other shit too

Im hoping for around 3-4mm of forward movement and the about the same amount (3-4mm) downwards
Could I make it without it? (20yo with slight underbite btw)

Maxilla, yea i think so.

Problem is gonna be advancing your mandible, thats harder

 

[Deleted member 6382]

Problem is gonna be advancing your mandible, thats harder

My mandible is in a hindered position (it wants to slide forward but the teeth and maxilla wont let it)
Hopefully it all goes smooth like butter