BRUTAL frame (high estrogen frame)

[beefliverontop]

What the fuck do i do,
Im 14 yrs old but i started puberty early and
Despite going to the gym, my frame still sucks. My body looks all bad and shit.
You name it all i have it, gyno, asymmetrical shoulder, bad chest genetics, wide hips, narrow clavicles…

Here r some before and after pics. I bulked and became a disgusting bloatcel just to look just as bad due to my wide hips ruining everything
(The one with the beach is not working out at all, the one with the gray sweatpants is 2 years in, and the other ones are 3 years in)

 

[MA_ascender]

Roid

 

[piec]

i wonder if regular heightmaxxing protocol with t helps frame during puberty. hgh + t for clavicle and aromatese inhibitor to prevent hips from widening

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

its okay, you are 14, it grow eventually.

 

[97baHater]

It's alright, it's bad but not death tier bro. Look at my frame.

 

[beefliverontop]

Roid

i live with my parents tho and they will see if i order it with their money

 

[UrGirlsMcm]

i live with my parents tho and they will see if i order it with their money

You are retarded for taking that suggestion seriously

 

[beefliverontop]

It's alright, it's bad but not death tier bro. Look at my frame.
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When i used to be skinny i had exactly this but wide hips.
If you just workout and bulk like crazy i can see u achieving a nice body

 

[beefliverontop]

You are retarded for taking that suggestion seriously

What other choice do i have nigga?

 

[beefliverontop]

its okay, you are 14, it grow eventually.

yea but.. i started puberty early and im almost done with growing (like tanner stage 4.3 rn)

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

yea but.. i started puberty early and im almost done with growing (like tanner stage 4.3 rn)

do you grow beard?

 

[beefliverontop]

do you grow beard?

yea i have little hairs on chin, i can grow sideburns and a mustache, i have little hairs on my cheeks, and also on my neck.

 

[beefliverontop]

i wonder if regular heightmaxxing protocol with t helps frame during puberty. hgh + t for clavicle and aromatese inhibitor to prevent hips from widening

Probally will help but bro, where do i get the money. My parents dont even allow me a card i use cash for everything

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

yea i have little hairs on chin, i can grow sideburns and a mustache, i have little hairs on my cheeks, and also on my neck.

do you have signifacnt body hair?

 

[beefliverontop]

do you have signifacnt body hair?

Yep, alot of leg hair, hair on my balls (like alot)
a bit arm hair (not that noticeable but u can see from close distance)
A bit of chest hair, i have hair on my stomach

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

Yep, alot of leg hair, hair on my balls (like alot)
a bit arm hair (not that noticeable but u can see from close distance)
A bit of chest hair, i have hair on my stomach

does your dad has a narrow frame?

 

[beefliverontop]

does your dad has a narrow frame?

Yes, his bones are just a bit wider than mine and he doesnt have wide hips like me
I was fat so prolly cuz the excess estrogen i developed wide hips

 

[beefliverontop]

does your dad has a narrow frame?

Do u have advice for me

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

Do u have advice for me

how tall are you? you can try steroids like when you become 17

 

[beefliverontop]

how tall are you? you can try steroids like when you become 17

6’1

 

[Tallooksmaxxer]

6’1

well you can risk your height gains for steroids, it doesnt mean you will definietly have a clavicle growth if you roid but there is a chance, dont stress too much about your frame.

 

[beefliverontop]

bump

 

[Saint Casanova]

Moron, you’re fat. Get to 12% bf and then see.

 

[beefliverontop]

Moron, you’re fat. Get to 12% bf and then see.

blud im 18% bf j jus have gyno
But i am cutting right now so we will see

 

[LonelyLooksmaxxer]

About the wide hips there isn't much that can be done other than lowering the body fat %.


However I have a theory that drinking alcohol can cause wide hips. Thus avoiding it would be a good idea.

 

[Saint Casanova]

blud im 18% bf j jus have gyno
But i am cutting right now so we will see

No, you’re around 22-23 percent bf.

 

[beefliverontop]

No, you’re around 22-23 percent bf.

I have lots of veins tho

 

[FwDelta]

What the fuck do i do,
Im 14 yrs old but i started puberty early and
Despite going to the gym, my frame still sucks. My body looks all bad and shit.
You name it all i have it, gyno, asymmetrical shoulder, bad chest genetics, wide hips, narrow clavicles…

Here r some before and after pics. I bulked and became a disgusting bloatcel just to look just as bad due to my wide hips ruining everything
(The one with the beach is not working out at all, the one with the gray sweatpants is 2 years in, and the other ones are 3 years in)

best 15 yrs old frame

 

[beefliverontop]

View attachment 3012393best 15 yrs old frame

Lucky nigge

 

[FwDelta]

Lucky nigge

im gonna gymcel for a while and hopefully get 170lbs bw and be perfect phys might do some sarms

 

[flippasav]

At least you have better arms than me

 

[cannotbeasked]

What other choice do i have nigga?

Wait?? You’re 14 and you haven’t even come close to hitting the natural ceiling for gains, and you realize steroids are much more than just pinning your ass cheeks once a week? Also no fucking way you’re sub 20% body fat. This site really shouldn’t allow under 16 year olds minimum, I hope your father finds you trying to buy test off Amazon and beats you over the head with a broom.

 

[beefliverontop]

Wait?? You’re 14 and you haven’t even come close to hitting the natural ceiling for gains, and you realize steroids are much more than just pinning your ass cheeks once a week? Also no fucking way you’re sub 20% body fat. This site really shouldn’t allow under 16 year olds minimum, I hope your father finds you trying to buy test off Amazon and beats you over the head with a broom.

nigga what gains can i make w my body. Ill never achieve an aeshetic body.
clav is roiding since 14 yrs old he is fine now and his frame ascended crazy

And im not just doing this for “gains”. Idc bout muscles, i want bone, height, wider frame.

 

[cannotbeasked]

nigga what gains can i make w my body. Ill never achieve an aeshetic body.
clav is roiding since 14 yrs old he is fine now and his frame ascended crazy

And im not just doing this for “gains”. Idc bout muscles, i want bone, height, wider frame.

Nigga your bloat, gyno, wide hips, asymmetrical shoulders and shit chest genetics will not be alleviated by steroid use, the only real inkling of a “reason” to use them right now would be for height and a wider frame, but I’m pretty fucking sure steroids do not promote long bone growth, only density. Your clavicles grow well into your 20s and it isn't uncommon for them to keep growing until you’re 25.

 

[beefliverontop]

Nigga your bloat, gyno, wide hips, asymmetrical shoulders and shit chest genetics will not be alleviated by steroid use, the only real inkling of a “reason” to use them right now would be for height and a wider frame, but I’m pretty fucking sure steroids do not promote long bone growth, only density. Your clavicles grow well into your 20s and it isn't uncommon for them to keep growing until you’re 25.

Grrrrrrr
You makin me angwy….
roids will grow my clavs! Idc bout bad chest genetics or hips!!

 

[MoggerM]

yea but.. i started puberty early and im almost done with growing (like tanner stage 4.3 rn)

There's a framemaxxing thread on botb it has all that could help anything else other than that and HGH is cope

 

[chimpkill]

It's alright, it's bad but not death tier bro. Look at my frame.
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Over how old are you

 

[97baHater]

Over how old are you

17

 

[chimpkill]

17

Damn well go to the gym for a better physique

 

[beefliverontop]

There's a framemaxxing thread on botb it has all that could help anything else other than that and HGH is cope

How is hgh cope?

 

[MJLmaxilla]

bro you are 14. You basically just started puberty. Just eat well and get enough sleep and sunlight. I has massive frame ascension from 14-18. I had a regular frame at first now i have nearly 23" bidelt. I did train shoulder a lot but im still only 180, im not huge.

 

[beefliverontop]

bro you are 14. You basically just started puberty. Just eat well and get enough sleep and sunlight. I has massive frame ascension from 14-18. I had a regular frame at first now i have nearly 23" bidelt. I did train shoulder a lot but im still only 180, im not huge.

Im tanner stage 4.3 max is 5 i am basically almost done with growing i have 1-2 years left

 

[MJLmaxilla]

Im tanner stage 4.3 max is 5 i am basically almost done with growing i have 1-2 years left

That means nothing lol many people hit growth spurts well after this dumb scale. Dont worry bro. You are literally 14.

 

[beefliverontop]

That means nothing lol many people hit growth spurts well after this dumb scale. Dont worry bro. You are literally 14.

Thanks…..
You give me hope..

 

[MJLmaxilla]

Thanks…..
You give me hope..

no problem bro

 

[MoggerM]

How is hgh cope?

I meant that anything else is cope not hgh, also use it with ai or else only your nose grows

 

[Timmy]

What the fuck do i do,
Im 14 yrs old but i started puberty early and
Despite going to the gym, my frame still sucks. My body looks all bad and shit.
You name it all i have it, gyno, asymmetrical shoulder, bad chest genetics, wide hips, narrow clavicles…

Here r some before and after pics. I bulked and became a disgusting bloatcel just to look just as bad due to my wide hips ruining everything
(The one with the beach is not working out at all, the one with the gray sweatpants is 2 years in, and the other ones are 3 years in)

Honestly, you dont look narrow. Like if I saw you irl wouldnt see you as a framelet. But do u have shitty waist? Yea

 

[MA_ascender]

17

Roid nigga

 

[St.TikTokcel]

Genuinely concerned after looking through this thread @Saint Casanova . Klinefelter's takeover is real.

 

[Ukraine1]

Steroid website king of hearts . Cc

SARMS suppose to be swisschems.com