Brutal NT Pill Experience

[Deleted member 23218]

My friend who would be rated truecel got a gf who he has had sex with. I saw pics she is a white ltb, my friend is 5'7 truecel SEA but he is giga nt and social circle maxxed. Brutal tbh, he says I need "rizz" and doesn't understand how I don't have gf just cuz above average height (over 6'2 with my one inch lifts) and my vinnie the faggot hair. What he doesent undertsnad is that I am curry (even if lightskin and being half paki decreases the failo) and also MTN at best. Over for non nt cels I cant cope tbh all I can do is keep looksmaxxing

Tagging NT Pill experts @Artemis

 

[Amexmaxx]

 

[Deleted member 23218]

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Over for low iqcels. I dont understand what this means

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

Psychiatric drugs make you NT if that's what you want. But let's face it you'd rather be blackpilled.

 

[Deleted member 23218]

Psychiatric drugs make you NT if that's what you want. But let's face it you'd rather be blackpilled.

Im starting ritalin anything else that can help me have less cortisol and anxiety when forced to speak to people I dont know. I am scared of talking to new people and very akward and quiet. I cant cope tho I dont understand how this is possible, he has had multiple gfs befrore and lots of friends while I rot and clamp my penis

 

[Bonesbonesbonesbone]

show us his face

 

[ALP]

Psychiatric drugs

like what?

 

[Deleted member 23218]

show us his face

No because he is a good friend and I don't want his face here, but I will describe some failos, very bad acne scars, spiky flat asian hair, flat maxilla, weak bones in general, typical asian failos

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

Im starting ritalin anything else that can help me have less cortisol and anxiety when forced to speak to people I dont know. I am scared of talking to new people and very akward and quiet

Were you prescribed Ritalin? That's for ADHD. Prozac can really help with social anxiety, overthinking, OCD, BDD, depression etc. but you need a prescription.

I felt so carefree and serene back when I took it. Found it easier to socialize and make friends. Didn't overthink about looks or this or that. When I hopped off I realized how it made me such a normie. Non prozac me is blackpilled, obsessive, and much harder working, which is better for self-improvement. I don't want an average life. One day if I am content with what I have achieved I'll hop back on. It literally is the matrix's blue pill for me.

 

[Deleted member 23218]

Were you prescribed Ritalin? That's for ADHD. Prozac can really help with social anxiety, overthinking, OCD, BDD, depression etc. but you need a prescription.

I felt so carefree and serene back when I took it. Found it easier to socialize and make friends. Didn't overthink about looks or this or that. When I hopped off I realized how it made me such a normie. Non prozac me is blackpilled, obsessive, and much harder working, which is better for self-improvement. I don't want an average life. One day if I am content with what I have achieved I'll hop back on. It literally is the matrix's blue pill for me.

I have adhd yea, I dont take it usually because it interrupts sleep schedule alot. I can try to get prozac. Igenerally do analyze social sitations alot makes me slow and akward trying to process what I do and I have anxiety maybe I can try this

 

[rand anon]

My friend who would be rated truecel got a gf who he has had sex with. I saw pics she is a white ltb, my friend is 5'7 truecel SEA but he is giga nt and social circle maxxed. Brutal tbh, he says I need "rizz" and doesn't understand how I don't have gf just cuz above average height (over 6'2 with my one inch lifts) and my vinnie the faggot hair. What he doesent undertsnad is that I am curry (even if lightskin and being half paki decreases the failo) and also MTN at best. Over for non nt cels I cant cope tbh all I can do is keep looksmaxxing

Tagging NT Pill experts @Artemis

If u get to HTN u can pull through old, especially with ur height

 

[Deleted member 7725]

cuz u dont rizz no bitches and got no swag bruh...

 

[Deleted member 16501]

My friend who would be rated truecel got a gf who he has had sex with. I saw pics she is a white ltb, my friend is 5'7 truecel SEA but he is giga nt and social circle maxxed. Brutal tbh, he says I need "rizz" and doesn't understand how I don't have gf just cuz above average height (over 6'2 with my one inch lifts) and my vinnie the faggot hair. What he doesent undertsnad is that I am curry (even if lightskin and being half paki decreases the failo) and also MTN at best. Over for non nt cels I cant cope tbh all I can do is keep looksmaxxing

Tagging NT Pill experts @Artemis

'what he doesn't understand'

u are higher looks smv than him. SEA is lower than curry

you also heightmog him

autism is your issue

 

[Deleted member 23218]

If u get to HTN u can pull through old, especially with ur height

Facially, I am capped at mtn for now unless I look better a bit leaner, use tret for longer and get bb cream maxxed, and makeupmaxxed. I am gonna try thumbpulling and perhaps bonesmashing ( I have seen improvements from mew jutting in the past few months). I need a genio and chin wing, that will probably ascend me but I cant get that rn (Im 19 and parents wont let me). Gonna maybe roid later, Ill probably try old in a year or two, if not Ill rot until I hardmaxx

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

like what?

SSRIs

 

[Deleted member 23218]

'what he doesn't understand'

u are higher looks smv than him. SEA is lower than curry

you also heightmog him

autism is your issue

I dont like talking to new people and women (especially) it spikes my cortisol. I will just looksmax and studycel, its all i can do

 

[longjohnmong]

SSRIs

In my experience they take a bit of the edge off but nowhere near enough to be normie. I've been on even stronger shit, Nardil - the "gold standard" for social anxiety. Even that wasn't great, although it is a superb anti-depressant.

 

[rand anon]

Ill probably try old in a year or two, if not Ill rot until I hardmaxx

I'd suggest trying it now to know where u stand, better to get some experience (asides from whales ofc) than rot

 

[Deleted member 23218]

In my experience they take a bit of the edge off but nowhere near enough to be normie. I've been on even stronger shit, Nardil - the "gold standard" for social anxiety. Even that wasn't great, although it is a superb anti-depressant.

What do you think of lyrica

 

[Deleted member 23218]

I'd suggest trying it now to know where u stand, better to get some experience (asides from whales ofc) than rot

Maybe in 6 months I will be mostly softmaxxes and only have long term softmaxxes (gym, penis, phenomaxxing) to deal with. I will try to use photoshop to get nt photos, I havent taken any in any while and have no social media jfl. Ill probabky escortmaxx to lose virginity tbh

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

In my experience they take a bit of the edge off but nowhere near enough to be normie. I've been on even stronger shit, Nardil - the "gold standard" for social anxiety. Even that wasn't great, although it is a superb anti-depressant.

High or low dosage? Nardil is MAOI not SSRI so am not familiar with it but sure might be stronger. I remember low dose Prozac really chilling me out but maybe that's just me. I actually miss those days I was quite happy on that drug. I think I could live a legit NT life on that shit.

I also found that I've largely grown out of my social anxiety. I think natural maturation and exposure therapy help.

Not trying to sound like a copium addict but I do think there are ways to overcome social anxiety / overthinking. A lot of people manage it.

ALSO, I recommend some supplements. Ashwagandha, Panax Ginseng, Theanine can be helpful. Meditating too.

 

[rand anon]

I will try to use photoshop to get nt photos

Don't need NT photos on OLD if ur htn to get dates. Slays will be harder though. The real test, as a non NT is, if u can actually get through a date. My first and only one paralyzed me jfl, absolutely over

 

[Jigen]

Maybe in 6 months I will be mostly softmaxxes and only have long term softmaxxes (gym, penis, phenomaxxing) to deal with. I will try to use photoshop to get nt photos, I havent taken any in any while and have no social media jfl. Ill probabky escortmaxx to lose virginity tbh

There’s no such thing as soft maxxing for penis jfl. That’s harder to fraud and alter than height.

 

[Deleted member 23218]

There’s no such thing as soft maxxing for penis jfl. That’s harder to fraud and alter than height.

I clamp and do PE, it helps Ive gained length before but want girth.

Don't need NT photos on OLD if ur htn to get dates. Slays will be harder though. The real test, as a non NT is, if u can actually get through a date. My first and only one paralyzed me jfl, absolutely over

Idk if I can reach htn, have you done it yet? Ill try and fraud my way there (light brown color contacts maybe jfl). I will defneitely not gonna be able to get past a date anyways. WHat have you been doing for looksmaxxing?

 

[longjohnmong]

What do you think of lyrica

i've never tried it, but it's similar to phenibut, which is good. it's not so good that you can like go up to strangers and start talking to them without any anxiety (at least not for me, but my social anxiety is severe), but it's good for easier social interactions and it would probably make you get comfortable faster and it definitely stimulates your desire to talk and stuff.

 

[longjohnmong]

Don't need NT photos on OLD if ur htn to get dates. Slays will be harder though. The real test, as a non NT is, if u can actually get through a date. My first and only one paralyzed me jfl, absolutely over

don't ever go on a date without alcohol being involved

 

[Deleted member 23218]

i've never tried it, but it's similar phenibut, which is good. it's not so good that you can like go up to strangers and start talking to them without any anxiety (at least not for me, but my social anxiety is severe), but it's good for easier social interactions and it would probably make you get comfortable more faster and it definitely stimulates your desire to talk and stuff.

I will ask my provider

 

[rand anon]

Idk if I can reach htn, have you done it yet?

I think so

WHat have you been doing for looksmaxxing?

Just leanmaxxing, skincaremaxxing, hairmaxxing (fixing my curls). I'm around 15% bf rn, or 118lbs

I will defneitely not gonna be able to get past a date anyways.

If u lower ur standards u might be able to

don't ever go on a date without alcohol being involved

I prob should've done that, too late now. I will forever hve ptsd from it

 

[Repentsinner]

NT can make or break normies if an incel ascended by being NT that's just one and a hundred chance and all the evidence we have for that is anecdotal nobody has ever given actual evidence for NT being a thing by talking to women or messages your just witnessing a one off

 

[longjohnmong]

High or low dosage? Nardil is MAOI not SSRI so am not familiar with it but sure might be stronger. I remember low dose Prozac really chilling me out but maybe that's just me. I actually miss those days I was quite happy on that drug. I think I could live a legit NT life on that shit.

I also found that I've largely grown out of my social anxiety. I think natural maturation and exposure therapy help.

Not trying to sound like a copium addict but I do think there are ways to overcome social anxiety / overthinking. A lot of people manage it.

ALSO, I recommend some supplements. Ashwagandha, Panax Ginseng, Theanine can be helpful. Meditating too.

i've been on large doses of numerous SSRIs and SNRIs. my social anxiety is pretty severe. like, i could be 6 beers drunk (i don't drink much, so that's a lot for me) and still be not able to function socially.

it feels out of my control because as soon as i'm out of the social situation i'm back to normal. like i'm not afraid of social situations before i'm in them. and it doesn't seem to respond to exposure because i could see the same person on a weekly basis and still never feel comfortable around them. exposure therapy kind of depends on the exposure actually being not as bad as you imagined it to be in order for your brain to adjust anxiety levels, whereas in my experience, shit is always worse than i think it's going to be.

i'm on wellbutrin and effexor right now, and wellbutrin actually blocks the metabolism of effexor so it increases the amount of effexor you get. it's not bad. like, my social anxiety is so bad i'll be weird around my childhood friend, my best friend. but i saw him the other day after years of not seeing him and it was much more normal than usual. but i'm still far from being normal out and about.

 

[rand anon]

NT can make or break normies if an incel ascended by being NT that's just one and a hundred chance and all the evidence we have for that is anecdotal nobody has ever given actual evidence for NT being a thing by talking to women or messages your just witnessing a one off

If u can successfully get first dates but can never make it past them, then being non NT is likely the issue

 

[longjohnmong]

I prob should've done that, too late now. I will forever hve ptsd from it

Back in the glory days of OkCupid, I matched with a former Calvin Klein Model, and I was like texting her about fucking her. She had me buy condoms before I came over. And within like 5 minutes, my autism ruined everything for me. She was way past her Calvin Klein prime though.

 

[Deleted member 23218]

I think so

Just leanmaxxing, skincaremaxxing, hairmaxxing (fixing my curls). I'm around 15% bf rn, or 118lbs

If u lower ur standards u might be able to

I prob should've done that, too late now. I will forever hve ptsd from it

I need to leanmaxx a bit more to 12 im at a 15 but and bulking for now but will lean down in a few months. I dont really want to try to put in effort to get a date rn tho cuz Im hyperfocused on looksmaxxing. I wanna try irl but idk how, that would probably be easier for me bc height halo is actually useful then unlike old but its too hard

 

[rand anon]

I dont really want to try to put in effort to get a date rn tho cuz Im hyperfocused on looksmaxxing,

Whatever works for you ofc, but atleast in my case, I just can't solely focus on looksmaxxing like that. By the time I get my surgeries (rhino and genio) atleast 2yrs will hve past.

I need to leanmaxx a bit more to 12 im at a bit below 15 but and bulking for now but will lean down in a few months.

Mirin, I wanna get down to 12 too but I barely eat anything as it is. I need to pack on more muscle if I wanna reduce my bf now

 

[Deleted member 23218]

Whatever works for you ofc, but atleast in my case, I just can't solely focus on looksmaxxing like that. By the time I get my surgeries (rhino and genio) atleast 2yrs will hve past.


Mirin, I wanna get down to 12 too but I barely eat anything as it is. I need to pack on more muscle if I wanna reduce my bf now

It suxks but I gotta bulk, but I put on muscle pretty quick tho, some people I now told me my arms looked bigger even though Ive been lifting for like 3 weeks. I wanna be supper lean brah

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

i've been on large doses of numerous SSRIs and SNRIs. my social anxiety is pretty severe. like, i could be 6 beers drunk (i don't drink much, so that's a lot for me) and still be not able to function socially.

it feels out of my control because as soon as i'm out of the social situation i'm back to normal. like i'm not afraid of social situations before i'm in them. and it doesn't seem to respond to exposure because i could see the same person on a weekly basis and still never feel comfortable around them. exposure therapy kind of depends on the exposure actually being not as bad as you imagined it to be in order for your brain to adjust anxiety levels, whereas in my experience, shit is always worse than i think it's going to be.

i'm on wellbutrin and effexor right now, and wellbutrin actually blocks the metabolism of effexor so it increases the amount of effexor you get. it's not bad. like, my social anxiety is so bad i'll be weird around my childhood friend, my best friend. but i saw him the other day after years of not seeing him and it was much more normal than usual. but i'm still far from being normal out and about.

That sounds brutal and am not qualified to recommend anything. I guess you need to find a good psychiatrist who can help you sort this out.

 

[Artemis]

My friend who would be rated truecel got a gf who he has had sex with. I saw pics she is a white ltb, my friend is 5'7 truecel SEA but he is giga nt and social circle maxxed. Brutal tbh, he says I need "rizz" and doesn't understand how I don't have gf just cuz above average height (over 6'2 with my one inch lifts) and my vinnie the faggot hair. What he doesent undertsnad is that I am curry (even if lightskin and being half paki decreases the failo) and also MTN at best. Over for non nt cels I cant cope tbh all I can do is keep looksmaxxing

Tagging NT Pill experts @Artemis

Looks and NT work together. You need both. Depending on the country, being a 5'7 SEA-truecel, this might have been his last LTB girlfriend, and he would need to dive sub-4 for the next one. Small height is the worst you can have if you live in some tall country. So, you should be grateful you are 6'1 non-NT vs visa-versa.

As for your brain, you just need to stop looksmaxxing and start living your life. NT is like driving a car. You need active communication with people to learn the skill. Despite you tagging me, i am not NT myself, i just low-inhib, and know how to act in certain situations. I learned this from experience when i was 14-21 years old.

You should be fine eventually. Just don't get fat while NT-maxxing. I think theoretically you should be way more successful than your 5'7 friend women-wise, unless you are missing out sth from your story.

Also dont forget about LUCK. This plays a big role too. Most NT people are successful with girls becaise they HAVE CHANCES, through hteir social circles. Even if their success rate abysmal (constant rejection), they will still land a 1/100 girl. If you rot at home, you maybe have a success rate of 1/10. But you haev only 1 chance per year you know... you see where im going?

Good luck!

 

[Jigen]

I clamp and do PE, it helps Ive gained length before but want girth.

Idk if I can reach htn, have you done it yet? Ill try and fraud my way there (light brown color contacts maybe jfl). I will defneitely not gonna be able to get past a date anyways. WHat have you been doing for looksmaxxing?

I clamp and do PE, it helps Ive gained length before but want girth.

Was the gains after puberty?

 

[Deleted member 23218]

Looks and NT work together. You need both. Depending on the country, being a 5'7 SEA-truecel, this might have been his last LTB girlfriend, and he would need to dive sub-4 for the next one. Small height is the worst you can have if you live in some tall country. So, you should be grateful you are 6'1 non-NT vs visa-versa.

As for your brain, you just need to stop looksmaxxing and start living your life. NT is like driving a car. You need active communication with people to learn the skill. Despite you tagging me, i am not NT myself, i just low-inhib, and know how to act in certain situations. I learned this from experience when i was 14-21 years old.

You should be fine eventually. Just don't get fat while NT-maxxing. I think theoretically you should be way more successful than your 5'7 friend women-wise, unless you are missing out sth from your story.

Also dont forget about LUCK. This plays a big role too. Most NT people are successful with girls becaise they HAVE CHANCES, through hteir social circles. Even if their success rate abysmal (constant rejection), they will still land a 1/100 girl. If you rot at home, you maybe have a success rate of 1/10. But you haev only 1 chance per year you know... you see where im going?

Good luck!

I will try to balance while looksmaxxing (I live in US by the way) with attempting to do social life. It doesn't take that long, I mostly rot anyways. Im gonna join a club and start with drugs to make me more low inhib

I clamp and do PE, it helps Ive gained length before but want girth.

Was the gains after puberty?

Yea at 19. I didnt really grow much taller during that time but my penis cuckly gaines like .6 inches over a few months. I lost the some of gains when I stopped and gained them back after I restarted. Rn i do clamping and I do erect ligament stretches for my penis bc the ligs are to tight and a lot of positions will hurt as a result. I gained my lengths back this way and think I will gain more as my erection angle is super tight (12 o clock when standing).