Brutal story

[Purecel]

To start, i’m a factually a LHTN/MHTN also being 6 feet tall. I started talking to this girl back in mid June and have been going about 3 dates a month until around late August where I asked her to be my gf in which she said yes. She is factually a Stacylite, think of Gio Scottii without the coloring. Christmas Eve is tomorrow, and throughout all this time we haven’t even kissed. She’s a very value grounded/religious girl; she doesn’t drink, smoke, follow other guys on social media platforms, etc. I just finished hanging out with her for the last time since I’m going to be going on a trip on Christmas. I’ve talked to her about her not showing her emotions and being romantic two times now and they have both led to nothing. I’ve been objectively a very good boyfriend, I’ve held her in my hands during tough times, i’ve got her flowers numerous times, I’ve took her on expensive dates, yet I can’t even get a kiss? Realistically, this wouldn’t be happening if I was a Chad, she would be the one paying for dates, she would be the one getting me gifts, she would be the one wanting to kiss me. What I initially thought after thinking about my situation is that looks is a short term factor that helps you through first dates, meeting new people, etc, and that personality is the driving factor for the long-term, but I was wrong. Her personality would be totally different. If I was, Chad, she wouldn’t be as hesitant, as skeptical as leery as she is. She would be able to open up to me, be with me, and kiss me without thinking nor hesitating. It’s just so brutal because in these six months, I’ve done absolutely everything I could, yet to what avail? Don’t get me wrong, she’s a very caring person and being with a girl like her is rare, but it doesn’t even feel like an actual relationship, it feels like we’re close friends, which destroys me day by day. At this point, I feel like giving up on it because I don’t know how much more I can give without receiving anything, all of this because I am a HTN. I never thought having a gf would be so platonic, I just don’t know what else to do atp, I already talked to her about it multiple times as I said and nothing has changed, and now that’s I’m going on a trip for 10 days it’s going to be even more distant when I come back. I’ve already met her family and she just gave me my Christmas gift which was a silver chain and a card before I left. The card said something like, “I know I can’t express my emotions to you that well but I truly love you”. But does she really? It doesn’t feel like it.

 

[cash.org]

word sandwich

 

[StyIix]

To start, i’m a factually a LHTN/MHTN also being 6 feet tall. I started talking to this girl back in mid June and have been going about 3 dates a month until around late August where I asked her to be my gf in which she said yes. She is factually a Stacylite, think of Gio Scottii without the coloring. Christmas Eve is tomorrow, and throughout all this time we haven’t even kissed. She’s a very value grounded/religious girl; she doesn’t drink, smoke, follow other guys on social media platforms, etc. I just finished hanging out with her for the last time since I’m going to be going on a trip on Christmas. I’ve talked to her about her not showing her emotions and being romantic two times now and they have both led to nothing. I’ve been objectively a very good boyfriend, I’ve held her in my hands during tough times, i’ve got her flowers numerous times, I’ve took her on expensive dates, yet I can’t even get a kiss? Realistically, this wouldn’t be happening if I was a Chad, she would be the one paying for dates, she would be the one getting me gifts, she would be the one wanting to kiss me. What I initially thought after thinking about my situation is that looks is a short term factor that helps you through first dates, meeting new people, etc, and that personality is the driving factor for the long-term, but I was wrong. Her personality would be totally different. If I was, Chad, she wouldn’t be as hesitant, as skeptical as leery as she is. She would be able to open up to me, be with me, and kiss me without thinking nor hesitating. It’s just so brutal because in these six months, I’ve done absolutely everything I could, yet to what avail? Don’t get me wrong, she’s a very caring person and being with a girl like her is rare, but it doesn’t even feel like an actual relationship, it feels like we’re close friends, which destroys me day by day. At this point, I feel like giving up on it because I don’t know how much more I can give without receiving anything, all of this because I am a HTN. I never thought having a gf would be so platonic, I just don’t know what else to do atp, I already talked to her about it multiple times as I said and nothing has changed, and now that’s I’m going on a trip for 10 days it’s going to be even more distant when I come back. I’ve already met her family and she just gave me my Christmas gift which was a silver chain and a card before I left. The card said something like, “I know I can’t express my emotions to you that well but I truly love you”. But does she really? It doesn’t feel like it.

DNR

 

[Purecel]

word sandwich

?

 

[Anamnesis]

dnr

 

[subhum4n7]

To start, i’m a factually a LHTN/MHTN also being 6 feet tall. I started talking to this girl back in mid June and have been going about 3 dates a month until around late August where I asked her to be my gf in which she said yes. She is factually a Stacylite, think of Gio Scottii without the coloring. Christmas Eve is tomorrow, and throughout all this time we haven’t even kissed. She’s a very value grounded/religious girl; she doesn’t drink, smoke, follow other guys on social media platforms, etc. I just finished hanging out with her for the last time since I’m going to be going on a trip on Christmas. I’ve talked to her about her not showing her emotions and being romantic two times now and they have both led to nothing. I’ve been objectively a very good boyfriend, I’ve held her in my hands during tough times, i’ve got her flowers numerous times, I’ve took her on expensive dates, yet I can’t even get a kiss? Realistically, this wouldn’t be happening if I was a Chad, she would be the one paying for dates, she would be the one getting me gifts, she would be the one wanting to kiss me. What I initially thought after thinking about my situation is that looks is a short term factor that helps you through first dates, meeting new people, etc, and that personality is the driving factor for the long-term, but I was wrong. Her personality would be totally different. If I was, Chad, she wouldn’t be as hesitant, as skeptical as leery as she is. She would be able to open up to me, be with me, and kiss me without thinking nor hesitating. It’s just so brutal because in these six months, I’ve done absolutely everything I could, yet to what avail? Don’t get me wrong, she’s a very caring person and being with a girl like her is rare, but it doesn’t even feel like an actual relationship, it feels like we’re close friends, which destroys me day by day. At this point, I feel like giving up on it because I don’t know how much more I can give without receiving anything, all of this because I am a HTN. I never thought having a gf would be so platonic, I just don’t know what else to do atp, I already talked to her about it multiple times as I said and nothing has changed, and now that’s I’m going on a trip for 10 days it’s going to be even more distant when I come back. I’ve already met her family and she just gave me my Christmas gift which was a silver chain and a card before I left. The card said something like, “I know I can’t express my emotions to you that well but I truly love you”. But does she really? It doesn’t feel like it.

dnr

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

To start, i’m a factually a LHTN/MHTN also being 6 feet tall. I started talking to this girl back in mid June and have been going about 3 dates a month until around late August where I asked her to be my gf in which she said yes. She is factually a Stacylite, think of Gio Scottii without the coloring. Christmas Eve is tomorrow, and throughout all this time we haven’t even kissed. She’s a very value grounded/religious girl; she doesn’t drink, smoke, follow other guys on social media platforms, etc. I just finished hanging out with her for the last time since I’m going to be going on a trip on Christmas. I’ve talked to her about her not showing her emotions and being romantic two times now and they have both led to nothing. I’ve been objectively a very good boyfriend, I’ve held her in my hands during tough times, i’ve got her flowers numerous times, I’ve took her on expensive dates, yet I can’t even get a kiss? Realistically, this wouldn’t be happening if I was a Chad, she would be the one paying for dates, she would be the one getting me gifts, she would be the one wanting to kiss me. What I initially thought after thinking about my situation is that looks is a short term factor that helps you through first dates, meeting new people, etc, and that personality is the driving factor for the long-term, but I was wrong. Her personality would be totally different. If I was, Chad, she wouldn’t be as hesitant, as skeptical as leery as she is. She would be able to open up to me, be with me, and kiss me without thinking nor hesitating. It’s just so brutal because in these six months, I’ve done absolutely everything I could, yet to what avail? Don’t get me wrong, she’s a very caring person and being with a girl like her is rare, but it doesn’t even feel like an actual relationship, it feels like we’re close friends, which destroys me day by day. At this point, I feel like giving up on it because I don’t know how much more I can give without receiving anything, all of this because I am a HTN. I never thought having a gf would be so platonic, I just don’t know what else to do atp, I already talked to her about it multiple times as I said and nothing has changed, and now that’s I’m going on a trip for 10 days it’s going to be even more distant when I come back. I’ve already met her family and she just gave me my Christmas gift which was a silver chain and a card before I left. The card said something like, “I know I can’t express my emotions to you that well but I truly love you”. But does she really? It doesn’t feel like it.

DID read, idk bro ur a hypergamous fuck now its your fault shouldve been with your looksmatch

 

[Ch1gga]

DNRD because I'm too lazy to, here's a thumbs up though .

 

[deathwatch]

To start, i’m a factually a LHTN/MHTN also being 6 feet tall. I started talking to this girl back in mid June and have been going about 3 dates a month until around late August where I asked her to be my gf in which she said yes. She is factually a Stacylite, think of Gio Scottii without the coloring. Christmas Eve is tomorrow, and throughout all this time we haven’t even kissed. She’s a very value grounded/religious girl; she doesn’t drink, smoke, follow other guys on social media platforms, etc. I just finished hanging out with her for the last time since I’m going to be going on a trip on Christmas. I’ve talked to her about her not showing her emotions and being romantic two times now and they have both led to nothing. I’ve been objectively a very good boyfriend, I’ve held her in my hands during tough times, i’ve got her flowers numerous times, I’ve took her on expensive dates, yet I can’t even get a kiss? Realistically, this wouldn’t be happening if I was a Chad, she would be the one paying for dates, she would be the one getting me gifts, she would be the one wanting to kiss me. What I initially thought after thinking about my situation is that looks is a short term factor that helps you through first dates, meeting new people, etc, and that personality is the driving factor for the long-term, but I was wrong. Her personality would be totally different. If I was, Chad, she wouldn’t be as hesitant, as skeptical as leery as she is. She would be able to open up to me, be with me, and kiss me without thinking nor hesitating. It’s just so brutal because in these six months, I’ve done absolutely everything I could, yet to what avail? Don’t get me wrong, she’s a very caring person and being with a girl like her is rare, but it doesn’t even feel like an actual relationship, it feels like we’re close friends, which destroys me day by day. At this point, I feel like giving up on it because I don’t know how much more I can give without receiving anything, all of this because I am a HTN. I never thought having a gf would be so platonic, I just don’t know what else to do atp, I already talked to her about it multiple times as I said and nothing has changed, and now that’s I’m going on a trip for 10 days it’s going to be even more distant when I come back. I’ve already met her family and she just gave me my Christmas gift which was a silver chain and a card before I left. The card said something like, “I know I can’t express my emotions to you that well but I truly love you”. But does she really? It doesn’t feel like it.

I would say give her some time. Do you guys share interests? Do you guys talk as often? Do you even see her having qualities of a good girlfriend? Also, its okay to take your time in relationships. Dont rush it because itll just be pure garbage if you do so. Give this relationship some time, maybe two more years or a year, things will change. Just dont stress it or stress her out either. Not everythings going to be intimate either. Shes not going anywhere, be loyal and do not give up.

 

[ChioMaxiMix2025]

dont push her if she doesnt want to but in the same time just talk to other women and live your life and have sex

 

[LtnSlayer666]

To start, i’m a factually a LHTN/MHTN also being 6 feet tall. I started talking to this girl back in mid June and have been going about 3 dates a month until around late August where I asked her to be my gf in which she said yes. She is factually a Stacylite, think of Gio Scottii without the coloring. Christmas Eve is tomorrow, and throughout all this time we haven’t even kissed. She’s a very value grounded/religious girl; she doesn’t drink, smoke, follow other guys on social media platforms, etc. I just finished hanging out with her for the last time since I’m going to be going on a trip on Christmas. I’ve talked to her about her not showing her emotions and being romantic two times now and they have both led to nothing. I’ve been objectively a very good boyfriend, I’ve held her in my hands during tough times, i’ve got her flowers numerous times, I’ve took her on expensive dates, yet I can’t even get a kiss? Realistically, this wouldn’t be happening if I was a Chad, she would be the one paying for dates, she would be the one getting me gifts, she would be the one wanting to kiss me. What I initially thought after thinking about my situation is that looks is a short term factor that helps you through first dates, meeting new people, etc, and that personality is the driving factor for the long-term, but I was wrong. Her personality would be totally different. If I was, Chad, she wouldn’t be as hesitant, as skeptical as leery as she is. She would be able to open up to me, be with me, and kiss me without thinking nor hesitating. It’s just so brutal because in these six months, I’ve done absolutely everything I could, yet to what avail? Don’t get me wrong, she’s a very caring person and being with a girl like her is rare, but it doesn’t even feel like an actual relationship, it feels like we’re close friends, which destroys me day by day. At this point, I feel like giving up on it because I don’t know how much more I can give without receiving anything, all of this because I am a HTN. I never thought having a gf would be so platonic, I just don’t know what else to do atp, I already talked to her about it multiple times as I said and nothing has changed, and now that’s I’m going on a trip for 10 days it’s going to be even more distant when I come back. I’ve already met her family and she just gave me my Christmas gift which was a silver chain and a card before I left. The card said something like, “I know I can’t express my emotions to you that well but I truly love you”. But does she really? It doesn’t feel like it.

if you are htn why are you stressing?, go around fuck some hoes and enjoy life. but if you truly love that girl idk.

 

[Trail4]

move on

 

[Deleted member 300599]

To start, i’m a factually a LHTN/MHTN also being 6 feet tall. I started talking to this girl back in mid June and have been going about 3 dates a month until around late August where I asked her to be my gf in which she said yes. She is factually a Stacylite, think of Gio Scottii without the coloring. Christmas Eve is tomorrow, and throughout all this time we haven’t even kissed. She’s a very value grounded/religious girl; she doesn’t drink, smoke, follow other guys on social media platforms, etc. I just finished hanging out with her for the last time since I’m going to be going on a trip on Christmas. I’ve talked to her about her not showing her emotions and being romantic two times now and they have both led to nothing. I’ve been objectively a very good boyfriend, I’ve held her in my hands during tough times, i’ve got her flowers numerous times, I’ve took her on expensive dates, yet I can’t even get a kiss? Realistically, this wouldn’t be happening if I was a Chad, she would be the one paying for dates, she would be the one getting me gifts, she would be the one wanting to kiss me. What I initially thought after thinking about my situation is that looks is a short term factor that helps you through first dates, meeting new people, etc, and that personality is the driving factor for the long-term, but I was wrong. Her personality would be totally different. If I was, Chad, she wouldn’t be as hesitant, as skeptical as leery as she is. She would be able to open up to me, be with me, and kiss me without thinking nor hesitating. It’s just so brutal because in these six months, I’ve done absolutely everything I could, yet to what avail? Don’t get me wrong, she’s a very caring person and being with a girl like her is rare, but it doesn’t even feel like an actual relationship, it feels like we’re close friends, which destroys me day by day. At this point, I feel like giving up on it because I don’t know how much more I can give without receiving anything, all of this because I am a HTN. I never thought having a gf would be so platonic, I just don’t know what else to do atp, I already talked to her about it multiple times as I said and nothing has changed, and now that’s I’m going on a trip for 10 days it’s going to be even more distant when I come back. I’ve already met her family and she just gave me my Christmas gift which was a silver chain and a card before I left. The card said something like, “I know I can’t express my emotions to you that well but I truly love you”. But does she really? It doesn’t feel like it.

Maybe she wants you to like take charge and kiss her without looking like an loser asking for it before???
She's not gonna ask it and seem like an loser too so you gotta take it in your own hands dude

 

[Purecel]

I would say give her some time. Do you guys share interests? Do you guys talk as often? Do you even see her having qualities of a good girlfriend? Also, its okay to take your time in relationships. Dont rush it because itll just be pure garbage if you do so. Give this relationship some time, maybe two more years or a year, things will change. Just dont stress it or stress her out either. Not everythings going to be intimate either. Shes not going anywhere, be loyal and do not give up.

Thanks bro and yea I’ll give it some more time to see what happens, we share a lot in common I met her in orchestra since we were both in the same class and she’s a very sweet girl.

 

[Purecel]

dont push her if she doesnt want to but in the same time just talk to other women and live your life and have sex

But like come on girl I’m your boyfriend just kiss me already

 

[Purecel]

if you are htn why are you stressing?, go around fuck some hoes and enjoy life. but if you truly love that girl idk.

Bro I’m stressing cause I want HER to be the one I fuck not some random whore I’ll never see again, but enough about fucking she hasn’t even kissed me yet

 

[Purecel]

Maybe she wants you to like take charge and kiss her without looking like an loser asking for it before???
She's not gonna ask it and seem like an loser too so you gotta take it in your own hands dude

Alr I just expected to finally be a victim for once, but I guess I gotta be the dominant God I was meant to be

 

[Deleted member 300599]

Alr I just expected to finally be a victim for once, but I guess I gotta be the dominant God I was meant to be

Go get em tiger

 

[follicel]

To start, i’m a factually a LHTN/MHTN also being 6 feet tall. I started talking to this girl back in mid June and have been going about 3 dates a month until around late August where I asked her to be my gf in which she said yes. She is factually a Stacylite, think of Gio Scottii without the coloring. Christmas Eve is tomorrow, and throughout all this time we haven’t even kissed. She’s a very value grounded/religious girl; she doesn’t drink, smoke, follow other guys on social media platforms, etc. I just finished hanging out with her for the last time since I’m going to be going on a trip on Christmas. I’ve talked to her about her not showing her emotions and being romantic two times now and they have both led to nothing. I’ve been objectively a very good boyfriend, I’ve held her in my hands during tough times, i’ve got her flowers numerous times, I’ve took her on expensive dates, yet I can’t even get a kiss? Realistically, this wouldn’t be happening if I was a Chad, she would be the one paying for dates, she would be the one getting me gifts, she would be the one wanting to kiss me. What I initially thought after thinking about my situation is that looks is a short term factor that helps you through first dates, meeting new people, etc, and that personality is the driving factor for the long-term, but I was wrong. Her personality would be totally different. If I was, Chad, she wouldn’t be as hesitant, as skeptical as leery as she is. She would be able to open up to me, be with me, and kiss me without thinking nor hesitating. It’s just so brutal because in these six months, I’ve done absolutely everything I could, yet to what avail? Don’t get me wrong, she’s a very caring person and being with a girl like her is rare, but it doesn’t even feel like an actual relationship, it feels like we’re close friends, which destroys me day by day. At this point, I feel like giving up on it because I don’t know how much more I can give without receiving anything, all of this because I am a HTN. I never thought having a gf would be so platonic, I just don’t know what else to do atp, I already talked to her about it multiple times as I said and nothing has changed, and now that’s I’m going on a trip for 10 days it’s going to be even more distant when I come back. I’ve already met her family and she just gave me my Christmas gift which was a silver chain and a card before I left. The card said something like, “I know I can’t express my emotions to you that well but I truly love you”. But does she really? It doesn’t feel like it.

skimmed through this IF she's avoidant and you feel disrespected in the relationship then it's all just cope

 

[Purecel]

DID read, idk bro ur a hypergamous fuck now its your fault shouldve been with your looksmatch

I think bro is mad that I stole one of the best while he’s with his LTB whore gf

 

[Purecel]

skimmed through this IF she's avoidant and you feel disrespected in the relationship then it's all just cope

What does this even mean dude

 

[Cocaethylene]

To start, i’m a factually a LHTN/MHTN also being 6 feet tall. I started talking to this girl back in mid June and have been going about 3 dates a month until around late August where I asked her to be my gf in which she said yes. She is factually a Stacylite, think of Gio Scottii without the coloring. Christmas Eve is tomorrow, and throughout all this time we haven’t even kissed. She’s a very value grounded/religious girl; she doesn’t drink, smoke, follow other guys on social media platforms, etc. I just finished hanging out with her for the last time since I’m going to be going on a trip on Christmas. I’ve talked to her about her not showing her emotions and being romantic two times now and they have both led to nothing. I’ve been objectively a very good boyfriend, I’ve held her in my hands during tough times, i’ve got her flowers numerous times, I’ve took her on expensive dates, yet I can’t even get a kiss? Realistically, this wouldn’t be happening if I was a Chad, she would be the one paying for dates, she would be the one getting me gifts, she would be the one wanting to kiss me. What I initially thought after thinking about my situation is that looks is a short term factor that helps you through first dates, meeting new people, etc, and that personality is the driving factor for the long-term, but I was wrong. Her personality would be totally different. If I was, Chad, she wouldn’t be as hesitant, as skeptical as leery as she is. She would be able to open up to me, be with me, and kiss me without thinking nor hesitating. It’s just so brutal because in these six months, I’ve done absolutely everything I could, yet to what avail? Don’t get me wrong, she’s a very caring person and being with a girl like her is rare, but it doesn’t even feel like an actual relationship, it feels like we’re close friends, which destroys me day by day. At this point, I feel like giving up on it because I don’t know how much more I can give without receiving anything, all of this because I am a HTN. I never thought having a gf would be so platonic, I just don’t know what else to do atp, I already talked to her about it multiple times as I said and nothing has changed, and now that’s I’m going on a trip for 10 days it’s going to be even more distant when I come back. I’ve already met her family and she just gave me my Christmas gift which was a silver chain and a card before I left. The card said something like, “I know I can’t express my emotions to you that well but I truly love you”. But does she really? It doesn’t feel like it.

You probably just a faggot bro

 

[follicel]

What does this even mean dude

the entire relationship is cope you crave intimacy so badly from a girl who would not give you it, keep waiting maybe soon la bro bro haha

 

[Cocaethylene]

But like come on girl I’m your boyfriend just kiss me already

She probably is waiting for you to make the first move. It’s your fucking girl, nigga—kiss her already. She is probably telling her friends that you’re a bitch who can’t kiss his own girl.

 

[Purecel]

She probably is waiting for you to make the first move. It’s your fucking girl, nigga—kiss her already. She is probably telling her friends that you’re a bitch who can’t kiss his own girl.

Holy fucking shit your right wtf am I doing with my bitch ass, I’m going to fucking rape and kill my fucking wanna be considerate self

 

[Purecel]

the entire relationship is cope you crave intimacy so badly from a girl who would not give you it, keep waiting maybe soon la bro bro haha

Keep waiting? Nah ima just kiss her atp and if she files for SA I’m killing myself

 

[follicel]

Keep waiting? Nah ima just kiss her atp and if she files for SA I’m killing myself

yeah clearly ur a cope fag, kiss her and if she doesn't like it move on kid

 

[Cocaethylene]

Holy fucking shit your right wtf am I doing with my bitch ass, I’m going to fucking rape and kill my fucking wanna be considerate self

You’re just a little bitch, bro. I fuck on the first time I meet a girl, nigga—the first ever time I meet her. Not saying that as a flex, but grow a pair, get out of your head, and fucking kiss her, you little bitch. If she won’t kiss you after six months, bro, end it. Has she kissed anyone else before? If so, just rope.

 

[Purecel]

yeah clearly ur a cope fag, kiss her and if she doesn't like it move on kid

How tf is that a cope idk if you know what cope means atp and yea that’s what I’m going to do

 

[Cocaethylene]

Holy fucking shit your right wtf am I doing with my bitch ass, I’m going to fucking rape and kill my fucking wanna be considerate self

How tf is that a cope idk if you know what cope means atp and yea that’s what I’m going to do

I think you just a incel with no experience around women, this should NOT be a problem lol.

 

[Purecel]

You’re just a little bitch, bro. I fuck on the first time I meet a girl, nigga—the first ever time I meet her. Not saying that as a flex, but grow a pair, get out of your head, and fucking kiss her, you little bitch. If she won’t kiss you after six months, bro, end it. Has she kissed anyone else before? If so, just rope.

No bro she’s a fucking pure angel I’m her first boyfriend and first everything that’s why I was tryna not rush it ykwim? But fuck this dude 6 months is long enough

 

[Purecel]

I think you just a incel with no experience around women, this should NOT be a problem lol.

Well it fucking is and trust me I have many fucking options and rejected a fuckton of girls for this one

 

[follicel]

feels like cope smells like cope sounds like cope to me bud

 

[Cocaethylene]

No bro she’s a fucking pure angel I’m her first boyfriend and first everything that’s why I was tryna not rush it ykwim? But fuck this dude 6 months is long enough

She is obviously too unexperienced to realize there’s anything wrong with what’s happening right now. You just have to take action and fucking kiss her, bro. She has probably been dying for you to kiss her. I mean, dude, if she accepted you as a boyfriend—her first ever boyfriend—you don’t think she would want to fucking kiss you? Stop being a little bitch, get intimate with her, and then lean in for a kiss, bro. If you have experience, you should have already done that before. You shouldn’t ever be waiting for a girl to kiss you like that, man. I mean, come on now—especially your girlfriend.

 

[GrotesqueGhoul]

To start, i’m a factually a LHTN/MHTN also being 6 feet tall. I started talking to this girl back in mid June and have been going about 3 dates a month until around late August where I asked her to be my gf in which she said yes. She is factually a Stacylite, think of Gio Scottii without the coloring. Christmas Eve is tomorrow, and throughout all this time we haven’t even kissed. She’s a very value grounded/religious girl; she doesn’t drink, smoke, follow other guys on social media platforms, etc. I just finished hanging out with her for the last time since I’m going to be going on a trip on Christmas. I’ve talked to her about her not showing her emotions and being romantic two times now and they have both led to nothing. I’ve been objectively a very good boyfriend, I’ve held her in my hands during tough times, i’ve got her flowers numerous times, I’ve took her on expensive dates, yet I can’t even get a kiss? Realistically, this wouldn’t be happening if I was a Chad, she would be the one paying for dates, she would be the one getting me gifts, she would be the one wanting to kiss me. What I initially thought after thinking about my situation is that looks is a short term factor that helps you through first dates, meeting new people, etc, and that personality is the driving factor for the long-term, but I was wrong. Her personality would be totally different. If I was, Chad, she wouldn’t be as hesitant, as skeptical as leery as she is. She would be able to open up to me, be with me, and kiss me without thinking nor hesitating. It’s just so brutal because in these six months, I’ve done absolutely everything I could, yet to what avail? Don’t get me wrong, she’s a very caring person and being with a girl like her is rare, but it doesn’t even feel like an actual relationship, it feels like we’re close friends, which destroys me day by day. At this point, I feel like giving up on it because I don’t know how much more I can give without receiving anything, all of this because I am a HTN. I never thought having a gf would be so platonic, I just don’t know what else to do atp, I already talked to her about it multiple times as I said and nothing has changed, and now that’s I’m going on a trip for 10 days it’s going to be even more distant when I come back. I’ve already met her family and she just gave me my Christmas gift which was a silver chain and a card before I left. The card said something like, “I know I can’t express my emotions to you that well but I truly love you”. But does she really? It doesn’t feel like it.

Reading this gave me intense rage. I’m practically all alone for the holidays.

 

[Cocaethylene]

Well it fucking is and trust me I have many fucking options and rejected a fuckton of girls for this one

Kiss her then update us. The fuck you think gonna happen bro? And if the idea of getting charged with SA even crosses your mind you either got the wrong girl or need to seriously work on yourself man.

 

[Purecel]

She is obviously too stupid to realize there’s anything wrong with what’s happening right now. You just have to take action and fucking kiss her, bro. She has probably been dying for you to kiss her. I mean, dude, if she accepted you as a boyfriend—her first ever boyfriend—you don’t think she would want to fucking kiss you? Stop being a little bitch, get intimate with her, and then lean in for a kiss, bro. If you have experience, you should have already done that before. You shouldn’t ever be waiting for a girl to kiss you like that, man. I mean, come on now—especially your girlfriend.

ALRIGHT BRO I GET IT, ima kiss her next time we chill my bad for trying to be considerate for once and go at her pace. But lowkey not to be an asshole but objectively her IQ is not that high and mine is 146 so I think there’s a different level of emotional realization\need between us. I just gotta dumb it down atp

 

[Purecel]

Reading this gave me intense rage. I’m practically all alone for the holidays.

My bad bro just ask some bitch out trust me stop waiting for “the right moment” because it’s never gonna come

 

[Purecel]

Kiss her then update us. The fuck you think gonna happen bro? And if the idea of getting charged with SA even crosses your mind you either got the wrong girl or need to seriously work on yourself man.

I was joking about the SA thing and I will and ima also follow you bro

 

[Cocaethylene]

ALRIGHT BRO I GET IT, ima kiss her next time we chill my bad for trying to be considerate for once and go at her pace. But lowkey not to be an asshole but objectively her IQ is not that high and mine is 146 so I think there’s a different level of emotional realization\need between us. I just gotta dumb it down atp

Good goy.

 

[Cocaethylene]

I was joking about the SA thing and I will and ima also follow you bro

Thanks g

 

[i cant lie cant lie]

d that I stole one of the best

"i stole one of the best" she literally does not want to have anything intimate but ok bro we all have been there.

No bro she’s a fucking pure angel I’m her first boyfriend and first everything that’s why I was tryna not rush it ykwim? But fuck this dude 6 months is long enough

But Chad wouldn't worry about rushing it.

 

[Purecel]

"i stole one of the best" she literally does not want to have anything intimate but ok bro we all have been there.

But Chad wouldn't worry about rushing it.

HAHAHAHA that’s not true I threatened to break up with her and she came back crying saying she’ll be better, so she does wanna be here she’s just emotionally stupid and shy as fuck

That’s true but I’m not a fucking chad

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

Read every word.

WHAT? You went into a relationship without even kissing or having sex? At least having sex once is a must for me to go into a relationship with a girl.

Chad or not lol trust me, if what you said is true your lookswise, girls similar with her levels of looks would love to kiss and have sex with you or whatever.

Listen to me, I'll tell you how to fix it with just a sentence. Do not be a bitch, go up to her tell her that you really like her but you haven't kissed or done anything and you don't even feel like its a relationship between you two and tell her how that fact makes you really uncomfortable. Say that it feels extremely weird having to convince your own girlfriend to kiss you. Tell her that it doesn't feel like a real relationship at all. Do not be desperate. Tell her how you feel. And if she still tells you some bs, break up with her. You deserve better than being in this situation. I've been in a similar situation when a girl keeps inviting me over and telling me how she likes me (she stalked my snap somehow after we met at a party JFL), but refuses to kiss or to do anything with some stupid ass excuse.

 

[ETR]

I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy, to have such an amazing girl and to still be so unsure in your relationship is a horrible situation to be in. If you think about it though there are really only two cases you could be in:

1. She doesn't love you

It wouldn't make much sense for her to have gone on so many dates and said yes to being your gf if she didn't love you but people don't make sense. From what I have seen especially with first relationships girls (and guys) will say yes to nearly any decent person even if they don't really love them just because they want to love them and haven't learnt that being in a relationship isn't going to magically make people love each other. It might not be that she is being malicious but she just doesn't understand her own emotions.

2. She loves you

It wouldn't make much sense for her to love you and for her still be so distant and not have any intimacy but people don't make sense. There are a few reasons she might not feel comfortable with that stuff, her religion, self image issues, personal trauma etc. but at the end of the day she still really loves you.

Depending on what case you fall into you need to act differently so you need to figure out which it is. The fact there are only two is handy for this because if you can be sure one is false then the other must be true, when you have removed the impossible whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. You know her better than any of us so when you look within yourself and think back on your time with her what do you think.

Personally I have felt what you feel now and I hated it more than anything but I'm rooting for you bro. If what she wrote in that card is true then she understands that her being so closed off is an issue and she has listened to you and wants you to know how she feels. I think you should stick around a bit longer, try to spend time with her and have honest conversations and try to see if there is a reason for her being this way, basically look for evidence that you are/aren't in one of the cases. I really feel for you man and I hope you can find a love with her that doesn't make you worry. Even if you don't make an update post it would be nice to hear how things play out in PMs. Good luck with everything man

 

[Azie555]

To start, i’m a factually a LHTN/MHTN also being 6 feet tall. I started talking to this girl back in mid June and have been going about 3 dates a month until around late August where I asked her to be my gf in which she said yes. She is factually a Stacylite, think of Gio Scottii without the coloring. Christmas Eve is tomorrow, and throughout all this time we haven’t even kissed. She’s a very value grounded/religious girl; she doesn’t drink, smoke, follow other guys on social media platforms, etc. I just finished hanging out with her for the last time since I’m going to be going on a trip on Christmas. I’ve talked to her about her not showing her emotions and being romantic two times now and they have both led to nothing. I’ve been objectively a very good boyfriend, I’ve held her in my hands during tough times, i’ve got her flowers numerous times, I’ve took her on expensive dates, yet I can’t even get a kiss? Realistically, this wouldn’t be happening if I was a Chad, she would be the one paying for dates, she would be the one getting me gifts, she would be the one wanting to kiss me. What I initially thought after thinking about my situation is that looks is a short term factor that helps you through first dates, meeting new people, etc, and that personality is the driving factor for the long-term, but I was wrong. Her personality would be totally different. If I was, Chad, she wouldn’t be as hesitant, as skeptical as leery as she is. She would be able to open up to me, be with me, and kiss me without thinking nor hesitating. It’s just so brutal because in these six months, I’ve done absolutely everything I could, yet to what avail? Don’t get me wrong, she’s a very caring person and being with a girl like her is rare, but it doesn’t even feel like an actual relationship, it feels like we’re close friends, which destroys me day by day. At this point, I feel like giving up on it because I don’t know how much more I can give without receiving anything, all of this because I am a HTN. I never thought having a gf would be so platonic, I just don’t know what else to do atp, I already talked to her about it multiple times as I said and nothing has changed, and now that’s I’m going on a trip for 10 days it’s going to be even more distant when I come back. I’ve already met her family and she just gave me my Christmas gift which was a silver chain and a card before I left. The card said something like, “I know I can’t express my emotions to you that well but I truly love you”. But does she really? It doesn’t feel like it.

not a single molecule

 

[Purecel]

Read every word.

WHAT? You went into a relationship without even kissing or having sex? At least having sex once is a must for me to go into a relationship with a girl.

Chad or not lol trust me, if what you said is true your lookswise, girls similar with her levels of looks would love to kiss and have sex with you or whatever.

Listen to me, I'll tell you how to fix it with just a sentence. Do not be a bitch, go up to her tell her that you really like her but you haven't kissed or done anything and you don't even feel like its a relationship between you two and tell her how that fact makes you really uncomfortable. Say that it feels extremely weird having to convince your own girlfriend to kiss you. Tell her that it doesn't feel like a real relationship at all. Do not be desperate. Tell her how you feel. And if she still tells you some bs, break up with her. You deserve better than being in this situation. I've been in a similar situation when a girl keeps inviting me over and telling me how she likes me (she stalked my snap somehow after we met at a party JFL), but refuses to kiss or to do anything with some stupid ass excuse.

I appreciate you reading bro and yeah, you have some really good points. I just knew that she’s a very inexperienced and pure person, I’m basically her first everything so I didn’t wanna rush anything, but it’s getting to a point, it’s been six months. I’m not sure if I wanna wait anymore. Next chance I get, I will listen to your advice thanks dude.

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

no dicking problem dide, never tirning against a member of this forum, you do tou and

I appreciate you reading bro and yeah, you have some really good points. I just knew that she’s a very inexperienced and pure person, I’m basically her first everything so I didn’t wanna rush anything, but it’s getting to a point, it’s been six months. I’m not sure if I wanna wait anymore. Next chance I get, I will listen to your advice thanks dude.

makesure ur happy bro, I really fucking hate seeing u being sad, love you bro, wish all rhe tucking best 5 u man

 

[IDontBlameAnybody]

i understand, shes really pretty and ur afeaid of losing her, completely understand, just so t beat urself up for that, dont be desperate, be real and straight forward, iyou deserve the tucking eorld bro. love you

 

[Purecel]

I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy, to have such an amazing girl and to still be so unsure in your relationship is a horrible situation to be in. If you think about it though there are really only two cases you could be in:

1. She doesn't love you

It wouldn't make much sense for her to have gone on so many dates and said yes to being your gf if she didn't love you but people don't make sense. From what I have seen especially with first relationships girls (and guys) will say yes to nearly any decent person even if they don't really love them just because they want to love them and haven't learnt that being in a relationship isn't going to magically make people love each other. It might not be that she is being malicious but she just doesn't understand her own emotions.

2. She loves you

It wouldn't make much sense for her to love you and for her still be so distant and not have any intimacy but people don't make sense. There are a few reasons she might not feel comfortable with that stuff, her religion, self image issues, personal trauma etc. but at the end of the day she still really loves you.

Depending on what case you fall into you need to act differently so you need to figure out which it is. The fact there are only two is handy for this because if you can be sure one is false then the other must be true, when you have removed the impossible whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. You know her better than any of us so when you look within yourself and think back on your time with her what do you think.

Personally I have felt what you feel now and I hated it more than anything but I'm rooting for you bro. If what she wrote in that card is true then she understands that her being so closed off is an issue and she has listened to you and wants you to know how she feels. I think you should stick around a bit longer, try to spend time with her and have honest conversations and try to see if there is a reason for her being this way, basically look for evidence that you are/aren't in one of the cases. I really feel for you man and I hope you can find a love with her that doesn't make you worry. Even if you don't make an update post it would be nice to hear how things play out in PMs. Good luck with everything man

Holy high IQ you really know what you’re talking about dude. Based on the experiences I’ve had around with her and what I do know about her, I would say that she does love me, or at least being with me, but I would say her religion, environment she grew up in, self image, and past personal “trauma” our reasons why she’s so closed up. I’ve talked to her about it before and she realizes how closed up she is and said that she will try her best to loosen up, but honestly, I don’t think that she has the courage to do so. Thanks for your advice, I do plan on staying longer to see where this can go, and I am sorry that you were in my position once upon a time. I will make an another post sometime soon probably around mid January to let you guys know what has happened and if it ended well and she finally opened up or if we eventually had to sadly part ways. You don’t understand how much I appreciate you writing me such a detailed and in-depth message, you’re a good person, and don’t let the evils into this world, corrupt to who you are, I’m rooting for you as well and I wish you the absolute best.