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Was reading about the chance of survival for soldiers during WW1. Official articles (which are probably propaganda) claim war deaths were exaggerated and that the soldiers who fought in WW1 had 85-90% chance of survival. Just lol. I was reading about this question on Quroa, when I saw this extremely blackpill answer from a dude who's grandfather actually fought in WW1:
Original question:
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Blackpilled answer:
"I am going to disagree with the other answer providers, based only on the research I did regarding my grandfather and his mates who enlisted at the same time.
For soldiers in the Canadian Expeditionary Force (CEF) the odds of becoming a casualty were 10% per month, not per year, per month. They called it wastage. That meant a battalion of 1000 men would lose 100 per month, and that’s when they were just manning the trenches. When they attacked they could lose half the attacking force of 700 (they learned to leave a core group of about 300 behind (left out of battle) to rebuild after an assault).
Now even when a soldier wasn’t in the front line trench (1 week per month) , he was still exposed to artillery and snipers while in the support, trench (1 week per month), and artillery in the reserve trench (1 week per month). It was only, maybe, in his fourth week that the soldier might be safe from enemy fire, and then they were often assigned fatigues digging ditches etc. which might bring them back into exposure from enemy fire again. On top of that they were exposed to lice borne disease and sleeping rough and poor nutrition that reduced many of the survivors lives later on.
Now the numbers: of the 13 men who signed up with my grandfather, 12 were wounded, often multiple times and in multiple ways, 4 of the 13 were killed in the line of fire, 1 died in the 1920’s and it was documented as a war injury, and 1 died two weeks before the war ended of influenza, the last pandemic humans on this planet have faced. So the chance for my grandfather and his mates becoming a casualty was 92% (one older man who was spared was an officer’s bat man (personal servant) so he escaped the front lines) , the chance of being killed was 46%.
In my grandfather’s case he was wounded first at The Bluff in Ypres (mine explosion July 25, 1916) and then shot by a sniper through the leg at the Somme (Sept. 26, 1916). As the war went on the chance of becoming a casualty may have been reduced, but only because more soldiers were rotated into the same number of trenches so the probability of an individual soldier being injured or killed must have been lower, but the casualty rate remained the same. I don’t think this has been researched enough. The casualty rates must have been even higher for the first soldiers who answered the call in August 1914."
So basically we are talking 40-60% chance of death depending on your luck, and possibly even higher if you fought in the most brutal battles. Jfl at being a soldier by choice just fucking lol.
Just throw away your life for a nation that won't exist in the future theory.
Original question:
What were the odds of surviving WW1?
Answer (1 of 5): You must mean for a common soldier. Contrary to general cognition some 80-90% of British survived WW1 physically unharmed (I’m not talking about psychological sequels). This was due mainly to 2 factors: 1. The trench system. Those damp, filthy and horrible trenches provided goo...
Blackpilled answer:
"I am going to disagree with the other answer providers, based only on the research I did regarding my grandfather and his mates who enlisted at the same time.
For soldiers in the Canadian Expeditionary Force (CEF) the odds of becoming a casualty were 10% per month, not per year, per month. They called it wastage. That meant a battalion of 1000 men would lose 100 per month, and that’s when they were just manning the trenches. When they attacked they could lose half the attacking force of 700 (they learned to leave a core group of about 300 behind (left out of battle) to rebuild after an assault).
Now even when a soldier wasn’t in the front line trench (1 week per month) , he was still exposed to artillery and snipers while in the support, trench (1 week per month), and artillery in the reserve trench (1 week per month). It was only, maybe, in his fourth week that the soldier might be safe from enemy fire, and then they were often assigned fatigues digging ditches etc. which might bring them back into exposure from enemy fire again. On top of that they were exposed to lice borne disease and sleeping rough and poor nutrition that reduced many of the survivors lives later on.
Now the numbers: of the 13 men who signed up with my grandfather, 12 were wounded, often multiple times and in multiple ways, 4 of the 13 were killed in the line of fire, 1 died in the 1920’s and it was documented as a war injury, and 1 died two weeks before the war ended of influenza, the last pandemic humans on this planet have faced. So the chance for my grandfather and his mates becoming a casualty was 92% (one older man who was spared was an officer’s bat man (personal servant) so he escaped the front lines) , the chance of being killed was 46%.
In my grandfather’s case he was wounded first at The Bluff in Ypres (mine explosion July 25, 1916) and then shot by a sniper through the leg at the Somme (Sept. 26, 1916). As the war went on the chance of becoming a casualty may have been reduced, but only because more soldiers were rotated into the same number of trenches so the probability of an individual soldier being injured or killed must have been lower, but the casualty rate remained the same. I don’t think this has been researched enough. The casualty rates must have been even higher for the first soldiers who answered the call in August 1914."
So basically we are talking 40-60% chance of death depending on your luck, and possibly even higher if you fought in the most brutal battles. Jfl at being a soldier by choice just fucking lol.
Just throw away your life for a nation that won't exist in the future theory.
