Caging at anyone starving themselves

[noonespecial]

If you're ugly at 15% bf going down to 12% won't do shit. Bulk up to 15 then cut a bit and do the same over and over

 

[Zenis]

If you're ugly at 15% bf going down to 12% won't do shit. Bulk up to 15 then cut a bit and do the same over and over

People store facial fat differently

For some 17% body fat is enough, for others they need to drop down to 12y

 

[noonespecial]

People store facial fat differently

For some 17% body fat is enough, for others they need to drop down to 12y

Frame and muscle>hollow cheeks

 

[Sovvton]

Frame and muscle>hollow cheeks

Disagree

Not only do I have naturally fatter face but also shit fat storage and weak forward projection of maxilla/zygo which makes me look chubbier

My face when starved completely mogs me at usual bf%

 

[yayatourer]

Frame and muscle>hollow cheeks

Why not both ? It’s unhealthy to be over 15% bf and you can be very muscular at 12% buddy but its hard work.
Plus the attraction (sex appeal) from body and attraction from face differs kn treatment

 

[noonespecial]

Disagree

Not only do I have naturally fatter face but also shit fat storage and weak forward projection of maxilla/zygo which makes me look chubbier

My face when starved completely mogs me at usual bf%

Yeah but build some sort of muscle before becoming debloated

 

[noonespecial]

Why not both ? It’s unhealthy to be over 15% bf and you can be very muscular at 12% buddy but its hard work.
Plus the attraction (sex appeal) from body and attraction from face differs kn treatment

Go for muscle first then cut to 10%

 

[yayatourer]

Disagree

Not only do I have naturally fatter face but also shit fat storage and weak forward projection of maxilla/zygo which makes me look chubbier

My face when starved completely mogs me at usual bf%

Same, at what body fat do you start to have a human face balck Goku ?

 

[yayatourer]

Yeah but build some sort of muscle before becoming debloated

I think you should get very lean once before so you know your potential and start a lean bulk

 

[yayatourer]

Go for muscle first then cut to 10%

If you have experience yes I agree but if you dont you will lose all your muscles in your first cut so its better to know how to do it first

 

[noonespecial]

If you have experience yes I agree but if you dont you will lose all your muscles in your first cut so its better to know how to do it first

Don't cut to 10% right away

 

[yayatourer]

Don't cut to 10% right away

Cut to 12% if you re a beginner you ll still put on muscle and get leaner

 

[Sovvton]

Same, at what body fat do you start to have a human face balck Goku ?

The thing is I don’t think I’ve ever been above 18-20 bf% but I will say I go from above average to actually gl at around 14%

What about you kolo toures brother

 

[yayatourer]

The thing is I don’t think I’ve ever been above 18-20 bf% but I will say I go from above average to actually gl at around 14%

What about you kolo toures brother

Ahah its a regerence to Yaya toure my favorite soccer player all time bad luck
i think I go from ugly to average or a little bit above at around 12%
But I think im no longer disgusting at 14%