Can ccw + bimax add under eye support?

[recessedsub5baldcel]

If not what are some options

 

[recessedsub5baldcel]

Bump

 

[geenk worg]

no

 

[1Dekuu]

no

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

Just get implants for better under eye support and everything jaw related. Bimax and ccw are very serious procedures usually only done on deformed faces.

 

[recessedsub5baldcel]

no

Then what would help with under eye support

 

[recessedsub5baldcel]

Just get implants for better under eye support and everything jaw related. Bimax and ccw are very serious procedures usually only done on deformed faces.

Makes sense imo being subhuman is a deformity

 

[recessedsub5baldcel]

no

Then what kind of surgery would give better under eye support

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

Makes sense imo being subhuman is a deformity

These deformities are usually caused by traffic accidents n sht. Being born with such deformity is very rare considering modern medical equipment.

 

[1Dekuu]

infra orbital implant is the best option

 

[temporomandibular32]

Just get implants for better under eye support and everything jaw related. Bimax and ccw are very serious procedures usually only done on deformed faces.

This is not true. BiMax is a relatively routine surgery used to fix one’s bite, whether they have an overbite or underbite; it opens the airways, corrects chewing motions, etc. LeFort 2 and 3 are the surgeries reserved for syndromic patients.

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

This is not true. BiMax is a relatively routine surgery used to fix one’s bite, whether they have an overbite or underbite; it opens the airways, corrects chewing motions, etc. LeFort 2 and 3 are the surgeries reserved for syndromic patients.

Lmao, no way you said bimax is used to fix someones bite. I see people daily with recessed mandibles. If what you say is true all of these people would be sent to a jaw surgeon to fix it by their GP.

 

[temporomandibular32]

Lmao, no way you said bimax is used to fix someones bite. I see people daily with recessed mandibles. If what you say is true all of these people would be sent to a jaw surgeon to fix it by their GP.

“Bimaxillary orthognathic surgery is used to treat malformations such as Class 2 bite, Class 3 bite, facial asymmetry, or open bite or crossbite, among other malocclusions when a monomaxillary surgery is not enough to repair the patient's problems.”

Braces, and especially BiMax, are luxuries not everybody is able to afford. Almost every single modern human is recessed to some degree due to environmental or genetic factors. Not everybody who is recessed is referred to a maxillofacial surgeon as orthodontic treatment can “camouflage” or outright fix the problem if done correctly.

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

“Bimaxillary orthognathic surgery is used to treat malformations such as Class 2 bite, Class 3 bite, facial asymmetry, or open bite or crossbite, among other malocclusions when a monomaxillary surgery is not enough to repair the patient's problems.”

Braces, and especially BiMax, are luxuries not everybody is able to afford. Almost every single modern human is recessed to some degree due to environmental or genetic factors. Not everybody who is recessed is referred to a maxillofacial surgeon as orthodontic treatment can “camouflage” or outright fix the problem if done correctly.

The degree of over or underbite has to be near deformity levels (like a mandible that is 10cm recessed) for a sensible surgeon to perform bimax on the mf. And even that is started with orthondontic headgear. I swear to god ppl on this forum out here advising bimax as if it is the same as minoxidil.

 

[temporomandibular32]

The degree of over or underbite has to be near deformity levels (like a mandible that is 10cm recessed) for a sensible surgeon to perform bimax on the mf. And even that is started with orthondontic headgear. I swear to god ppl on this forum out here advising bimax as if it is the same as minoxidil.

No need to be aggressive, nor to jump to conclusions like “advising BiMax as if it were monoxidil.”

Firstly, recession of 10 cm (100 mm) is anatomically impossible. 4-6 mm of overbite (and it only gets worse as mm increases) is entering deep overbite territory, where BiMax would greatly benefit the recipient. You’re absolutely correct in thinking that BiMax is not the solution for everybody, but it’s absolutely a good solution for those with certain Class 2 and Class 3 bites.

 

[BProdigy]

Lmao, no way you said bimax is used to fix someones bite. I see people daily with recessed mandibles. If what you say is true all of these people would be sent to a jaw surgeon to fix it by their GP.

Bro why are you even on this forum stop spreading this misinformation. Maxfax surgeons perform bimax daily for cosmetic reasons. Bimax saves life’s

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

Bro why are you even on this forum stop spreading this misinformation. Maxfax surgeons perform bimax daily for cosmetic reasons. Bimax saves life’s

Lol misinformation, if I were to go to a maxillo surgeon right now and tell him ‘hey! I want a bimax to fix my 2mm overbite’ he will straight laugh in my face, thinking I am joking.

 

[CookieGuy]

It does fix a little bit of under eye support due to shifting in soft tissue, however you should still get infraorbital implants. But the people saying “no” are incorrect

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

yeah it helps a lot as it gives you illusion of forward growth thanks to LF1 area being pulled away,
so you are seen are not recessed , furthermore when people see you IRL moving from differtent angles.

your recessed orbital, unless curry tier recession, will give you a tired look instead of whole flat midface .

 

[BProdigy]

Lol misinformation, if I were to go to a maxillo surgeon right now and tell him ‘hey! I want a bimax to fix my 2mm overbite’ he will straight laugh in my face, thinking I am joking.

A blackpilled surgeon will do it. Fixing the overbite is one thing. We want more forward growth that’s why so many people on here get bimax.

 

[Deleted member 88357]

Lol misinformation, if I were to go to a maxillo surgeon right now and tell him ‘hey! I want a bimax to fix my 2mm overbite’ he will straight laugh in my face, thinking I am joking.

mirin trying to get rid of the competition, ill start doing the same thing from now on, no more anwering question about surgeries

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

A blackpilled surgeon will do it. Fixing the overbite is one thing. We want more forward growth that’s why so many people on here get bimax.

Yeah sure, but personally I would rather get synthetic implants than a whole jaw surgery. Which ofcourse doesnt fix over or underbite. But im guessing you guys are more worried about the aesthetic than the function.

 

[okwiwhd]

Then what would help with under eye support

Prf and laser r the more “softmax” routes.m, they do work just take many treatments (probably every month) to see a difference. Then you fillers which are most instant. Then you have fat grafting which takes a bit but is also risky bc fat grafts are like planting seeds.

I have the same sunken eyes issue, it comes and goes. My plan is to do prf and pico laser and just alternate.

 

[zemult]

The degree of over or underbite has to be near deformity levels (like a mandible that is 10cm recessed) for a sensible surgeon to perform bimax on the mf. And even that is started with orthondontic headgear. I swear to god ppl on this forum out here advising bimax as if it is the same as minoxidil.

I agree with you partially. Bimax is oversuggested on this forum by mostly low-IQ users, but people with shitty bites / clear jaw recession benefit greatly.

This is a great Trimax ascension that was posted on this website not that long ago:

It all depends on the individual case of the person. Normies with no significant recession and good forward/downward growth will not benefit aesthetically from Bimax jfl. Implants all the way. But those with bad bites or clear problems like SFS or downswung maxilla can have massive ascensions and you're just being ignorant for thinking otherwise.

 

[HardmaxxUser]

Just get implants for better under eye support and everything jaw related. Bimax and ccw are very serious procedures usually only done on deformed faces.

bimax is not just for deformed faces fym, All bimax is is repositioning the upper and lowing jaw. If you want a longer face, bimax is performed with a lefort 1 cut and a large downgraft. Bimax is very common for aesthetics. You essentially have to use it if your doing any aesthetic cuts to repotition the maxilla/upper jaw.. Very uninformed sir.

 

[HardmaxxUser]

I agree with you partially. Bimax is oversuggested on this forum by mostly low-IQ users, but people with shitty bites / clear jaw recession benefit greatly.

This is a great Trimax ascension that was posted on this website not that long ago:

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It all depends on the individual case of the person. Normies with no significant recession and good forward/downward growth will not benefit aesthetically from Bimax jfl. Implants all the way. But those with bad bites or clear problems like SFS or downswung maxilla can have massive ascensions and you're just being ignorant for thinking otherwise.

Using this for a tiktok

 

[HardmaxxUser]

Yeah sure, but personally I would rather get synthetic implants than a whole jaw surgery. Which ofcourse doesnt fix over or underbite. But im guessing you guys are more worried about the aesthetic than the function.

Jaw surgery is nothing to be afraid of lmao, 1 hour operation, and a few weeks of recovery.

 

[darodcel]

yeah it helps a lot as it gives you illusion of forward growth thanks to LF1 area being pulled away,
so you are seen are not recessed , furthermore when people see you IRL moving from differtent angles.

your recessed orbital, unless curry tier recession, will give you a tired look instead of whole flat midface .

So if my maxilla isn't that recessed(I honestly don't even know if it's recessed or if my under eye support is due to low fat stores) but my flat ass zygo/orbital is fucking up my side profile, would it make sense to just get infraorbital implants and not bother with a bimax?

 

[okwiwhd]

bimax is not just for deformed faces fym, All bimax is is repositioning the upper and lowing jaw. If you want a longer face, bimax is performed with a lefort 1 cut and a large downgraft. Bimax is very common for aesthetics. You essentially have to use it if your doing any aesthetic cuts to repotition the maxilla/upper jaw.. Very uninformed sir.

ATP just get an aggressive genio(8mm+) unless ur terribly recessed and have a death tier jaw

 

[HardmaxxUser]

ATP just get an aggressive genio(8mm+) unless ur terribly recessed and have a death tier jaw

an 8mm genio is gonna look uncanny asf, hell you talking about. Bimax is used to lengthen the face, give a bigger jaw if its a 5 peice mandible, so many uses man. Bimax just means your moving the upper and lower jaws, you dont have to go forward at all for it to be a bimax.

 

[Manfrommars]

The degree of over or underbite has to be near deformity levels (like a mandible that is 10cm recessed) for a sensible surgeon to perform bimax on the mf. And even that is started with orthondontic headgear. I swear to god ppl on this forum out here advising bimax as if it is the same as minoxidil.

What it someone had a severely assymetric jaw where one side is just majorly downward grown causing a uneven bite from bone issue

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

What it someone had a severely assymetric jaw where one side is just majorly downward grown causing a uneven bite from bone issue

Then probably even the doctor will tell the mf he should get a jaw surgery and the insurance will cover the cost.

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

Jaw surgery is nothing to be afraid of lmao, 1 hour operation, and a few weeks of recovery.

It is, didnt you see that video where some british guy got a bimax and I think lefort from Sunil Richardson. So for aesthetic issues I would generally reccomend implants and fillers instead.

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

I agree with you partially. Bimax is oversuggested on this forum by mostly low-IQ users, but people with shitty bites / clear jaw recession benefit greatly.

This is a great Trimax ascension that was posted on this website not that long ago:

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It all depends on the individual case of the person. Normies with no significant recession and good forward/downward growth will not benefit aesthetically from Bimax jfl. Implants all the way. But those with bad bites or clear problems like SFS or downswung maxilla can have massive ascensions and you're just being ignorant for thinking otherwise.

Yes this exactly, if your jaw problems are ‘severe’ then ofcourse a bimax surgery is better but for the vast majority the problems are not severe and that is why implants for those people is the most logical choice.

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

bimax is not just for deformed faces fym, All bimax is is repositioning the upper and lowing jaw. If you want a longer face, bimax is performed with a lefort 1 cut and a large downgraft. Bimax is very common for aesthetics. You essentially have to use it if your doing any aesthetic cuts to repotition the maxilla/upper jaw.. Very uninformed sir.

You think I am making the side effects and failed surgeries up?

 

[notalive]

You think I am making the side effects and failed surgeries up?

Side effects and failed surgeries are 100% the surgeon's fault

You MUST go to a blackpilled, experienced surgeon if you want a good result

 

[HardmaxxUser]

It is, didnt you see that video where some british guy got a bimax and I think lefort from Sunil Richardson. So for aesthetic issues I would generally reccomend implants and fillers instead.

Thats terrible advice mate, just coping with fillers and implants. But do you man.

 

[HardmaxxUser]

You think I am making the side effects and failed surgeries up?

Ancdotes don't determine the overall safety of the surgery. Suregons do hundreds of cases every year, theres gonna be bad cases its inevitable. Oh, and if your gonna go that route, look in this forum about implant issues and filler issues. Guarentee there is more people that deal with issues post op from fillers or implants compared to bimax. Filler migrates, and implants get infected. Dont post your bs on here when you have no idea what you are talking about. Of course if you go with some suregon in mumbai your going to be leaving fked up.. go to a top suregon, and wallah, dont have to cope with filler for 50 years.

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

Thats terrible advice mate, just coping with fillers and implants. But do you man.

Tell me why then for just purely aesthetic reasons someone should consider a jaw surgery over fillers and implants.

 

[lovebeingamanlet]

If not what are some options

no, just get orbital implant

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

Ancdotes don't determine the overall safety of the surgery. Suregons do hundreds of cases every year, theres gonna be bad cases its inevitable. Oh, and if your gonna go that route, look in this forum about implant issues and filler issues. Guarentee there is more people that deal with issues post op from fillers or implants compared to bimax. Filler migrates, and implants get infected. Dont post your bs on here when you have no idea what you are talking about. Of course if you go with some suregon in mumbai your going to be leaving fked up.. go to a top suregon, and wallah, dont have to cope with filler for 50 years.

No way you believe jaw surgeries are safer than implants or fillers, ofcourse there are risks with everything but fillers and implants are also performed more for aesthetic reasons because they are cheaper. Thus they will also have high incidences but that doesnt mean the chances are also higher. Sunil richardson is a good doctor btw, he is in the field for decades and has performed many surgeries.

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

Side effects and failed surgeries are 100% the surgeon's fault

You MUST go to a blackpilled, experienced surgeon if you want a good result

Not always, it also depends on how the body reacts with the surgery. Just like I said to the other guy even experienced surgeons like Sunil Richardson go catastrophically sometimes.

 

[HorseMan7]

Tell me why then for just purely aesthetic reasons someone should consider a jaw surgery over fillers and implants.

Because bimax and implants do different things. No amount of fillers or implants will fix someone with a recessed maxilla or a gummy smile. The ONLY cure for that is bimax.

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

Because bimax and implants do different things. No amount of fillers or implants will fix someone with a recessed maxilla or a gummy smile. The ONLY cure for that is bimax.

implants wont fix the bite problems but it definitely can fraud it, if function is not a problem implants can definitely help. Refine ur take bro.

 

[HorseMan7]

implants wont fix the bite problems but it definitely can fraud it, if function is not a problem implants can definitely help. Refine ur take bro.

I'm not talking about bite problems. You can have a good bite and still need bimax. If the jaws are in the wrong position, you need to move the jaws. Plus, if you have recession, you probably have some degree of functional problems.

 

[moze]

Ancdotes don't determine the overall safety of the surgery. Suregons do hundreds of cases every year, theres gonna be bad cases its inevitable. Oh, and if your gonna go that route, look in this forum about implant issues and filler issues. Guarentee there is more people that deal with issues post op from fillers or implants compared to bimax. Filler migrates, and implants get infected. Dont post your bs on here when you have no idea what you are talking about. Of course if you go with some suregon in mumbai your going to be leaving fked up.. go to a top suregon, and wallah, dont have to cope with filler for 50 years.

I have only seen 1 guy who got infection from implant the way you talking looks like you got bimax.”GO TO TOP SURGEON”same goes for implants you want to go to rameiri or pagnoni

 

[HardmaxxUser]

No way you believe jaw surgeries are safer than implants or fillers, ofcourse there are risks with everything but fillers and implants are also performed more for aesthetic reasons because they are cheaper. Thus they will also have high incidences but that doesnt mean the chances are also higher. Sunil richardson is a good doctor btw, he is in the field for decades and has performed many surgeries

speak better english i can barely understand u.

I have only seen 1 guy who got infection from implant the way you talking looks like you got bimax.”GO TO TOP SURGEON”same goes for implants you want to go to rameiri or pag

 

[idkwhattoputhere]

yeah it helps a lot as it gives you illusion of forward growth thanks to LF1 area being pulled away,
so you are seen are not recessed , furthermore when people see you IRL moving from differtent angles.

your recessed orbital, unless curry tier recession, will give you a tired look instead of whole flat midface .

it doesn’t give the illusion, it is literally just making you forward grown

 

[BeatleJuiceFanBoy10]

speak better english i can barely understand u.

Its understandable if you try, but it just shows ur character, as soon as you see a good argument u throw this bs

 

[lurking truecel]

CCW could make it worse depending on impaction and downgrafting, or not worse per say but more skinnso it seems worse