Can I grow my clivicles and frame at 17

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of course but you'll need steroids
 
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I read the "is it possible without steroids" in Anakin's voice
 
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b12345 said:
How ? What if I do the exercises and grow my delts and lats
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all cope, hop on asap, i wish i did sooner, framemaxxers like @Clavicular think the same
 
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<6PSLcel said:
all cope, hop on asap, i wish i did sooner, framemaxxers like @Clavicular think the same
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The side affects are bad I here and I wouldn’t know what to do or how to get it cause I’m only 17 I’m not tryna die young lmaoo and also I would have to hide it From my parents
 
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b12345 said:
Will it make my frame wider
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yes but it is super overrated
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Is my frame reallt that cooked keep in mind this picture is a year old and also the angle makes my traps look bigger
 
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b12345 said:
The side affects are bad I here and I wouldn’t know what to do or how to get it cause I’m only 17 I’m not tryna die young lmaoo and also I would have to hide it From my parents
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cuck ngmi
 
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What should I do besides steroids or the or supplements wise that won’t fuck tm balls up
 
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b12345 said:
What should I do besides steroids or the or supplements wise that won’t fuck tm balls up
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supplements wont really do anything brah except maybe creatine but dont expect much at all
 
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read the botb thread on frame maxxing , swimming/reeves deadlifts,shrugs etc might work also try to generally increase test levels eat meat diary eggs megadose d3+k2, supp magnesium citrate, calcium zinc , ashwagandha maybe for test and , basically only shit u can do for natty if ur not tryna hop on shit and probably wont work without peds but only thing u can do also dont forget to pray to @Clavicular every night for wider clavicles
 
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lightswinning said:
read the botb thread on frame maxxing , swimming/reeves deadlifts,shrugs etc might work also try to generally increase test levels eat meat diary eggs megadose d3+k2, supp magnesium citrate, calcium zinc , ashwagandha maybe for test and , basically only shit u can do for natty if ur not tryna hop on shit and probably wont work without peds but only thing u can do also dont forget to pray to @Clavicular every night for wider clavicles
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If I grow my side delts and lats wilh that give me a wider frame
 
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lightswinning said:
read the botb thread on frame maxxing , swimming/reeves deadlifts,shrugs etc might work also try to generally increase test levels eat meat diary eggs megadose d3+k2, supp magnesium citrate, calcium zinc , ashwagandha maybe for test and , basically only shit u can do for natty if ur not tryna hop on shit and probably wont work without peds but only thing u can do also dont forget to pray to @Clavicular every night for wider clavicles
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How I’ll it not work without peds
 
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b12345 said:
Is mk677 considered a ped I wanna take thta and is it safe
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it is a growth hormone secretougage basically stimulates the pituatry gland to produce more gh , its mainly used for heightmaxxing but might help frame and no its not 100 percent safe its a research chemical for a reason , you might give yourself diabetes( take insulin pills for this), you will retain more water might get bloated, it fucks with the nervous system so you might get ptsd like dreams,you have to monitor blood pressure aswell , also when u hop off your body might not secrete enough gh after naturally since it fucks with the endocrine system, do your own research before taking anything controversial also please use the search option and dont ask basic shit like whats mk677 you can get 100x detailed threads on org on peds,mk677 pls learn to use the search option ffs
 
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b12345 said:
I don’t train them
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oh ight might js be an angle

your clavs look fine but they have potential to grow at your age

but yeah reading the thread id generally agree, you would probably want steroids for clav growth
 
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