Can jaw angle implants lengthen Ramus

[Subhuman trash]

Can it? I don’t want a full jaw implant cause they often look bad but maybe just the angle implants can give me a longer ramus/better Gonial angle

 

[needsolution]

Short anwser: yes.

 

[Deleted member 7901]

Why even looksmax, with those shitty Ashkenazi genes you would probably die from a genetic disease before you ascend

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Yes thats what they were originally made for, the custom wrap around implants came afterwards.

The issue you have is the fact they cause bone resorption because the jaw moves around so much from eating and talking. I think zygo implants dont dissolve the bone underneath so badly since they dont move.

Personally I need my jaw widened with lower ramus and wider gonial angle, so Im going for a Chin Wing after my Double Jaw surgery.

 

[Subhuman trash]

Yes thats what they were originally made for, the custom wrap around implants came afterwards.

The issue you have is the fact they cause bone resorption because the jaw moves around so much from eating and talking. I think zygo implants dont dissolve the bone underneath so badly since they dont move.

Personally I need my jaw widened with lower ramus and wider gonial angle, so Im going for a Chin Wing after my Double Jaw surgery.

Is that what chin wing is? I thought chin wing didn’t effect gonial angle and ramus only chin and part of the jaw behind it

 

[MisterMercedes]

I’d rather actually have a longer ramus then have a piece of silicone frauding it. Most of the time, it looks pretty shit.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Is that what chin wing is? I thought chin wing didn’t effect gonial angle and ramus only chin and part of the jaw behind it

The entire jaw can be cut and moved down/out

 

[Subhuman trash]

The entire jaw can be cut and moved down/out

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Is that different than a BSSO?

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Is that different than a BSSO?

Yes only the jaw changes position. BSSO changes the entire mouth and maxilla positioning/angle.

Here's the result of that CT scan I posted:

 

[Subhuman trash]

Yes only the jaw changes position. BSSO changes the entire mouth and maxilla positioning/angle.

Here's the result of that CT scan I posted:

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Yea looks like andrescheiv is the man for this

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Yes only the jaw changes position. BSSO changes the entire mouth and maxilla positioning/angle.

Here's the result of that CT scan I posted:

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What's the best surgery for an already protruding chin but narrow mandible and ramus?

 

[RealSurgerymax]

What's the best surgery for an already protruding chin but narrow mandible and ramus?

What do you mean narrow?

 

[Deleted member 7725]

What do you mean narrow?

Low bigonial width.

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Low bigonial width.

CUSTOM jaw angle implants no question about it.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

CUSTOM jaw angle implants no question about it.

Can you still box with implants?

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Can you still box with implants?

Yes. If I was an MMA fighter I would get a wraparound and midface mask as PROTECTION.

 

[Linoob]

Yes

 

[Deleted member 4797]

What's the best surgery for an already protruding chin but narrow mandible and ramus?

Chin wing and spread your jaw out. It can be moved in any direction the surgeon wants, and looks natural because its your own bone without any dropoffs like implants give.

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

Chin wing and spread your jaw out. It can be moved in any direction the surgeon wants, and looks natural because its your own bone without any dropoffs like implants give.

Chin wing can only do so much though, Id have to see his jaw but if its actually narrow I think chin wing would be underwhelming in this case.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Chin wing can only do so much though, Id have to see his jaw but if its actually narrow I think chin wing would be underwhelming in this case.

True you cant get drastic changes, but to me the drastic changes almost always look fake. I prefer a conservative but 100% realistic and natural appearing result than going for too much and regretting it, so many of Eppley patients look ridiculous after jaw implants from doing too much projection.

1. because the jaw is too big for the upper face.
2. because there is so much plastic in the face, the bigger the implant the more fake it will look. Silicone jaw implants always look more bloated and less sharp than natural jaw bone does.

Basically the best jaw implant results are like this when not too much projection is used:

This is the best jaw implant result I've seen because of how conservative the projection was. However, at this low level of projection your better off getting a Chin Wing, since it has the benefits of no bone resorption, no chance of infection, and looking more natural due to being your own real bone.

 

[Good_Little_Goy]

True you cant get drastic changes, but to me the drastic changes almost always look fake. I prefer a conservative but 100% realistic and natural appearing result than going for too much and regretting it, so many of Eppley patients look ridiculous after jaw implants from doing too much projection.

1. because the jaw is too big for the upper face.
2. because there is so much plastic in the face, the bigger the implant the more fake it will look. Silicone jaw implants always look more bloated and less sharp than natural jaw bone does.

Basically the best jaw implant results are like this when not too much projection is used:
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This is the best jaw implant result I've seen because of how conservative the projection was. However, at this low level of projection your better off getting a Chin Wing, since it has the benefits of no bone resorption, no chance of infection, and looking more natural due to being your own real bone.

You’re right tbf, like I say we would need to see his jaw to say for sure.

But I see some pretty drastic and realistic implant before and afters, most look a bit off though, you’re right about that. I think if you know what you’re doing you can get good, realistic results from implants.

The reason why eppleys patients have a habit of looking weird is solely on them though. He will give you what you ask for with jaw implants, unfortunately people are not smart about it.

Like that guy who ended up with a jaw so massive it looked deformed, I forget his name, he kept asking for more mm when eppley kept advising against it, customisation can be good or bad depending on how you use it.

for the changes they give chinwing results are definitely better than implants for the reasons you say, im still deciding which to get personally.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

You’re right tbf, like I say we would need to see his jaw to say for sure.

But I see some pretty drastic and realistic implant before and afters, most look a bit off though, you’re right about that. I think if you know what you’re doing you can get good, realistic results from implants.

The reason why eppleys patients have a habit of looking weird is solely on them though. He will give you what you ask for with jaw implants, unfortunately people are not smart about it.

Like that guy who ended up with a jaw so massive it looked deformed, I forget his name, he kept asking for more mm when eppley kept advising against it, customisation can be good or bad depending on how you use it.

for the changes they give chinwing results are definitely better than implants for the reasons you say, im still deciding which to get personally.

yeah and you can also relax, not worry about bone resorption or infections which are real possibilities. Also Chin Wing in Europe is cheaper than custom implant with Eppley which is roughly 15kdollars

 

[Subhuman trash]

yeah and you can also relax, not worry about bone resorption or infections which are real possibilities. Also Chin Wing in Europe is cheaper than custom implant with Eppley which is roughly 15kdollars

Yea jfl at paying for (((Eppley)))

 

[Deleted member 7725]

True you cant get drastic changes, but to me the drastic changes almost always look fake. I prefer a conservative but 100% realistic and natural appearing result than going for too much and regretting it, so many of Eppley patients look ridiculous after jaw implants from doing too much projection.

1. because the jaw is too big for the upper face.
2. because there is so much plastic in the face, the bigger the implant the more fake it will look. Silicone jaw implants always look more bloated and less sharp than natural jaw bone does.

Basically the best jaw implant results are like this when not too much projection is used:
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This is the best jaw implant result I've seen because of how conservative the projection was. However, at this low level of projection your better off getting a Chin Wing, since it has the benefits of no bone resorption, no chance of infection, and looking more natural due to being your own real bone.

There’s still chance of infection. Can you box after chin wing? Seems like your jaw is just a thin fragment of bone at that point.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

There’s still chance of infection. Can you box after chin wing? Seems like your jaw is just a thin fragment of bone at that point.

The gap grows bone back completely, its the same as if your jaw naturally grew to that size

 

[Deleted member 7725]

The gap grows bone back completely, its the same as if your jaw naturally grew to that size

Really? How much can be expanded width wise? My zygos are ~8-10mm wider on each side than my gonials.

 

[Deleted member 4797]

Really? How much can be expanded width wise? My zygos are ~8-10mm wider on each side than my gonials.

Im not sure you have to ask a surgeon who performs it

 

[Stevensmithgerard]

yeah and you can also relax, not worry about bone resorption or infections which are real possibilities. Also Chin Wing in Europe is cheaper than custom implant with Eppley which is roughly 15kdollars

I think that's a great idea. Love the idea of bone, not foreign objects. And you can gaslight it like it's for functional purposes, not vanity JFL

However, i think it would be cool AF if a silicone implant could protect your jaw from damage. That's some futuristic shit right there. Imagine kevlar implants around your skull and neck and even vital organ encasings that protect you from impact and piercing damage. How about a f"ist of iron" surgery that adds weight, sharpness, and durability of your knuckles. Maybe a similar treatment for forearms and shins for attacking AND blocking lol

How about muscle/tendon augmentation that attaches a sort of biofilament wire to strategic joints locations in order to add strength and speed to contractions....

 

[Subhuman trash]

Chin wing can only do so much though, Id have to see his jaw but if its actually narrow I think chin wing would be underwhelming in this case.

i did rate me threads im too lazy to PM but yea drastic changes would look fake chin wing seems more conservative and realistic 1-1.5 boast to looks

 

[SPFromNY914]

The entire jaw can be cut and moved down/out

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If you have a long midface wouldn't chin wing make it longer slightly?

 

[Deleted member 4797]

If you have a long midface wouldn't chin wing make it longer slightly?

chin wing will make your jaw angle flatter and wider from the front. It should make your mid face look more proportionate thanks to the added mass in the lower third, but each case is specific so PM me pics (I will keep them private) and I can evaluate if you like.