Can microneedling and hydraulic acid fix nasaloblil folds

[pumpeduppecs]

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[2marc1]

no, theyre caused by malar fat

 

[thegiganigga]

Poor maxilla.

 

[jbwhtninthailand]

Poor maxilla.

Not true.

 

[thegiganigga]

Not true.

Why

 

[jbwhtninthailand]

It can minimise the appreance of it but it will never go away, as it’s caused by fat.


Go book a fat dissolver session or DIY.

 

[zemult]

It can minimise the appreance of it but it will never go away, as it’s caused by fat.


Go book a fat dissolver session or DIY.

Or don't be fat, bro.

 

[pumpeduppecs]

It can minimise the appreance of it but it will never go away, as it’s caused by fat.


Go book a fat dissolver session or DIY.

I’m only like 13% bf

 

[jbwhtninthailand]

I’m only like 13% bf

Do you have visible abs?

 

[BoredPrince]

Poor maxilla.

This, it's the same with me, had them since I was a kid

What do you think, would bimax completely fix them or just reduce them?

 

[pumpeduppecs]

Do you have visible abs?

Kinda

 

[pumpeduppecs]

This, it's the same with me, had them since I was a kid

What do you think, would bimax completely fix them or just reduce them?

Isn’t that a surgery? I’m not ding that shit is there any cope ways that might work like face pulling or thumbpulling?

 

[thegiganigga]

This, it's the same with me, had them since I was a kid

What do you think, would bimax completely fix them or just reduce them?

Nope. Cheek fillers/implants or midface augmentation, it has nothing to do with bimax.

 

[thegiganigga]

Kinda

Show pics

 

[thegiganigga]

Isn’t that a surgery? I’m not ding that shit is there any cope ways that might work like face pulling or thumbpulling?

Hardmaxx is the way

 

[pumpeduppecs]

Hardmaxx is the way

Fuck that mane not cutting my bones up

 

[thegiganigga]

Fuck that mane not cutting my bones up

Well accept and embrace your flaws then

 

[pumpeduppecs]

Well accept and embrace your flaws then

Nah I think I’ll try thumbpulling

 

[BoredPrince]

Nope. Cheek fillers/implants or midface augmentation, it has nothing to do with bimax.

But if folds are caused by recessed maxilla, shouldn't jaw surgery improve the appearance of them (by moving maxilla forward)?

Or they exist due to genetic creseas in the skin, regardless of the positions of the jaws?

 

[BoredPrince]

Isn’t that a surgery? I’m not ding that shit is there any cope ways that might work like face pulling or thumbpulling?

Nope, you can try fat graft, but you need to do it multiple times for it to be permanent

I know it's hardmax, but it's much less invasive than surgery or implants for that matter

 

[zemult]

This, it's the same with me, had them since I was a kid

What do you think, would bimax completely fix them or just reduce them?

Everyone has smile lines, even children do.

I'm assuming yours are significantly prominent? Or are you just a schizo freaking out over barely visible smile lines in unfortunate lighting?

If they are actually prominent, and it's a maxilla problem, it's usually caused by a recession in the paranasal or sub-malar area of the maxilla from what I know. It can be resolved with implants. In theory bimax might help but implants would address the problem more directly

However if your maxilla isn't recessed enough to cause this (which is majority of people, it's kinda a meme), it'd be from malar fat accumulation, which could be due to unfortunate fat distribution genetics or aging. In this case you would just have to lose bodyfat & pray.

 

[BoredPrince]

Everyone has smile lines, even children do.

I'm assuming yours are significantly prominent? Or are you just a schizo freaking out over barely visible smile lines in unfortunate lighting?

If they are actually prominent, and it's a maxilla problem, it's usually caused by a recession in the paranasal or sub-malar area of the maxilla from what I know. It can be resolved with implants. In theory bimax might help but implants would address the problem more directly

However if your maxilla isn't recessed enough to cause this (which is majority of people, it's kinda a meme), it'd be from malar fat accumulation, which could be due to unfortunate fat distribution genetics or aging. In this case you would just have to lose bodyfat & pray.

I'm lean now, mine are visible and prominent and always have been

Now I do indeed need jaw surgery cuz my mandible is severely recessed, and I assume my maxilla would be moved forward too but it's harder to tell is it recessed as well


You mean cheek implants?

I heard that fat graft is good solution as well

 

[zemult]

I'm lean now, mine are visible and prominent and always have been

Now I do indeed need jaw surgery cuz my mandible is severely recessed, and I assume my maxilla would be moved forward too but it's harder to tell is it recessed as well


You mean cheek implants?

I heard that fat graft is good solution as well

Yeah if your mandible is recessed then jaw surgery is no question. Might as well get some more maxilla advancement, just make sure you don't ruin your facial convexity and become dogmaxxed.

I don't just mean cheek implants, in lots of cases recession of the paranasal area can cause nasolabials.

What does your side look like? Do you have poor malar or paranasal support?

If your maxilla is fine, it's probably from an accumulation of fat in the malar area rather than a lack of fat.

 

[BoredPrince]

Yeah if your mandible is recessed then jaw surgery is no question. Might as well get some more maxilla advancement, just make sure you don't ruin your facial convexity and become dogmaxxed.

I don't just mean cheek implants, in lots of cases recession of the paranasal area can cause nasolabials.

What does your side look like? Do you have poor malar or paranasal support?

If your maxilla is fine, it's probably from an accumulation of fat in the malar area rather than a lack of fat.

Ig poor paranasal support, but I'm not too knowledgeable about that

Here's two pics, I'm lying down so angle is kinda weird, on first it's my normal, on second one I'm jutting

Yeah I know my profile is subhuman, surprisingly from the front I look much better

 

[zemult]

Ig poor paranasal support, but I'm not too knowledgeable about that

Here's two pics, I'm lying down so angle is kinda weird, on first it's my normal, on second one I'm jutting

Yeah I know my profile is subhuman, surprisingly from the front I look much better

Paranasal may be alright, I'd say your problem is either malar deficiency or fat accumulation. You'd have to get a skull scan if you wanna know for sure. Unfortunately selfies don't do much to figure out this problem

 

[zemult]

Definitely focus on Bimax though I would say.

 

[zemult]

@BoredPrince

In lots of cases people's undereye fat pads migrate downwards, causing dark circles along with nasolabial folds. This is due to the fat accumulating in that area

Do you have dark circles?

 

[BoredPrince]

Definitely focus on Bimax though I would say.

Yeah unfortunately insurance wouldn't cover it and out of pocket it would be around 20k

And it would be stupid to do anything else before bimax, but thanks

 

[BoredPrince]

@BoredPrince

In lots of cases people's undereye fat pads migrate downwards, causing dark circles along with nasolabial folds. This is due to the fat accumulating in that area

Do you have dark circles?

Yes but barely visible

I can confirm it's due to lack of support, since they disappear when I lift my face up towards the light

 

[zemult]

Yes but barely visible

I can confirm it's due to lack of support, since they disappear when I lift my face up towards the light

Well it's probably not fat related then.

I'd say you have a lack of bone support, either in the malar area or possibly even the paranasal that I overlooked.

Nasolabials can be caused for many reasons.

1. Undereye fat pad migrating downwards. (Usually caused by aging, but doesn't always have to be, and is usually paired with dark circles).
2. Deep Canine Fossa (Genetic, and it's a way your cheeks are shaped, more info here: https://looksmax.org/threads/best-i...labial-folds-among-those.202232/#post-3466075. With this you're required to have low BF% to not have nasolabials. For example a user called NorwoodAscender has this, he has nasolabials at high body fat amounts)
3. Low collagen / not elastic skin. (Another aging thing, realistically nobody here will have this unless you're 40+).
4. Recessed Maxilla (specifically lack of Malar or Paranasal support).

Threads I had bookmarked for this:

Underrated Cause of Ugliness: Excessive Malar Fat Pads

High malar fat pad mass contributes to nasolabial folds and an un-lean facial appearance. Excessive malar fat pad thickness can be due to high body fat percentage, dogshit fat distribution genetics, and age-related saggage. Example: Malar fat pads that protrude ahead of the back of the nose...

looksmax.org

Canine Fossa and the 2 Types of Hollow Cheeks

Have you ever noticed there're 2 kinds of hollow cheeks? It isn't just lighting; it's all a matter of canine fossa. How deep the canine fossa is. Here's the range of canine fossa depths from shallow (left) to deep (right): Shallow canine fossa hollow cheeks: Deep canine fossa hollow...

looksmax.org

Ultimate guide to nasolabial folds: everything you need to know to prevent and correct.

- Nasolabial Folds - 1. Anatomy 2. Types and root causes 3. Correction 4. Prevention What are nasolabial folds ? What are the differents types of nasolabial folds, and which one do i have ? what are the solutions to correct it? (bonus) -> what can I do to prevent nasolabial folds? All...

looksmax.org

improvements from pcl threads/fat dissolver in the nasolabial area subcutaneously.

As you all know there's many theories pertaining the nasolabial fold, most of which revolve around bone recession, mainly the nasal aperture widening with age and the canine fossa becoming deeper, there's also some about volume loss, after carefully contemplating all of these while working on a...

looksmax.org

 

[testNtren]

Depends on the severity, if very minor then it is possible. If they are more severe you could look into getting PDO threads if you don't want to go the full hardmaxx route.

 

[BoredPrince]

Well it's probably not fat related then.

I'd say you have a lack of bone support, either in the malar area or possibly even the paranasal that I overlooked.

Nasolabials can be caused for many reasons.

1. Undereye fat pad migrating downwards. (Usually caused by aging, but doesn't always have to be, and is usually paired with dark circles).
2. Deep Canine Fossa (Genetic, and it's a way your cheeks are shaped, more info here: https://looksmax.org/threads/best-i...labial-folds-among-those.202232/#post-3466075. With this you're required to have low BF% to not have nasolabials. For example a user called NorwoodAscender has this, he has nasolabials at high body fat amounts)
3. Low collagen / not elastic skin. (Another aging thing, realistically nobody here will have this unless you're 40+).
4. Recessed Maxilla (specifically lack of Malar or Paranasal support).

Threads I had bookmarked for this:

Underrated Cause of Ugliness: Excessive Malar Fat Pads

High malar fat pad mass contributes to nasolabial folds and an un-lean facial appearance. Excessive malar fat pad thickness can be due to high body fat percentage, dogshit fat distribution genetics, and age-related saggage. Example: Malar fat pads that protrude ahead of the back of the nose...

looksmax.org

Canine Fossa and the 2 Types of Hollow Cheeks

Have you ever noticed there're 2 kinds of hollow cheeks? It isn't just lighting; it's all a matter of canine fossa. How deep the canine fossa is. Here's the range of canine fossa depths from shallow (left) to deep (right): Shallow canine fossa hollow cheeks: Deep canine fossa hollow...

looksmax.org

Ultimate guide to nasolabial folds: everything you need to know to prevent and correct.

- Nasolabial Folds - 1. Anatomy 2. Types and root causes 3. Correction 4. Prevention What are nasolabial folds ? What are the differents types of nasolabial folds, and which one do i have ? what are the solutions to correct it? (bonus) -> what can I do to prevent nasolabial folds? All...

looksmax.org

improvements from pcl threads/fat dissolver in the nasolabial area subcutaneously.

As you all know there's many theories pertaining the nasolabial fold, most of which revolve around bone recession, mainly the nasal aperture widening with age and the canine fossa becoming deeper, there's also some about volume loss, after carefully contemplating all of these while working on a...

looksmax.org

Oh wow, thanks for the links

Well first and third probably aren't, fourth maybe, but it's mostly my mandible that's recessed


And it's most likely second - deep canine fossa

Tbh didn't even know there was a name for it, was searching for it before but couldn't find it

 

[zemult]

Oh wow, thanks for the links

Well first and third probably aren't, fourth maybe, but it's mostly my mandible that's recessed


And it's most likely second - deep canine fossa

Tbh didn't even know there was a name for it, was searching for it before but couldn't find it

Well with #4, considering you have lack of orbital support causing dark circles, it's entirely possible your upper maxilla has recession, whilst your lower maxilla is normally developed.

The thing is with #2, if you have deep canine fossa, usually if you are at a low BF% it will resolve the problem.

Btw, your nasolabials look barely prominent in this picture, granted the quality is kinda shit.

 

[BoredPrince]

Well with #4, considering you have lack of orbital support causing dark circles, it's entirely possible your upper maxilla has recession, whilst your lower maxilla is normally developed.

Now I'm wondering if that's the case, would surgeons even touch the maxilla or just move the mandible

The thing is with #2, if you have deep canine fossa, usually if you are at a low BF% it will resolve the problem.

Btw, your nasolabials look barely prominent in this picture, granted the quality is kinda shit.

It's zoomed in and lighting is bad, but depends on the lighting how prominent they look

Here you can clearly see them

 

[zemult]

Now I'm wondering if that's the case, would surgeons even touch the maxilla or just move the mandible

Well if you do end up getting lf1 it should project the paranasal area.