Can most sub5s ascend to normies?

[Timmy]

Tbh I think truecels are as common as psl chads (not tall gymmaxxed htns)

 

[Blonde]

whats the point ascending to normie tier, thats just good as incel

 

[Timmy]

whats the point ascending to normie tier, thats just good as incel

The difference is gigantic because sure you’ll be an incel but you’re be treated as a human

 

[Blonde]

The difference is gigantic because sure you’ll be an incel but you’re be treated as a human

id still feel like shit ngl, chad or death but yes you have a point

 

[PARISIEN]

Fucked up teeth, weird nose, weird hair, weird size.

Need at least 50k to a sub5

 

[Timmy]

id still feel like shit ngl, chad or death

You wouldn’t actually. Because imagine being trrated like shit daily and nobody ever respecting or caring for you to then be treated as a human. Dont put ur standards too high buddy boyo

 

[lepo2317]

If they have visible deformities like recessed jaw, asymmetrical face etc, then yes and yes, it's always worth to ascend from 3/10 to 5/10. 3/10 gets nothing while 5/10 gets some one in a lifetime chances with women.

 

[Timmy]

If they have visible deformities like recessed jaw, asymmetrical face etc, then yes and yes, it's always worth to ascend from 3/10 to 5/10. 3/10 gets nothing while 5/10 gets some one in a lifetime chances with women.

Thr girl I’m talking too likes (talking) me bc she mostly facetimes me when I’m at my most debloated and I hage a deep voice. Nothing rlly special abt me and she’d be rated as htb w coloring halo to stacy here, but idgaf what niggas would rate her she hot

 

[GreekGenes]

what would benefit sub5s more is to lower the looks-threshold for themselves by stopping all the simping that's going on on the internets inflating many women's standards.

Women are not to blame, men are, particularly those who subscribe to girls' onlyfans and patreon porn accounts. Same goes for guys who flood girls with compliments on their social media.

Currently, even mtns are invisible to women. So going from incel to mtn wont change much in terms of dating.

Although, since attractiveness is not simply social construct... women will still have a high looks-treshold for men, but a bit less brutal than atm

Fact is, no one below htn is considered attractive by women. It's the 15% of men that basically all scientific evidence points to who get laid. You either make the cut or you don't.

Basically, if ONE woman considers you PHYSICALLY attractive, most do. Because even the most desperate ugly, fat chick will consider the same men attractive who a female supermodel considers attractive.

 

[Timmy]

what would benefit sub5s more is to lower the looks-threshold for themselves by stopping all the simping that's going on on the internets inflating many women's standards.

Women are not to blame, men are, particularly those who subscribe to girls' onlyfans and patreon porn accounts. Same goes for guys who flood girls with compliments on their social media.

Currently, even mtns are invisible to women. So going from incel to mtn wont change much in terms of dating.

In terms of dating but life isnt only about dating but aspects in respect from others and being able to have more opportunities.

Normies and sub5s dont get shit from women. Sub5 well, they’re sub5s. Normies either also get no attention entire or played most times. All in terms of SMV

 

[GreekGenes]

In terms of dating but life isnt only about dating but aspects in respect from others and being able to have more opportunities.

Normies and sub5s dont get shit from women. Sub5 well, they’re sub5s. Normies either also get no attention entire or played most times. All in terms of SMV

yea,yea i was only rreferring to dating. And thats exactly my point, even mtns don't get any attention. It all starts at htn+, below that=invisible.

 

[Timmy]

yea,yea i was only rreferring to dating. And thats exactly my point, even mtns don't get any attention. It all starts at htn+, below that=invisible.

Brother I think we should just remove the htn mtn ltn chadlite labels and just focus on sub5, normie, chad. And not just make it all based off of face but SMV overall (height+frame+penis+face+voice+yes even smell to a small extent)

 

[Timmy]

yea,yea i was only rreferring to dating. And thats exactly my point, even mtns don't get any attention. It all starts at htn+, below that=invisible.

U literally see that people who have chad status irl are most of the time ‘htns’ who r tall and gymmaxxed

 

[Nick.Harte]

no

 

[Nick.Harte]

If you're a sub5, it's over

 

[GreekGenes]

Brother I think we should just remove the htn mtn ltn chadlite labels and just focus on sub5, normie, chad. And not just make it all based off of face but SMV overall (height+frame+penis+face+voice+yes even smell to a small extent)

dunno man. imho a 7/10 has a very noticeable advantage over a 5/10 so i would keep a category between normie and chad (8+/10)

unless you lower chad to basically include anything slightly above normie but then that diminishes the chad label.

 

[kalluss]

Yes unless you have some kind of deformation

 

[trueceI]

Probably unless caused by manletism, frameletism, bad pheno or severe neurodivergence or a combo of all them

 

[jestor]

I’m a fat nigga so once I lose weight its instant ascension to mtn IF I don’t have loose skin.

 

[MedMogger]

The difference is gigantic because sure you’ll be an incel but you’re be treated as a human

How are Sub5s treated? It surely isn’t that bad!