Can people fucking stop reducing the importance of looks to getting laid?

[Zyros]

I'm tired of seeing over and over and over again. Yes you can already fuck and have a sex life as a 4 PSL, and even if you are not a slayer you can have enough sex life to be content. But the differentece between a 4 PSL and a 6 PSL life is incredible.


"muh looksmaxxing is pointless by the time you end looksmaxxing you are at age when everyone marries and you missed on teen love and blah blah blah"

Women and hookup/relationships are a small part of the whole thing affected by physical appearance.


LOOKS = QUALITY OF LIFE
is it that hard to understand?

Even if somehow by some universal force you were assured to never be able to fuck a woman in your life, improving your looks would still be a HUGE boost for your life. Looksmaxxing pays off at ANY age, i'm willing to bet even until elderly tier ages. I went from under average looks to upper midrange of looks and heres what It changed in my life, not counting women related stuff:

-Perception of my intelligence: From people assuming I was slow to people thinking i'm gifted
-Perception of hobbies and talents: Mocked, ridiculed and associated to being comical before. Praised, looked upon in awe, regarded as cool things now.
-Perception of personality quirks absolutely and completely changed: Same quirks that made me a creep or weirdo, now I am deep and mysterious and endearing.
-Levels of respect when meeting new people: Before I started at absolute bottom levels, I thought that "gaining better treatment over the years" was the normal thing. Now I start at the top. Condescending tones and looks turned to "look up to" attitude.
-Better/more "close" treatment by service staff at places: they become familiar with me just by going 2 or 3 times to the same place in almost any timeframe.
-Ability to form and fit into social circles increased exponentially as the looks rating went up.
-Ability to fully be myself and express myself freely instead of feeling like i'm walking in minefields when talking to other people to not trigger the "please disrespect me" bomb.
-Difference between having to repeat something several times or talking in a loud tone to avoid being talked over or interrumpted, and everything I say being listened to at the first attempt.

Those are some (there are many more "little things" too). NONE are related at all to getting more or hotter girls, and they made my life look like something absolutely different. World and society now are warmer and more welcoming instead of cold and hostile by default. Sure you get a huge rush every time a woman mires you or approaches you, but other things are way more important. And these are things in life that matter at all ages, not only "teen developmental years". This also comes from an user who went fromt 3.5 to around 5-5.5ish PSL. I already got girls at 4 PS, but the change from 4.5 PSL to 5 in quality of life was HUGE. Most of the changes I listed there happened in that part.

EVERY POINT IN LOOKS = LIFECHANGING

Fucking hell even as an old man, your looks can mean the difference between being seen and treated as yet another senile old fart (even if you arent senile), to being seen and regarded as old wise man that radiates authority. Even at the doors of Death, looks still matter.

 

[Deleted member 8744]

Good thread

 

[Deleted member 6892]

Good thread

Being subhuman helps you in everything

 

[Deleted member 8744]

Normies will never understand. It’s ridiculous how they can even understand the most basic blackpilled shit, and when they do, they refuse to listen to itjfl

 

[balding17yomanletcel]

 

[eyearea]

 

[Timelessbrah]

BASED.

 

[Polka]

I went into looksmaxing to improve my life, not to slay or because if insecurity (although I basically got bdd now)
It absolutely affects all areas of your life and will help you in any job that is not some daytrading kind of deal.

Even if you work ALL ALONE and do not meet neither customer nor colleagues, the way you look can be to your detriment. Racial stereotypypes, looking bloated unhealthy, bad teeth, lots of failos can make you look dumb unhealthy, untrsutworthy.
The point is, people will assume lots about you and judge you.

This goes further than looks by the way.
Most people are incredbly shallow and judgemental and will judge you for all kinds of shallow bullshit.
The way you look is so glaringly obvious though that people can not see past it.

 

[Deleted member 5393]

U arent even psl4 u are a squinting framecel with the body of a 5 year old

 

[Zyros]

U arent even psl4 u are a squinting framecel with the body of a 5 year old

gotta love how you even edited this comment minutes afterwards to try and sound more insulting. pathetic.

 

[Danish_Retard]

gotta love how you even edited this comment minutes afterwards to try and sound more insulting. pathetic.

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(but I agree entirely with your post, went from 1 PSL to ~3,5 PSL and the difference in everything is very noticeable)

 

[Deleted member 4310]

Exactly, i'm only looksmaxing to make life as easy as possible. Your life is written in your face.

 

[CommanderCope]

ye that's what the blackpill is all about. Looks determine your life.

 

[Deleted member 4209]

if you have better looks you will also be a better person because you have no reason to hate anyone

 

[Clark69]

another banger from zyros
going from fat incel to above-average drastically changed my life overall too. was a black sheep in my family to being the favorite, invisible to being girl's crushes, female cashiers helping me buy shit when i was short of cash .etc
you should be completely motivated to looksmax hard, even if it's a quarter of a PSL point
3-4 PSL could be the difference of getting a job, family being generous/caring, a small ticket or jail. slaying takes an hour of your time, so improve the other 23 hrs much as possible

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Solid thread read every word.

 

[Golang]

How old were you when you ascended and how old are you rn?

 

[Zyros]

How old were you when you ascended and how old are you rn?

sry for such late reply but some react reminded me of this thread. I left incel status at around 21-23, stopped having negative halo at around 25, and ended my "journey" just recently. I'm 32.

 

[Zyros]

3-4 PSL could be the difference of getting a job, family being generous/caring, a small ticket or jail.

Exactly, forget slaying, or muh getting tinder dates or shit, looks heavily affect BASIC FUNDAMENTAL LIFE QUALITY aspects

 

[Naser Orić]

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Framemaxxing needed. One of the worst frames ive ever seen if its not shopped.

 

[oatmeal]

Framemaxxing needed. One of the worst frames ive ever seen if its not shopped.

it isn't.

but that just proves OP's point further no? that you should focus on ur face as well??? lol

 

[Zyros]

Framemaxxing needed. One of the worst frames ive ever seen if its not shopped.

No, for me it's leanmaxxing route. I would have to sacrifice facial leanness to get some frame and even then i would still look under average in that department, so, seeing I mog wide framed friends irl because of my lean face, even knowing frame is a HUGE plus, i picked the pure leanness path, of which I get the most "profit" compared to other looksmaxxing paths.

 

[Clark69]

No, for me it's leanmaxxing route. I would have to sacrifice facial leanness to get some frame and even then i would still look under average in that department, so, seeing I mog wide framed friends irl because of my lean face, even knowing frame is a HUGE plus, i picked the pure leanness path, of which I get the most "profit" compared to other looksmaxxing paths.

how many fasts have you done this year

 

[Zyros]

how many fasts have you done this year

I never fasted, as I read that fasting can "bounce back at you" stronger once you start eating again. I just swapped salty and sugary food intake for much less salty and sugary one (baiscally zero), aside from some cheats every now and then. Its a slower debloating journey but your body gets much more used to the "low bloat", and now for example cheat days don't affect me nearly as much as they did in the past.

 

[Deusmaximus]

„i dont looksmax to slay, i wanna get respected by people and have better career opportunities“ is just another cope, because the level of looks to slay is impossible to get for 90% on this forum. And even if its possible, guys will never get the amount of surgery that is needed.
Stop lying, deep down you just know that its a lot easier to look good enough for people giving you respect, than the level needed to fuck hot sluts. For a lot of guys on here its over. They will never have the money and willpower for a huge surgery transformation.
So keep leanmaxx and haircutmaxx and keep the skincare.
What most guys need is: bimax+genio+wraparound jaw and cheek implants+almond eye surgery+fat grafting
@op still i see your point. its legit

 

[RAITEIII]

I'm tired of seeing over and over and over again. Yes you can already fuck and have a sex life as a 4 PSL, and even if you are not a slayer you can have enough sex life to be content. But the differentece between a 4 PSL and a 6 PSL life is incredible.


"muh looksmaxxing is pointless by the time you end looksmaxxing you are at age when everyone marries and you missed on teen love and blah blah blah"
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Women and hookup/relationships are a small part of the whole thing affected by physical appearance.


LOOKS = QUALITY OF LIFE
is it that hard to understand?

Even if somehow by some universal force you were assured to never be able to fuck a woman in your life, improving your looks would still be a HUGE boost for your life. Looksmaxxing pays off at ANY age, i'm willing to bet even until elderly tier ages. I went from under average looks to upper midrange of looks and heres what It changed in my life, not counting women related stuff:

-Perception of my intelligence: From people assuming I was slow to people thinking i'm gifted
-Perception of hobbies and talents: Mocked, ridiculed and associated to being comical before. Praised, looked upon in awe, regarded as cool things now.
-Perception of personality quirks absolutely and completely changed: Same quirks that made me a creep or weirdo, now I am deep and mysterious and endearing.
-Levels of respect when meeting new people: Before I started at absolute bottom levels, I thought that "gaining better treatment over the years" was the normal thing. Now I start at the top. Condescending tones and looks turned to "look up to" attitude.
-Better/more "close" treatment by service staff at places: they become familiar with me just by going 2 or 3 times to the same place in almost any timeframe.
-Ability to form and fit into social circles increased exponentially as the looks rating went up.
-Ability to fully be myself and express myself freely instead of feeling like i'm walking in minefields when talking to other people to not trigger the "please disrespect me" bomb.
-Difference between having to repeat something several times or talking in a loud tone to avoid being talked over or interrumpted, and everything I say being listened to at the first attempt.

Those are some (there are many more "little things" too). NONE are related at all to getting more or hotter girls, and they made my life look like something absolutely different. World and society now are warmer and more welcoming instead of cold and hostile by default. Sure you get a huge rush every time a woman mires you or approaches you, but other things are way more important. And these are things in life that matter at all ages, not only "teen developmental years". This also comes from an user who went fromt 3.5 to around 5-5.5ish PSL. I already got girls at 4 PS, but the change from 4.5 PSL to 5 in quality of life was HUGE. Most of the changes I listed there happened in that part.

EVERY POINT IN LOOKS = LIFECHANGING

Fucking hell even as an old man, your looks can mean the difference between being seen and treated as yet another senile old fart (even if you arent senile), to being seen and regarded as old wise man that radiates authority. Even at the doors of Death, looks still matter.

Also the confidence. Dont forget about that confidence of loving yourself because u look in the mirror and you are gl....

 

[Naser Orić]

No, for me it's leanmaxxing route. I would have to sacrifice facial leanness to get some frame and even then i would still look under average in that department, so, seeing I mog wide framed friends irl because of my lean face, even knowing frame is a HUGE plus, i picked the pure leanness path, of which I get the most "profit" compared to other looksmaxxing paths.

How tall are u btw?

 

[Zyros]

How tall are u btw?

5,11

 

[Deleted member 275]

I remember chilling with you in discord when you were going out, showing photos of the booze you were drinking. Something dark and popular in Spain that was cheap and easy to get wasted on, idk.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

im still waiting for the news article "virgin 35 year old shoots up nightclub after decade of rejection - zyros, a 35 year old virgin with shoulder length hair and a gaunt appearancee was often seen lurking at nightclubs under the lights, members of the community often saw zyros and wondered where his mates were, and why he always looked so angry..authorities had been noted of zyros on numerous occations but he was deemed unthreatening due to his slender build and poor height

 

[TsarTsar444]

im still waiting for the news article "virgin 35 year old shoots up nightclub after decade of rejection - zyros, a 35 year old virgin with shoulder length hair and a gaunt appearancee was often seen lurking at nightclubs under the lights, members of the community often saw zyros and wondered where his mates were, and why he always looked so angry..authorities had been noted of zyros on numerous occations but he was deemed unthreatening due to his slender build and poor height

jfl i always imagined him like that, a schizo framecel manlet who is larping his schizo thoughts on this forum

 

[Naser Orić]

5,11

Not bad. About ur earlier comment, you can improve your frame without increasing your bodyfat percentage? Hitting the gym on a lean bulk would increase your SMV plenty (I know you can't increase collar bones lol, but 40 pounds of extra muscle mass would help plenty). Like the other guy said, you almost got a child like frame. It's the only flaw you have, as your height is fine and face is Chadlite tier (maybe even Chad tier, but hard to tell as ur hairstyle and frame are huge failos).

 

[Deleted member 275]

Not bad. About ur earlier comment, you can improve your frame without increasing your bodyfat percentage? Hitting the gym on a lean bulk would increase your SMV plenty (I know you can't increase collar bones lol, but 40 pounds of extra muscle mass would help plenty). Like the other guy said, you almost got a child like frame. It's the only flaw you have, as your height is fine and face is Chadlite tier (maybe even Chad tier, but hard to tell as ur hairstyle and frame are huge failos).

Shoulder padded clothing tbh