Can someone explain to me why Asians don't have hollow cheeks when lean?

[Deleted member 15004]

This isn't race-bait actually but I have noticed that Asians even at like 10% or less body fat have fat faces that aren't defined and "sharp", with nothing like hollow cheeks etc

@thecel you just said genetics but what do you mean, what exactly leads to this? What's the evolutionary reason for this?

 

[beau]

zygos 404

 

[sibience]

Either recessed jaw or jaw with not enough bone and same with maxilla/zygos. This is much worsened by genetic storage of more buccal fat and other fat pads on the face that goes away slower with age which is why Asians can look younger in 30s. I will have kind of hollow cheeks when I get buccal fat removal and wait 10 years for other fat pads to naturally decline some.

 

[StrangerDanger]

 

[Deleted member 15004]

Either recessed jaw or jaw with not enough bone and same with maxilla/zygos. This is much worsened by genetic storage of more buccal fat and other fat pads on the face that goes away slower with age which is why Asians can look younger in 30s. I will have kind of hollow cheeks when I get buccal fat removal and wait 10 years for other fat pads to naturally decline some.

I mean are you suggesting that like the overwhelming majority of Asians have recessed jaws??

Asians do tend to have lots of "fat pads" which make them look more youthful than other communities, especially the women but like once your lean, you're telling me they actually stay??

Also mirin good idea I also read on here and other places that tretinoin burns facial fat too so that may interest you

 

[Gonthar]

Why don't you go in a place with many lean Asians, like a prison and just ask them: "How come, even if you starving, still not have hollow cheeks?".

 

[sibience]

I mean are you suggesting that like the overwhelming majority of Asians have recessed jaws??

Asians do tend to have lots of "fat pads" which make them look more youthful than other communities, especially the women but like once your lean, you're telling me they actually stay??

Also mirin good idea I also read on here and other places that tretinoin burns facial fat too so that may interest you

The chin of most asians do not protrude at or past their lips and don't have wide jaws and chin as well. That is why I need implant for my chin to reduce the amount of perceived fat in my jowl area.

I personally don't think that tretinoin burns fat. It has been proven that it increases skin elasticity and that causes skin to tighten and that will then make the skin look more defined and contoured around bones like cheekbone and jaw... which in theory gives the illusion of lower fat on face.

Getting lean will only decrease subcutaneous fat. Fat pads will stay regardless, the only thing you can do is surgery to remove or wait until your body naturally ages (different for races in general and depends on genetics) or you can take meth (shit retarded idea don't do that).

Source: "Unfortunately, the hereditary condition of excess fat in the lower cheeks, which is called buccal fat pads, cannot be reduced by exercise or diet" - https://elaplasticsurgery.com/services/buccal-fat-pad-removal/ (yeah it is a site for plastic surgery but still I know this for fact you can search on any scholarly article if you have the time to do the research like I have in the past.

 

[Deleted member 15004]

The chin of most asians do not protrude at or past their lips and don't have wide jaws and chin as well. That is why I need implant for my chin to reduce the amount of perceived fat in my jowl area.

I personally don't think that tretinoin burns fat. It has been proven that it increases skin elasticity and that causes skin to tighten and that will then make the skin look more defined and contoured around bones like cheekbone and jaw... which in theory gives the illusion of lower fat on face.

Getting lean will only decrease subcutaneous fat. Fat pads will stay regardless, the only thing you can do is surgery to remove or wait until your body naturally ages (different for races in general and depends on genetics) or you can take meth (shit retarded idea don't do that).

Source: "Unfortunately, the hereditary condition of excess fat in the lower cheeks, which is called buccal fat pads, cannot be reduced by exercise or diet" - https://elaplasticsurgery.com/services/buccal-fat-pad-removal/ (yeah it is a site for plastic surgery but still I know this for fact you can search on any scholarly article if you have the time to do the research like I have in the past.

I read somewhere else, can't be bothered to find a source now, that Asians have wider faces that Euros and other races of people, why would they have recessed jaws if that were to be the case? Seems like you have your goals and plans well thought out, mirin.

Hm interesting. I've read quite a few stuff suggesting it permanently does burn it off so idk

Drugmaxx for hollow cheeks indeed

Yeah I believe you tbh buccal fat seems to be the kind of fat that is hard to get rid of which is corroborated by the fact that people confirm that face fat is the hardest to lose

 

[Deleted member 15004]

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[Erik-Jón]

This isn't race-bait actually but I have noticed that Asians even at like 10% or less body fat have fat faces that aren't defined and "sharp", with nothing like hollow cheeks etc
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@thecel you just said genetics but what do you mean, what exactly leads to this? What's the evolutionary reason for this?

Bones

 

[Central Cee]

Cause flat maxilla. That simple

 

[Deleted member 2403]

The chin of most asians do not protrude at or past their lips and don't have wide jaws and chin as well. That is why I need implant for my chin to reduce the amount of perceived fat in my jowl area.

I personally don't think that tretinoin burns fat. It has been proven that it increases skin elasticity and that causes skin to tighten and that will then make the skin look more defined and contoured around bones like cheekbone and jaw... which in theory gives the illusion of lower fat on face.

Getting lean will only decrease subcutaneous fat. Fat pads will stay regardless, the only thing you can do is surgery to remove or wait until your body naturally ages (different for races in general and depends on genetics) or you can take meth (shit retarded idea don't do that).

Source: "Unfortunately, the hereditary condition of excess fat in the lower cheeks, which is called buccal fat pads, cannot be reduced by exercise or diet" - https://elaplasticsurgery.com/services/buccal-fat-pad-removal/ (yeah it is a site for plastic surgery but still I know this for fact you can search on any scholarly article if you have the time to do the research like I have in the past.

thats mainly in SEA ppl who have prognathism most east asians have normal chins that protrude at/past their lips

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Recessed lower maxilla = no valley for the soft tissue to fall in so it just sags.

 

[Deleted member 15004]

Cause flat maxilla. That simple

Explain

 

[Deleted member 15854]

maybe if their lower third had more bone/was wider? idk

 

[wholesome]

you havent seen all asians

 

[Chinacurry]

Cos most don't have forward growth

 

[Deleted member 22063]

you need angular mandible and longer ramus to have hollow cheeks + good zygos

 

[prank.em.shinji2015]

This isn't race-bait actually but I have noticed that Asians even at like 10% or less body fat have fat faces that aren't defined and "sharp", with nothing like hollow cheeks etc
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@thecel you just said genetics but what do you mean, what exactly leads to this? What's the evolutionary reason for this?

People of Asian countries tend to have soft weak diets of mainly rice and noodles. They don't chew stuff like meat or chicken often which needless to say, is much more chewy and requires the jaw to do more work and engage the masseter muscles more.

 

[ElBastardo]

Asians with a Mongoloid skull have inward gonians, while Caucasoid skulls have outward gonians. The outward gonians are necessary for the jaw to stretch the skin for the cheekbones to appear. With inward gonians, when you look directly face on, you are unable to see the full width of the jaw from the front, because the jaw bends inwards towards the back. Hence it is the bone structure, and even if you are lean, with this type of bone structure you're not going to get good cheekbones/hollow cheeks. See video at 1:45 for the difference between Mongoloid, Caucasoid, and Negroid skull shapes.